Argo QBs for TC ?

[Shatto]

It will be a surprise if the civil case is not settled before it goes to court with a NDA as part of the settlement. If that is the case, the league may find its hands tied re any discipline against Kelly. However the league might still be able to fine the organization for not following league defined protocol. It is quite possible Kelly will be starting QB from day one, if the afore mentioned actions occur.

Scott did not impress in training camp, in practices I observed or in his brief game time. He might be in training camp but if the team signs a couple of more promising QBs, Scott's time in camp may be very short. That is only my opinion and who knows Scott may surprise us all but based on last year's play it's not likely.

[ArgoRavi]

It will be a surprise if the civil case is not settled before it goes to court with a NDA as part of the settlement. If that is the case, the league may find its hands tied re any discipline against Kelly. However the league might still be able to fine the organization for not following league defined protocol. It is quite possible Kelly will be starting QB from day one, if the afore mentioned actions occur.

Scott did not impress in training camp, in practices I observed or in his brief game time. He might be in training camp but if the team signs a couple of more promising QBs, Scott's time in camp may be very short. That is only my opinion and who knows Scott may surprise us all but based on last year's play it's not likely.

My understanding is that the league's investigation is separate from any legal issues that Kelly and the team are facing.

[Shatto]

My understanding is that the league's investigation is separate from any legal issues that Kelly and the team are facing.

It is tricky. If the case does go to court, the league could investigate but would not likely reveal their findings while the case is ongoing. If as expected, the parties settle with a NDA before court commences, the parties would be unable to speak about the case, which obviously would make any investigation practically impossible. Cases like this seldom reach court unless the defendant(s) feel they have an unassailable defense. Even then most try the avoid a civil court trial as nothing is ever a 100% certainty in such matters. However, the league could investigate if league protocol was followed.

[paulwoods13]

Kelly's bizarre and inappropriate post has drawn some unwelcome attention from the rights-holder and apparently around the league.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/loud-of...rhQLaCjAh9Gczw

[paulwoods13]

If it's not inappropriate, wouldn't that mean it's appropriate? Or is inappropriate but just not "wildly" inappropriate?

[ArgoGabe22]

If it's not inappropriate, wouldn't that mean it's appropriate? Or is inappropriate but just not "wildly" inappropriate?

Twitter is making it seem worse than it is. It is not a video/post warranting a release IMO. I have a ton of questions myself surrounding the video but it certainly could be worse.

[Rich]

Twitter is making it seem worse than it is. It is not a video/post warranting a release IMO.

I get the sense that a lot of the negativity on Twitter is from CFL haters who will use any excuse to trash the league, like the guy who said he hopes this incident will result in even smaller crowds than the Argos usually get.

But again, if that’s the price for having an MOP QB on the roster, I for one will gladly pay it.

[Argo57]

I get the sense that a lot of the negativity on Twitter is from CFL haters who will use any excuse to trash the league, like the guy who said he hopes this incident will result in even smaller crowds than the Argos usually get.

But again, if that’s the price for having an MOP QB on the roster, I for one will gladly pay it.

Even amongst CFL fans many hate the Argonauts, to them I say go f*ck yourselves.
Proud to be a fan of this team!

[OV Argo]

Even amongst CFL fans many hate the Argonauts, to them I say go f*ck yourselves.
Proud to be a fan of this team!

Not sure I can call anybody who "hates" other CFL teams a real CFL fan? Sure, you can strongly dislike some other teams (especially long-time close rivals like the Pussycats), but this hater stuff I just don't get. Don't be a jealous or pompous homer who only knows his own team, but respect/ treasure all the teams in a 9 team historic league and you're more of a true CFL fan - to me / IMO.

The CFL haters in general out there in our own country - like the NFL fan-boys and all-American hype $uckers and the like minded dupes in our media - now those clowns can go F themselves = pathetic victims of the Canadian inferiority complex who lap up glitter-hype till they puke/spew it.

[ArgoGabe22]

I get the sense that a lot of the negativity on Twitter is from CFL haters who will use any excuse to trash the league, like the guy who said he hopes this incident will result in even smaller crowds than the Argos usually get.

But again, if that’s the price for having an MOP QB on the roster, I for one will gladly pay it.

Its fans of the other teams I have noticed.

[paulwoods13]

"It could be worse" sure is a great way of describing the face of our franchise.

[gilthethrill]

"It could be worse" sure is a great way of describing the face of our franchise.

2024 Ticket Sales Slogan…”It Could Be Worse”…..I like it Paul!

[kellynjk]

2024 Ticket Sales Slogan…”It Could Be Worse”…..I like it Paul!

HA, ha, ha - I like it. "It Could be Worse" as the Ticket Sales Slogan - it acknowledges some of the challenges that the Argos might face, but also has that "silver lining" aspect to it!!!

[ArgoGabe22]

"It could be worse" sure is a great way of describing the face of our franchise.

You think Kelly should be released over the video? Murphy arguably made worse comments that surfaced in a video, left the team and was quietly rehired.

When you see the Argos trending and a shitstorm online and you watch the actual video, still very strange, you realize, this isn’t as bad as you might have first feard given the headlines. Still unacceptable but yeah, it could’ve been worse.

[AngeloV]

I have basically stayed away from commenting on this thread. The fact of the matter is that we have no clue what happened. For all we know, maybe Kelly and the accuser had an affair that went bad. Maybe her accusation is truthful, but again, we have no idea.
As for his bizarre social media posts, I would hope he would know better, but if I was accused of something that deep down I believe was a false accusation (and I'm not saying it is false, but Kelly might believe it is), I have no idea how I would react, and anyone that says they know how they would react is a liar. Until you are in that situation, you just don't know.

[paulwoods13]

You think Kelly should be released over the video? Murphy arguably made worse comments that surfaced in a video, left the team and was quietly rehired.

When you see the Argos trending and a shitstorm online and you watch the actual video, still very strange, you realize, this isn’t as bad as you might have first feard given the headlines. Still unacceptable but yeah, it could’ve been worse.

I get that there are people on Twitter demanding that Kelly be released. Some seem to be doing so based solely on the video, while others are basing the call on the allegations against him, or on the allegations *and* the video.

Since you asked, No, I don't think Kelly should be released over the video. But calling it "unacceptable" is an understatement IMO.

I have basically stayed away from commenting on this thread. The fact of the matter is that we have no clue what happened. For all we know, maybe Kelly and the accuser had an affair that went bad. Maybe her accusation is truthful, but again, we have no idea.
As for his bizarre social media posts, I would hope he would know better, but if I was accused of something that deep down I believe was a false accusation (and I'm not saying it is false, but Kelly might believe it is), I have no idea how I would react, and anyone that says they know how they would react is a liar. Until you are in that situation, you just don't know.

No, we don't know what (if anything) happened between Kelly and the complainant, or Murphy and the complainant, or the org and the complainant. The lawsuit at this point is just a list of allegations that have not been tested or proven in court. But we have now also seen troubling public behaviour from the player the team is built around. If this happened entirely on its own at a time when there were no other matters outstanding, some if not many fans would be deeply concerned about it. The fact it happened while this allegation is hanging over him and the org ratchets up the concern IMO. Whatever he might feel or know about the allegations against him, that type of public behaviour is not the way to respond. I would hope he'd have someone advising him to lay low and let the processes play out instead of adding fuel to the fire, and that he would take such advice seriously.

[ArgoGabe22]

Team made no mention of Kelly’s bday. They have posted on Instagram bdays in the past. Hmm…

[ArgoRavi]

Team made no mention of Kelly’s bday. They have posted on Instagram bdays in the past. Hmm…

Anything on social media about Chad Kelly right now elicits a lot of negative reaction. I am guessing that the team would rather avoid that.

[Will]

I agree with Ravi, any post relating to Kelly is going to elicit a strong and negative reaction. I wouldn't read anything more into the lack of birthday tweet other than the fact that the team is aware of this, and has identified that it isn't prudent to post anything related to him right now.

[paulwoods13]

I agree with Ravi, any post relating to Kelly is going to elicit a strong and negative reaction. I wouldn't read anything more into the lack of birthday tweet other than the fact that the team is aware of this, and has identified that it isn't prudent to post anything related to him right now.

Which is a pretty terrible position to be in as an org. The most outstanding player in the league, who is reportedly being paid $100k as "marketing money," has to be kept under wraps. Guess they will build their marketing campaign some other way.