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    Quote Originally Posted by primetime31 View Post
    Can some please provide me with some context for his video?
    Pro athlete uses inappropriate language on social media. Stop the presses.

    The pearl-clutching around here is getting out of hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Pro athlete uses inappropriate language on social media. Stop the presses.

    The pearl-clutching around here is getting out of hand.
    The video isn’t wildly inappropriate as some on social media are making it out to be, it’s just very strange and extremely poor timing. It’s definitely a head scratcher. Like wtf is he thinking? He needs to stay off social media, lay low and just work on football.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    The video isn’t wildly inappropriate as some on social media are making it out to be, it’s just very strange and extremely poor timing. It’s definitely a head scratcher. Like wtf is he thinking? He needs to stay off social media, lay low and just work on football.
    Kelly is the reigning league MOP and face of the Argonauts. Time to start acting like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    The video isn’t wildly inappropriate as some on social media are making it out to be, it’s just very strange and extremely poor timing. It’s definitely a head scratcher. Like wtf is he thinking? He needs to stay off social media, lay low and just work on football.
    It is very strange and extremely poor timing that is amplified by what else is going on with him. It would be prudent for him to stay off social media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Will View Post
    It is very strange and extremely poor timing that is amplified by what else is going on with him. It would be prudent for him to stay off social media.
    On Instagram yesterday he posted videos of a workout where he’s throwing dimes, as he does. I doubt Rider fans will be reposting THOSE videos.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Pro athlete uses inappropriate language on social media. Stop the presses.

    The pearl-clutching around here is getting out of hand.
    The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.
    If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
    IF occasionally acting up meant making the odd goofy comment on social media, then sure. Some will draw a line at whacked-out, loon behavior or getting in fights/disputes with others on the team you are supposed to be helping lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    IF occasionally acting up meant making the odd goofy comment on social media, then sure. Some will draw a line at whacked-out, loon behavior or getting in fights/disputes with others on the team you are supposed to be helping lead.
    Let’s just hope Kelly’s mental state is good. Like AV touched on, maybe he is not handling these allegations well and is struggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.
    Because it's either one or the other? I can think of a lot of non-mediocre QBs who always acted professionally, and a lot of mediocre QBs who always acted professionally. What I can't seem to think of is a lot of MOPs who occasionally "acted up" (if that's how this is being described).
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    I can think of a lot of non-mediocre QBs who always acted professionally.
    If there are so many of these guys howcum we haven’t signed one in a couple of years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.
    Totally agree with everything you've said here. Considering Kelly is almost 30 years, he seems remarkably immature and where the hell is his judgement. I think most people in a similar situation would realize the value of just keeping a low profile till this sexual harassment allegation is dealt with and not do silly things on social media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellynjk View Post
    Totally agree with everything you've said here. Considering Kelly is almost 30 years, he seems remarkably immature and where the hell is his judgement. I think most people in a similar situation would realize the value of just keeping a low profile till this sexual harassment allegation is dealt with and not do silly things on social media.
    Kelly has not been accused of sexual harassment. This could be an important fact once things get settled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Kelly has not been accused of sexual harassment. This could be an important fact once things get settled.
    Okay point taken, but being accused of harassment is just as serious and disturbing. Kelly has talent for sure, but I have a bad feeling that the Argos are going to have continually deal with his immaturity and behaviour, so it’s a shame that he’s their marquis player at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kellynjk View Post
    Okay point taken, but being accused of harassment is just as serious and disturbing. Kelly has talent for sure, but I have a bad feeling that the Argos are going to have continually deal with his immaturity and behaviour, so it’s a shame that he’s their marquis player at the moment.
    Harassment is often subjective and can be all of levels from repeatedly asking something (collections) to extreme stalking. Sexual harassment is more defined and often leads to criminal charges. Kelly is facing no criminal recourse and to be honest, is being accused of being a giant A-hole to put it in laymen’s terms. I don’t know what the punishment for that is, if true, but losing your job would have legal challenges. A professional team could cut ties because they don’t want that type of player around, yet we are not hearing that. In fact, the Argos are moving ahead with him as QB. That’s very telling. They have to be confident of the outcome and/or be privy to important information we are not. Once again, we have to let this unfold before making outlandish claims or opinions and the least we can do is get the terms right if we are going to speculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Harassment is often subjective and can be all of levels from repeatedly asking something (collections) to extreme stalking. Sexual harassment is more defined and often leads to criminal charges. Kelly is facing no criminal recourse and to be honest, is being accused of being a giant A-hole to put it in laymen’s terms. I don’t know what the punishment for that is, if true, but losing your job would have legal challenges. A professional team could cut ties because they don’t want that type of player around, yet we are not hearing that. In fact, the Argos are moving ahead with him as QB. That’s very telling. They have to be confident of the outcome and/or be privy to important information we are not. Once again, we have to let this unfold before making outlandish claims or opinions and the least we can do is get the terms right if we are going to speculate.
    A succinct but complete layout of the case before Kelly and the Argos. Hope this helps everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Harassment is often subjective and can be all of levels from repeatedly asking something (collections) to extreme stalking. Sexual harassment is more defined and often leads to criminal charges. Kelly is facing no criminal recourse and to be honest, is being accused of being a giant A-hole to put it in laymen’s terms. I don’t know what the punishment for that is, if true, but losing your job would have legal challenges. A professional team could cut ties because they don’t want that type of player around, yet we are not hearing that. In fact, the Argos are moving ahead with him as QB. That’s very telling. They have to be confident of the outcome and/or be privy to important information we are not. Once again, we have to let this unfold before making outlandish claims or opinions and the least we can do is get the terms right if we are going to speculate.
    Summed up quite nicely ArgoZ, let’s see how this plays out.
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