Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 20 of 394

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Don
    Points: 133,853, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.9%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveCreated Album picturesVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Will's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Thornhill
    Posts
    10,071
    Points
    133,853
    Level
    100
    The question I have after reading Naylor's article is that the plaintiff had been employed by the team on a series of 1-year contracts since prior to the pandemic. Why were here skills, all of a sudden, not good enough? There are plenty of possible answers here, but I don't quite buy that explanation fully given the timing.
    TORONTO ARGONAUTS FOOTBALL CLUB
    GREY CUP CHAMPIONS: 1914, 1921, 1933, 1937, 1938, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1950, 1952, 1983, 1991, 1996, 1997, 2004, 2012, 2017, 2022



  2. #2
    Bleeds Double Blue
    Points: 39,936, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    VeteranOverdrive25000 Experience Points
    AngeloV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Thornhill
    Posts
    11,859
    Points
    39,936
    Level
    100
    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    The question I have after reading Naylor's article is that the plaintiff had been employed by the team on a series of 1-year contracts since prior to the pandemic. Why were here skills, all of a sudden, not good enough? There are plenty of possible answers here, but I don't quite buy that explanation fully given the timing.
    It is possible that some players didn't believe she was good at her job. With the player turnover year after year, there may be new voices that get heard.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

  3. #3
    Bleeds Double Blue
    Points: 53,879, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.7%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Section 124, Row 19
    Posts
    8,828
    Points
    53,879
    Level
    100
    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    The question I have after reading Naylor's article is that the plaintiff had been employed by the team on a series of 1-year contracts since prior to the pandemic. Why were here skills, all of a sudden, not good enough? There are plenty of possible answers here, but I don't quite buy that explanation fully given the timing.
    I have no idea what happened in this particular case. But an employee, either contract or permanent, being deemed inadequate after previously being deemed adequate is not unusual in any workplace IMO. Circumstances change, operational needs change, and individuals change.
    Year of the Rocket: John Candy, Wayne Gretzky, a Crooked Tycoon, and the Craziest Season in Football History (https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/pro...of-the-rocket/)

    Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)

    YOTR YouTube https://bit.ly/37jtG4f
    BB YouTube https://bit.ly/2TSYPs7

  4. #4
    Bleeds Double Blue
    Points: 39,936, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 99.8%
    Achievements:
    VeteranOverdrive25000 Experience Points
    AngeloV's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2011
    Location
    Thornhill
    Posts
    11,859
    Points
    39,936
    Level
    100
    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I have no idea what happened in this particular case. But an employee, either contract or permanent, being deemed inadequate after previously being deemed adequate is not unusual in any workplace IMO. Circumstances change, operational needs change, and individuals change.
    Perhaps they decided they wanted to expand the role, and she needed to improve at certain aspects to match the new requirements. Like you, I have no idea but, I can't see the head therapist lying about this. I am just not willing to accept the charges against Kelly and the Argos at this point.
    It's us vs the rest of the country

  5. #5
    Bleeds Double Blue
    Points: 31,851, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 88.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran25000 Experience Points
    Argo57's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Posts
    7,159
    Points
    31,851
    Level
    100
    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Perhaps they decided they wanted to expand the role, and she needed to improve at certain aspects to match the new requirements. Like you, I have no idea but, I can't see the head therapist lying about this. I am just not willing to accept the charges against Kelly and the Argos at this point.
    One would also assume her immediate supervisor has documented any performance review and filed it with HR which would validate where and when this particular conversation took place.
    Toronto Argonauts
    18 Time World Champions

  6. #6
    Boatman
    Points: 1,942, Level: 26
    Level completed: 43%, Points required for next Level: 58
    Overall activity: 99.4%
    Achievements:
    1 year registered1000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Jul 2022
    Posts
    291
    Points
    1,942
    Level
    26
    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I have no idea what happened in this particular case. But an employee, either contract or permanent, being deemed inadequate after previously being deemed adequate is not unusual in any workplace IMO. Circumstances change, operational needs change, and individuals change.
    Yeah I totally agree with this, especially as she was a "strength and conditioning coach" and maybe the needs and requirements of some team members was also changing over time. Almost any profession you can think of (doctors, teachers etc) requires that their members do "quality assurance training" every few years to ensure that they are up to date on current practices etc. And one would think that this would be even more important for someone who has a job dealing with athletes who may be coming off of injuries etc. I think AngeloV is right, that alot will depend on if there are witnesses to some of these conversations and/or encounters.

    Also if the Argos were going to go the route of mediation, wouldn't they have done it by now? Or could it be that they have suggested this route, but the plaintiff hasn't been open to it?

  7. #7
    Bleeds Double Blue
    Points: 9,699, Level: 66
    Level completed: 13%, Points required for next Level: 351
    Overall activity: 79.0%
    Achievements:
    Veteran5000 Experience Points

    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Posts
    675
    Points
    9,699
    Level
    66
    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I have no idea what happened in this particular case. But an employee, either contract or permanent, being deemed inadequate after previously being deemed adequate is not unusual in any workplace IMO. Circumstances change, operational needs change, and individuals change.
    Agreed. That's kind of the whole idea behind one-year contracts.

  8. #8
    Bleeds Double Blue
    Points: 151,221, Level: 100
    Level completed: 0%, Points required for next Level: 0
    Overall activity: 12.0%
    Achievements:
    OverdriveVeteran50000 Experience Points
    Awards:
    Posting Award

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    13,975
    Points
    151,221
    Level
    100
    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I have no idea what happened in this particular case. But an employee, either contract or permanent, being deemed inadequate after previously being deemed adequate is not unusual in any workplace IMO. Circumstances change, operational needs change, and individuals change.
    I don't know what happened in this case either. However, statistics show far more people get fired over personality or other personal conflicts than over whether they are competent or not. My wife worked in healthcare for fifteen years in one firm repeatedly winning employee-of-the-week awards, employee-of-the-month, and employee of the year awards. Then she got involved in a conflict with her brand new on the job fifth manager who was influenced by a disgruntled employee and bang she was gone. The good news, although we expected to she would be unemployed for some time, the phone starting ringing off the hook as soon as she put her resume out and she had the choice of many jobs, and ended being able to choose working in the top-rated hospital in BC in the department dealing with patients with brain injuries. It ended up being the best career move of her life. By the way when head office where she had worked investigated her firing, the ended up firing the manager who fired her and the other disgruntled employee.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts