Game Thread: Toronto Argonauts @ Edmonton Elks

**Will** · 06-20-2023, 08:29 AM

A trap game if there ever was one.

**gilthethrill** · 06-20-2023, 09:04 AM

Trap game….na….Argos roll over Edmonton.

**Retrogorilla 2** · 06-20-2023, 09:46 AM

The Esks (I will call them that) offence is braindead. I can't see them putting up enough points to beat anybody.

**Stevoman** · 06-20-2023, 10:29 AM

Trap game for sure. But week one could've been a game where they weren't as focused either (bye week, ring ceremony, banner, etc.) and yet they seemed very prepared and poised throughout.

**Scooter McCray** · 06-20-2023, 10:54 AM

Way too early for a trap game. Argos second game and first away game. The Elks are a team the Argos should never lose to. And they almost did last year, but that was much later in the season. The Argos are just coming together as a team playing real games now. Everything is fresh, and I think they have a clear understanding of what they are and what can be accomplished together. I am expecting nothing less than a professional, down to business road trip to dismantle a clearly weaker team.

**"Issues"Mcgee** · 06-20-2023, 01:34 PM

I feel terrible for Edmonton and the fans. They have had to put up with so much BS in the past few years. I found myself audibly cheering for them in week 1. I want to see them get that elusive home win and get back to being a competitive team...

But all that goes out the window this week. I hope the Argos slaughter them. No mercy.

**paulwoods13** · 06-20-2023, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by Scooter McCray

Way too early for a trap game.

I wish I could agree, but any time one team is clearly more talented and better-coached, and the other team is desperate for a win and/or looking to break a long winless streak, it spells trap. I believe Argos can and will win, but I don't see this as anything close to a sure thing.

**bluto** · 06-20-2023, 03:37 PM

Total trap game.

The thought of being the team that loses there makes my blood run cold. Lose the game that we're practically nailed-on to win? It'd be typical Argos if we did.

Still think the boys will do the business and have a 10 margin of victory... but my inner pessimist won't let me alone.

**ArgoRavi** · 06-21-2023, 11:05 AM

I wasn't crazy to see an Argos road game in Edmonton this early when I first saw the schedule. Edmonton has lost 18 straight home games so they're definitely overdue and teams often bounce back after dreadful performances like the one the Elks put in last week. For example, the Argos were shutout in Edmonton in 2019 and came back and won their next game at home against the powerful Bombers (after falling behind 17-0) so anything is possible. The game at the end of last year in Edmonton was also too close for comfort.

**AngeloV** · 06-21-2023, 12:28 PM

There is no such thing as a trap game.

**Will** · 06-21-2023, 11:09 PM

The Argos are something like 14-27 at Commonwealth since it opened in the late 70's, and of those wins the biggest margin was like 13 points or something.

Heck, even Flutie's '97 team barely eeked out a win.

**ArgoRavi** · 06-22-2023, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Will

The Argos are something like 14-27 at Commonwealth since it opened in the late 70's, and of those wins the biggest margin was like 13 points or something.

Heck, even Flutie's '97 team barely eeked out a win.

Edmonton had a pretty good team in 1997 and should have been the West representative in the Grey Cup at Commonwealth. That probably would have been another classic game too. I still don't know how Saskatchewan upset Edmonton that year in the West Final.

**Scooter McCray** · 06-22-2023, 02:11 PM

Its a trap.
Not really. Argos will exceed their 13 point all time margin of victory at Commonwealth. This is not the 1978 Eskimos.

**"Issues"Mcgee** · 06-22-2023, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Scooter McCray

Its a trap.
Not really. Argos will exceed their 13 point all time margin of victory at Commonwealth. This is not the 1978 Eskimos.

It's a trap!!!

**Retrogorilla 2** · 06-23-2023, 01:06 PM

I really can't see us losing to Edmonton. It might be closer than we'd like but I'm far more worried about the Lions game...they look legit this year.

**paulwoods13** · 06-24-2023, 11:07 AM

Oakman, Gittens, Leake and Stiggers are out, Ciraco is a game-time decision. If the latter can't go, I assume Nicastro will slide over to centre and MacKellar will play RG, perhaps with Noll coming off PR to back up.

Oakman, Gittens and Leake are on the one-game, Stiggers is on practice roster. Peters, Hendrix, Acheampong and Byrd are in.

The depth chart shows Ungerer and Brissett both starting at receiver, and both listed as designated National. Daniels is listed as backing up Byrd and as designated American. Presumably he will replace any of Byrd, Ungerer or Brissett and play most if not all snaps. By listing him as DA, both he and Byrd can be on the field for up to 23 plays. I doubt Ungerer will take many offensive snaps, but we'll see.

No indication who the primary kick returner(s) will be. Presumably Pickett will be one of the two on KOs, likely with Brissett, I would think. Who knows on punts. Maybe Byrd is capable of returning although that's a lot of pressure to put on a guy in his first game, on the road. I just hope we don't dial up another idiotic pass-across-the-field play like we did last year in Edmonton, with Haydel as the thrower.