Surely all of this can be contained within a single thread? (Such as the one that has existed since the allegations first surfaced.)
Surely all of this can be contained within a single thread? (Such as the one that has existed since the allegations first surfaced.)
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Be prepared to go with Dukes and Scott and maybe make inquiries into Nathan Rourke's availability (not that I expect anything much to come of that). I can't see a veteran QB that is available that would be an upgrade on Dukes at least. Dukes seems capable of winning games in Kelly's absence (permanent or temporary, who knows?).
Cameron Dukes + Dan Adeboboye + Kevin Mital + David Ungerer + Damonte Coxie + DaVaris Daniels + Dejon Brissett = Unstoppable Force
Am I shocked? No, given Kelly's well-documented immaturity, which I had hoped he had gotten over last year.
Obviously, the investigation found that he did something serious in the workplace, although we don't know the exact transgression(s). Can Kelly learn from this, grow up and have a solid career in this league? Will the Argos give him that opportunity? Time will tell on all of that.
I will add that I feel badly for the complainant, who has been vindicated at least to some degree here, and was a valuable member of the "Argo family" for the past 5 years. I hope that she can have success in her future endeavours.
Cameron Dukes + Dan Adeboboye + Kevin Mital + David Ungerer + Damonte Coxie + DaVaris Daniels + Dejon Brissett = Unstoppable Force
Extremely doubtful, IMO.
I sincerely hope not. It's time to cut ties with him, write off the $300k bonus he received and re-establish the kind of culture that Pinball touted when he became GM. If that means taking some lumps on the field this year, so be it.
Year of the Rocket: John Candy, Wayne Gretzky, a Crooked Tycoon, and the Craziest Season in Football History (https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/pro...of-the-rocket/)
Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)
YOTR YouTube https://bit.ly/37jtG4f
BB YouTube https://bit.ly/2TSYPs7
If Kelly did what the plaintiff is alleging, then I am all for a suitable punishment.
What happens if the allegations are proven false in court?
It’s pretty safe to assume now that one or more persons inside the organization corroborated the complainant’s claims. Bad for the Argos in the short term, but good for the honour and integrity of this team going forward. We should all be proud of this/these unnamed hero/heroes.
Well Kelly doesn't seem to learn from his mistakes as his past behaviour proves. The man is almost 30 years old and obviously very immature. I think he will just continue to be a headache for Argos if he stays and they don't need that. As an Argo fan, I would like to see the organization distance themselves from him as I don't want him as the face of the Argos and don't think he represents the team in a positive way.
It’s entirely possible he never got the mental health supports he’s needed his whole life. I think he is deserving of some sympathy along with the complainant. Mental health issues can devastate lives. We should all be hoping he gets the help he needs to become a better person.
I do hope he gets the health he obviously needs, I just don't think he should be a member of the Argos as he does so.
The investigation evidently found something that prompted the suspension. The report is apparently 87 pages long, and, we'll never see it, but I would assume Argos and Kelly get a copy.
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Speaking only for myself, I want no part of this guy on the field or even around the team. Redemption stories are a nice concept in theory, and sometimes they actually happen. But I have no faith in Kelly redeeming himself and becoming a genuinely changed person. I cannot envisage myself in the stands cheering with him at the controls. Maybe time will soften my attitude, but I doubt it.
Year of the Rocket: John Candy, Wayne Gretzky, a Crooked Tycoon, and the Craziest Season in Football History (https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/pro...of-the-rocket/)
Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)
YOTR YouTube https://bit.ly/37jtG4f
BB YouTube https://bit.ly/2TSYPs7
Year of the Rocket: John Candy, Wayne Gretzky, a Crooked Tycoon, and the Craziest Season in Football History (https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/pro...of-the-rocket/)
Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)
YOTR YouTube https://bit.ly/37jtG4f
BB YouTube https://bit.ly/2TSYPs7
I'm only asking because Shawn Oakman lost his NFL opportunity on allegations that were proven false in court.
I would like to see some evidence.
I feel exactly the same way. I have been a life long Argos fan and I have loved the way that the powers that be have built the organization over the decades and the positive influence they have on the community. I watched TSN at 6 p.m. and Dave Naylor said that the CFL hired an outside expert and gave him all the time he needed. They said there is unequivocal evidence that Kelly violated the league's gender-based violence policy. That is serious and needs to be taken seriously and I think that means the Argos cutting ties with Kelly.
For me personally, I think Kelly's ego, his sense of entitlement, and lack of emotional maturity will not allow him to go through the necessary steps & level of contrition required to be reinstated. With his behaviour I think he has forfeited his right to be part of this great organization.
Last edited by kellynjk; 05-07-2024 at 08:06 PM.
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