Argo QBs for TC ?

[paulwoods13]

Kelly's bizarre and inappropriate post has drawn some unwelcome attention from the rights-holder and apparently around the league.

https://www.tsn.ca/cfl/video/loud-of...rhQLaCjAh9Gczw

[ArgoGabe22]

Pro athlete uses inappropriate language on social media. Stop the presses.

The pearl-clutching around here is getting out of hand.

The video isn’t wildly inappropriate as some on social media are making it out to be, it’s just very strange and extremely poor timing. It’s definitely a head scratcher. Like wtf is he thinking? He needs to stay off social media, lay low and just work on football.

[gilthethrill]

The video isn’t wildly inappropriate as some on social media are making it out to be, it’s just very strange and extremely poor timing. It’s definitely a head scratcher. Like wtf is he thinking? He needs to stay off social media, lay low and just work on football.

Kelly is the reigning league MOP and face of the Argonauts. Time to start acting like it.

[Will]

The video isn’t wildly inappropriate as some on social media are making it out to be, it’s just very strange and extremely poor timing. It’s definitely a head scratcher. Like wtf is he thinking? He needs to stay off social media, lay low and just work on football.

It is very strange and extremely poor timing that is amplified by what else is going on with him. It would be prudent for him to stay off social media.

[ArgoRavi]

Pro athlete uses inappropriate language on social media. Stop the presses.

The pearl-clutching around here is getting out of hand.

The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.

[paulwoods13]

If it's not inappropriate, wouldn't that mean it's appropriate? Or is inappropriate but just not "wildly" inappropriate?

[ArgoGabe22]

If it's not inappropriate, wouldn't that mean it's appropriate? Or is inappropriate but just not "wildly" inappropriate?

Twitter is making it seem worse than it is. It is not a video/post warranting a release IMO. I have a ton of questions myself surrounding the video but it certainly could be worse.

[paulwoods13]

"It could be worse" sure is a great way of describing the face of our franchise.

[gilthethrill]

"It could be worse" sure is a great way of describing the face of our franchise.

2024 Ticket Sales Slogan…”It Could Be Worse”…..I like it Paul!

[ArgoGabe22]

"It could be worse" sure is a great way of describing the face of our franchise.

You think Kelly should be released over the video? Murphy arguably made worse comments that surfaced in a video, left the team and was quietly rehired.

When you see the Argos trending and a shitstorm online and you watch the actual video, still very strange, you realize, this isn’t as bad as you might have first feard given the headlines. Still unacceptable but yeah, it could’ve been worse.

[AngeloV]

I have basically stayed away from commenting on this thread. The fact of the matter is that we have no clue what happened. For all we know, maybe Kelly and the accuser had an affair that went bad. Maybe her accusation is truthful, but again, we have no idea.
As for his bizarre social media posts, I would hope he would know better, but if I was accused of something that deep down I believe was a false accusation (and I'm not saying it is false, but Kelly might believe it is), I have no idea how I would react, and anyone that says they know how they would react is a liar. Until you are in that situation, you just don't know.

[Rich]

The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.

If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

[Rich]

It is very strange and extremely poor timing that is amplified by what else is going on with him. It would be prudent for him to stay off social media.

On Instagram yesterday he posted videos of a workout where he’s throwing dimes, as he does. I doubt Rider fans will be reposting THOSE videos.

[OV Argo]

If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

IF occasionally acting up meant making the odd goofy comment on social media, then sure. Some will draw a line at whacked-out, loon behavior or getting in fights/disputes with others on the team you are supposed to be helping lead.

[paulwoods13]

You think Kelly should be released over the video? Murphy arguably made worse comments that surfaced in a video, left the team and was quietly rehired.

When you see the Argos trending and a shitstorm online and you watch the actual video, still very strange, you realize, this isn’t as bad as you might have first feard given the headlines. Still unacceptable but yeah, it could’ve been worse.

I get that there are people on Twitter demanding that Kelly be released. Some seem to be doing so based solely on the video, while others are basing the call on the allegations against him, or on the allegations *and* the video.

Since you asked, No, I don't think Kelly should be released over the video. But calling it "unacceptable" is an understatement IMO.

I have basically stayed away from commenting on this thread. The fact of the matter is that we have no clue what happened. For all we know, maybe Kelly and the accuser had an affair that went bad. Maybe her accusation is truthful, but again, we have no idea.
As for his bizarre social media posts, I would hope he would know better, but if I was accused of something that deep down I believe was a false accusation (and I'm not saying it is false, but Kelly might believe it is), I have no idea how I would react, and anyone that says they know how they would react is a liar. Until you are in that situation, you just don't know.

No, we don't know what (if anything) happened between Kelly and the complainant, or Murphy and the complainant, or the org and the complainant. The lawsuit at this point is just a list of allegations that have not been tested or proven in court. But we have now also seen troubling public behaviour from the player the team is built around. If this happened entirely on its own at a time when there were no other matters outstanding, some if not many fans would be deeply concerned about it. The fact it happened while this allegation is hanging over him and the org ratchets up the concern IMO. Whatever he might feel or know about the allegations against him, that type of public behaviour is not the way to respond. I would hope he'd have someone advising him to lay low and let the processes play out instead of adding fuel to the fire, and that he would take such advice seriously.

[paulwoods13]

If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Because it's either one or the other? I can think of a lot of non-mediocre QBs who always acted professionally, and a lot of mediocre QBs who always acted professionally. What I can't seem to think of is a lot of MOPs who occasionally "acted up" (if that's how this is being described).

[Rich]

I can think of a lot of non-mediocre QBs who always acted professionally.

If there are so many of these guys howcum we haven’t signed one in a couple of years?

[Rich]

Twitter is making it seem worse than it is. It is not a video/post warranting a release IMO.

I get the sense that a lot of the negativity on Twitter is from CFL haters who will use any excuse to trash the league, like the guy who said he hopes this incident will result in even smaller crowds than the Argos usually get.

But again, if that’s the price for having an MOP QB on the roster, I for one will gladly pay it.

[gilthethrill]

IF occasionally acting up meant making the odd goofy comment on social media, then sure. Some will draw a line at whacked-out, loon behavior or getting in fights/disputes with others on the team you are supposed to be helping lead.

Let’s just hope Kelly’s mental state is good. Like AV touched on, maybe he is not handling these allegations well and is struggling.

[Argo57]

I get the sense that a lot of the negativity on Twitter is from CFL haters who will use any excuse to trash the league, like the guy who said he hopes this incident will result in even smaller crowds than the Argos usually get.

But again, if that’s the price for having an MOP QB on the roster, I for one will gladly pay it.

Even amongst CFL fans many hate the Argonauts, to them I say go f*ck yourselves.
Proud to be a fan of this team!