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    Employee Alleged Harassment Case - Chad Kelly

    https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/rick-westhead...suit-1.2079719

    If this article is even half true, I expect the CFL to come down on both the Franchise and Kelly.

    Not the kind of publicity this team needs at this juncture.

    I thought (perhaps wrong) that Chad Kelly was in a relationship and referenced his Toronto based partner when signing his contract and charitable work in the community.

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    Disappointing; don't want/like to hear this.

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    Not much to add to what OV wrote.
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    Innocent until proven guilty; I wish the media would remember that when publishing these early claim reports. Two sides to every story and unfortunately it will be days/months before the claims are proven or disproven in court and in the meantime, the damage to the organization and Kelly is done.

    IF the allegations are true I do hope that the team and Kelly are handed the appropriate disciplinary action but they both have the right to have their say in court first.

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    I really hope her account of the story isn't true. Unfortunately his past will be doing him any favours here.
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    Not the first time the team has had wrongful dismissal lawsuits with female trainers. IIRC something similar happened when Barker took over
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    According to Westhead's article this all came to a head in the days leading up to the Eastern Final. The accusations and her account of his behavior and team response are not flattering. This may have something to do with Kelly's poor performance on that day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scooter McCray View Post
    According to Westhead's article this all came to a head in the days leading up to the Eastern Final. The accusations and her account of his behavior and team response are not flattering. This may have something to do with Kelly's poor performance on that day.
    I have certainly had that thought also. Things, allegedly, came to a head that week including on the very day of the game.
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    The whole concussion excuse which took everyone by surprise may have been a red herring on his part. I sure hope none of this is true.
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    Total BS that the media can name the accused but not the accuser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluto View Post
    Total BS that the media can name the accused but not the accuser.
    That is incorrect, The statement of claim was filed in court, and is a matter of public record. The org that originated the news report, TSN, has chosen as a matter of policy not to identify the accuser without her consent. Most reputable news orgs follow similar policies.

    As stated in Westhead's story: "TSN does not publish the names of alleged victims of abuse and harassment without their permission."
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    it’s depends on their policy, TSN said as much in their story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluto View Post
    Total BS that the media can name the accused but not the accuser.
    it depends on their internal policy. TSN said as much in their story.

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    Well innocent until proven guilty, but with Kelly's past I'm not holding out hope. This is what really makes me mad.

    "The coach alleges that the Argos condoned Kelly's harassment and a toxic work environment and that the team breached the CFL violence against women policy by not submitting a critical incident report to the league's head office."

    I thought an organization led by Pinball would be more accountable. It alleges multiple Argo staff were aware or witnessed the incidents.

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    Unless these allegations can somehow be proven to be completely false from top to bottom, and quickly, I see no way Kelly plays for the Argos this year. And there's a very good chance other heads will roll as well. This type of stuff simply can't be swept under the carpet, and the statement of claim suggests that's precisely what was attempted. Good luck to the Argos and MLSE. This is one of the ugliest situations this league has ever seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Unless these allegations can somehow be proven to be completely false from top to bottom, and quickly, I see no way Kelly plays for the Argos this year. And there's a very good chance other heads will roll as well. This type of stuff simply can't be swept under the carpet, and the statement of claim suggests that's precisely what was attempted. Good luck to the Argos and MLSE. This is one of the ugliest situations this league has ever seen.
    I have had concerns about Kelly's maturity but had really hoped that he turned a corner over the past year. We shall see how this process unfolds but it's an ugly day for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    I have had concerns about Kelly's maturity but had really hoped that he turned a corner over the past year. We shall see how this process unfolds but it's an ugly day for sure.
    I have had similar concerns about Kelly's maturity and hope this is not another example of Kelly's self-destructive behaviour that has been part of his past (remember that TSN feature with Kelly and his uncle and they talked about some of the misguided things he had done during his time in the NFL). Plus I thought that whole suggestion he had a concussion in the Eastern Final was bullshit and I said so on this site when it happened.

    It also reflects very poorly on the Argos, if the details in the article are true. Management at the very least should have investigated the allegations and talked to all the parties involved etc. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how things play out.

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    That's my point Paul. It's a choice to identify a presumed innocent accused, and not an accuser.

    I say this because we know her representatives are using the media pressure to go after what is now a very public dollar figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluto View Post
    That's my point Paul. It's a choice to identify a presumed innocent accused, and not an accuser.

    I say this because we know her representatives are using the media pressure to go after what is now a very public dollar figure.
    The dollar figure is a pittance, and dollar claims in any lawsuit are of zero consequence. How would reporting her name make things better?
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    Because it's a free hit this way. The media is doing the bidding of her legal team here.

    We know Kelly And we know his past. Judgements are being made.

    Only fair that we know his accuser.
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