Game Thread: Toronto Argonauts @ Winnipeg Blue Bombers

**Will** · 09-25-2023, 10:55 PM

I don't care if this game is meaningless for the Argos, but I want to shut up the Blue Bomber attendance police.

**AngeloV** · 09-25-2023, 11:01 PM

Hate to say it, but I think the Bombers will take this one. Full house and way more important to them.

**paulwoods13** · 09-26-2023, 09:08 AM

And some reports suggest Kelly will sit. If that's the case, I'd like to see Scott get the start over Dukes.

**Mocha** · 09-26-2023, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by paulwoods13

And some reports suggest Kelly will sit. If that's the case, I'd like to see Scott get the start over Dukes.

Why Scott?

Just curious, as I haven't really seen enough of the two to have much of an opinion.

**"Issues"Mcgee** · 09-26-2023, 11:27 AM

A clash of the titans in front of a sold out crowd and the Argos sit Kelly. It's definitely the responsible move, but a little unfortunate for this particular game.

**AngeloV** · 09-26-2023, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mocha

Why Scott?

Just curious, as I haven't really seen enough of the two to have much of an opinion.

I thought Scott looked better in TC, but it's such a small sample size. the fact that he was going to be the one to come in last week had Hamilton not scored, tells me that the Argos are curious to see him too.

**Scooter McCray** · 09-26-2023, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by "Issues"Mcgee

A clash of the titans in front of a sold out crowd and the Argos sit Kelly. It's definitely the responsible move, but a little unfortunate for this particular game.

More than unfortunate. Sold out game for weeks. This is the game CFL fans and football fans have had circled for months on their calendar. This game could easily be the most watched regular season game of the year. Alot of casual Toronto fans could be watching back home. Similar to the late season Argo Bomber game in 1983 when Terry Greer went off for over 200 yards receiving in Winnipeg. Dinwiddie has the final 2 Ottawa games to sit his team. This game and the 150th game are not the ones. A game like this is why there are fans of the sport. He should start and play at least a half.

**paulwoods13** · 09-26-2023, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Mocha

Why Scott?

Just curious, as I haven't really seen enough of the two to have much of an opinion.

I think he's a better prospect than Dukes, but that's pure conjecture. Obviously we will find out more about both guys over the next few wks.

I will say that whomever plays this week should not be judged solely on it. No QB, especially a new one, can be fairly evaluated in a game preceded by a single practice.

**paulwoods13** · 09-26-2023, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Scooter McCray

More than unfortunate. Sold out game for weeks. This is the game CFL fans and football fans have had circled for months on their calendar. This game could easily be the most watched regular season game of the year. Alot of casual Toronto fans could be watching back home. Similar to the late season Argo Bomber game in 1983 when Terry Greer went off for over 200 yards receiving in Winnipeg. Dinwiddie has the final 2 Ottawa games to sit his team. This game and the 150th game are not the ones. A game like this is why there are fans of the sport. He should start and play at least a half.

Not to argue, but Greer's three 200-yard games in 1983 were earlier, against other teams. Argos played in Wpg quite early that season. Greer did go past 2,000 yards in the season finale against Wpg at home, but that game was blacked out in Toronto.

**Scooter McCray** · 09-26-2023, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by paulwoods13

Not to argue, but Greer's three 200-yard games in 1983 were earlier, against other teams. Argos played in Wpg quite early that season. Greer did go past 2,000 yards in the season finale against Wpg at home, but that game was blacked out in Toronto.

Was it 1982? Did they play late in Winnipeg that season? I remember watching on TV, it was cold.

**Scooter McCray** · 09-26-2023, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by Scooter McCray

Was it 1982? Did they play late in Winnipeg that season? I remember watching on TV, it was cold.

October 11, 1982 Winnipeg 39 Argos 35 in Winnipeg. I'm trying to find stats.

**Will** · 09-26-2023, 01:29 PM

**Will** · 09-26-2023, 01:31 PM

**Will** · 09-26-2023, 01:32 PM

Stats courtesy of the Regina Leader-Post and Winnipeg Sun respectively. These two publications are the ones I go to for game stats from the 1980's as I find they are the most complete. The other newspapers sometimes omit individual stats (except for the top two) for each team. Once you get to 1989 or 1990 or so I find that any publication is good.

**Scooter McCray** · 09-26-2023, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Scooter McCray

Was it 1982? Did they play late in Winnipeg that season? I remember watching on TV, it was cold.

October 11, 1982 Winnipeg 39 Argos 35 in Winnipeg. I'm trying to find stats. Thanksgiving game. 6 degrees celsius

**Scooter McCray** · 09-26-2023, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Will

Stats courtesy of the Regina Leader-Post and Winnipeg Sun respectively. These two publications are the ones I go to for game stats from the 1980's as I find they are the most complete. The other newspapers sometimes omit individual stats (except for the top two) for each team. Once you get to 1989 or 1990 or so I find that any publication is good.

Thanks Will. Greer had 206 yards on 15 receptions. I was 15 years old coming back from my grandparents in Niagara. Caught last quarter on CBC. Listened in the car. It was 6 Celsius in Winnipeg on October 11. I remember it was a big game for both teams.

**paulwoods13** · 09-26-2023, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Scooter McCray

Was it 1982? Did they play late in Winnipeg that season? I remember watching on TV, it was cold.

Yes, and thanks to Will for those stats. I was at that game. Argos were getting killed and then staged a magnificent rally in the fourth quarter, almost pulling off an amazing comeback. They tried an onside quick kick in a final desperate bid to regain possession, and it nearly worked. I felt like the only Argo fan in a crowd of 30,000 people razzing me, until Holloway and Greer led the remarkable comeback. The building got very quiet when Greer threw a TD pass to Scott McGhee on an option play.

In addition to being at the game, I was later able to obtain a copy of the broadcast. I'll never forget Leo Cahill's words in the booth when Greer passed to McGhee. "Oh my aching back! Do you believe that?" That fourth quarter might have been the greatest display of Mouse's Run and Shoot. Sadly, the videotape got stolen in 1986 and I have never been able to find another copy.

**paulwoods13** · 09-26-2023, 01:51 PM

Back to the game, it's been reported that Dukes is getting No. 1 reps at today's "walk-through." The only full practice this week is tomorrow.

**Scooter McCray** · 09-26-2023, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by paulwoods13

Yes, and thanks to Will for those stats. I was at that game. Argos were getting killed and then staged a magnificent rally in the fourth quarter, almost pulling off an amazing comeback. They tried an onside quick kick in a final desperate bid to regain possession, and it nearly worked. I felt like the only Argo fan in a crowd of 30,000 people razzing me, until Holloway and Greer led the remarkable comeback. The building got very quiet when Greer threw a TD pass to Scott McGhee on an option play.

In addition to being at the game, I was later able to obtain a copy of the broadcast. I'll never forget Leo Cahill's words in the booth when Greer passed to McGhee. "Oh my aching back! Do you believe that?" That fourth quarter might have been the greatest display of Mouse's Run and Shoot. Sadly, the videotape got stolen in 1986 and I have never been able to find another copy.

You may be able to get a copy from CBC. In 1995 my father was terminally ill. He played for Hamilton and Ottawa in late 1950s. I wrote to CBC to get copies of classic Grey Cup games for us to watch together. Can't remember all of them but they sent them to me free of charge. They sent them to me on VHS, but I'm hoping they have digitized all of their old broadcasts.