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    By filing a statement of defense, it ensures that if a settlement is reached out of court with a NDA, their version is now public. Still a good chance this will be settled out of court.

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    Has the team hired a new strength and conditioning coach for the 2024 season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    Has the team hired a new strength and conditioning coach for the 2024 season?
    Usama is still listed as head strength and conditioning coach. I don't see an assistant strength and conditioning coach listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Am I shocked? No, given Kelly's well-documented immaturity, which I had hoped he had gotten over last year.

    Obviously, the investigation found that he did something serious in the workplace, although we don't know the exact transgression(s). Can Kelly learn from this, grow up and have a solid career in this league? Will the Argos give him that opportunity? Time will tell on all of that.

    I will add that I feel badly for the complainant, who has been vindicated at least to some degree here, and was a valuable member of the "Argo family" for the past 5 years. I hope that she can have success in her future endeavours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Can Kelly learn from this, grow up and have a solid career in this league?
    Extremely doubtful, IMO.

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    Will the Argos give him that opportunity?
    I sincerely hope not. It's time to cut ties with him, write off the $300k bonus he received and re-establish the kind of culture that Pinball touted when he became GM. If that means taking some lumps on the field this year, so be it.
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    If Kelly did what the plaintiff is alleging, then I am all for a suitable punishment.

    What happens if the allegations are proven false in court?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Extremely doubtful, IMO.



    I sincerely hope not. It's time to cut ties with him, write off the $300k bonus he received and re-establish the kind of culture that Pinball touted when he became GM. If that means taking some lumps on the field this year, so be it.
    I agree Paul - obviously the CFL review found something pretty serious in their review to warrant a 9 game suspension etc. And Kelly has shown immaturity and bad judgement on more than one occasion. I think Argos should cut ties with him and also the CFL.

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    It’s pretty safe to assume now that one or more persons inside the organization corroborated the complainant’s claims. Bad for the Argos in the short term, but good for the honour and integrity of this team going forward. We should all be proud of this/these unnamed hero/heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellynjk View Post
    I agree Paul - obviously the CFL review found something pretty serious in their review to warrant a 9 game suspension etc. And Kelly has shown immaturity and bad judgement on more than one occasion. I think Argos should cut ties with him and also the CFL.
    I disagree. Let him pay his dues and return a better person. Everyone loves a redemption story.

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    With Kelly suspended for at least nine games, who will be the first string QB?

    With Kelly suspended for at least nine games, who will be the first string QB? Will the Argos go with Duke or look or trade for a more experienced QB?

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    Only time will tell whether the suspension is a death knell for the rest of Kelly's career.

    Time to settle up financially and put this to rest

    What better way to find out if Dukes and Scott are potential stars without throwing them to the fire?

    Much like Collaros the star was born when Ricky Ray was out with Injury...

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    Surely all of this can be contained within a single thread? (Such as the one that has existed since the allegations first surfaced.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    Surely all of this can be contained within a single thread? (Such as the one that has existed since the allegations first surfaced.)
    Sure, however I cannot be on the site at all times to merge right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    Sure, however I cannot be on the site at all times to merge right away.
    Understood. The comment was not aimed at mods but at those who create multiple threads on the same subject.
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    I'm only asking because Shawn Oakman lost his NFL opportunity on allegations that were proven false in court.

    I would like to see some evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrym View Post
    With Kelly suspended for at least nine games, who will be the first string QB? Will the Argos go with Duke or look or trade for a more experienced QB?
    Be prepared to go with Dukes and Scott and maybe make inquiries into Nathan Rourke's availability (not that I expect anything much to come of that). I can't see a veteran QB that is available that would be an upgrade on Dukes at least. Dukes seems capable of winning games in Kelly's absence (permanent or temporary, who knows?).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Be prepared to go with Dukes and Scott and maybe make inquiries into Nathan Rourke's availability (not that I expect anything much to come of that). I can't see a veteran QB that is available that would be an upgrade on Dukes at least. Dukes seems capable of winning games in Kelly's absence (permanent or temporary, who knows?).
    I agree. Go with Dukes and Scott . . . and the best of any other arms brought into camp. But also keep an eye on other teams' TC rosters and cuts, and listen to any offers. There's no guarantee that Kelly will ever be back.

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    I do hope he gets the health he obviously needs, I just don't think he should be a member of the Argos as he does so.

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    The investigation evidently found something that prompted the suspension. The report is apparently 87 pages long, and, we'll never see it, but I would assume Argos and Kelly get a copy.
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