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https://3downnation.com/2024/03/19/t...going-lawsuit/
Whatever the result of this lawsuit, for the time being, thank God the Argos have a management and ownership that sticks by their players and doesn't acquiesce to the sensationalism of the modern media, before seeing any kind of proof of wrongdoing.
I'm not sure what people expect the Argos to immediately do regarding Kelly, because as far as I know there are no team activities to suspend him from until mid-May.
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An organization full of spineless amoeba would have released him as soon as the allegations came to light.
The latest on this situation: https://3downnation.com/2024/04/10/l...ssment-claims/
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The longer this goes without any apparent conclusion, the worse the heat will get. I get why the league and MLSE might want to let the investigation run its course, but we're closing in on the opening of camp. Some tangible steps need to be taken (and announced) soon, IMO. There are Argo fans -- especially women fans -- talking online about being ready to bail on the team. They may or may not have good reason to feel that way -- all we have at this point are untested, albeit disturbing, allegations -- but I can completely understand why anyone would believe that meaningful action is required, and soon.
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The upgraded charge and new public details is a pressure tactic. It’s seems the Argos were not interested in settling at all for the initial case and this is the resulting measures. Interesting that the plaintiff mentions Kelly’s public influence and moral obligations that need dealt with, yet this is still a civil matter and could result in a NDA. While the total money seems to have dropped, the addition of punitive damages could result in a much larger amount if decided by a judge. Argos are on the clock with the season looming. If they don’t settle, there is no way this gets resolved in the court in time. They don’t even have a date. I know it’s frustrating only hearing from one party, but if the Argos are considering settlement, you can’t say anything and if your going to fight this, there is no reason to play any cards at this time and have the plaintiff prepare a defence.
Last edited by ArgoZ; 04-11-2024 at 08:47 PM.
I think it depends on what kind of documented evidence the complainant has. The Human Rights Code defines harassment as "engaging in a course of vexatious (annoying or provoking) comment or conduct which is known or ought reasonably to be known to be unwelcome." It goes on to give examples of what type of behaviour might be considered "sexual harassment" which does include things like asking for dates and not taking no for an answer, or making jokes or comments about a person's appearance, making sexual jokes or bragging about sexual ability etc. It sounds like the complainant is outlining in the brief some examples of this kind of behaviour.
But it's not always straight-forward. There was case of "sexual harassment" made at a place I worked at about a decade ago and although the company did have a process in place to deal with such complaints, it did eventually go to the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario. The Tribunal did not did not side with the complainant because the evidence didn't really support it. It really came down to a case of "she said / he said" as the two individuals involved knew each other and were friendly and he asked her out a number of times and flirted with her etc. Basically he thought he was being charming and she felt like he wouldn't take no for an answer. The company ended up sending the guy to "sensitivity training (which included harassment) and put her on a special project which meant they didn't interact on a daily basis anymore.
I'm sure the Argo's legal team has also looked at the claim (talked to some of their management and team players) and maybe suggested that the case and evidence might not meet the level of harassment under the Code or could be open to interpretation.
But Paul is right the longer this draws out, I think from a PR point of view, the worse it looks for the Argos. I think it will overshadow training camp and the upcoming season until it gets resolved one way or another.
Without a doubt, this has cast a pall on the off-season for the Argos and CFL and will continue to be a big story in a month from now when training camp opens, unless there is some kind of resolution by then, which I think is doubtful. I think that the best we can hope for is that the results of the CFL's external investigation comes out within the next month but who knows if that will even happen?
The only positive to the Argos getting little media attention these days is that media scrutiny hasn't been terribly intense to this point. Could you imagine if such allegations were made about Auston Matthews? There would be a media feeding frenzy on a daily basis - both locally and nationally.
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Whilst I feel the court case needs to play out before I tar and feather him, someone really should be telling Kelly to stay off social media. Nothing is a good look for him right now.
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The fact he's continuing to post on X, and the incomprehensible nature of some of his posts, is deeply troubling. One would have hoped he'd realize he's under intense scrutiny.
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Yes I was thinking the same thing. Pinball is so media savvy and is great at PR, that one would hope that he could talk to Kelly about how to try and deal with all of this. Don't mean to sound too harsh, but it's like Kelly has no common sense at all!! I remain concerned about his immaturity and poor judgement. And I'm sure either his lawyer or the lawyers for the Argos would have told him that the best thing to do is to keep a low profile and refrain from saying or doing anything that might be viewed as controversial.
He has issued a few other cryptic (to be kind) tweets. But while we don't know what was meant by the WNBA tweet, the very fact that it is open to interpretation -- and therefore subject to criticism, at a time when the heat on him and the org is growing -- is a good reason he should shut the hell up.
Year of the Rocket: John Candy, Wayne Gretzky, a Crooked Tycoon, and the Craziest Season in Football History (https://sutherlandhousebooks.com/pro...of-the-rocket/)
Bouncing Back: From National Joke to Grey Cup Champs (https://bit.ly/3fvip5x)
YOTR YouTube https://bit.ly/37jtG4f
BB YouTube https://bit.ly/2TSYPs7
https://3downnation.com/2024/04/30/c...nt-of-defence/
On the subject of things Kelly says publicly that actually matter, his statement raises some interesting questions.
Even more details in the TSN story.
https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/chad-kelly-de...ling-1.2113509
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Well it's interesting that in the Argo's statement of defence claim they mention that management advised her last Fall that she would have to improve her skills to maintain her position on the team. You have to wonder if she didn't bother to do this and then decided to file suit and claim harassment when her contract wasn't renewed. Also think it's interesting that Argo management told her she shouldn't have met with Kelly if she had an issue and should have advised management if there was a problem. I can understand why the Argos didn't settle with her because it doesn't sound like she has much of a case.
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