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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    (but O-line "depth" is always a CFL GOB area of concern, so to be expected?).
    O-line depth (no quotation marks) is an area of concern at every level of pro football, not just the CFL. Those are hard positions to play, and they take a physical toll on the players. Having reliable guys waiting in the wings matters at all positions, but I would argue o-line is at or near the top of the list of importance. Argos are fortunate to have two experienced NATs who can serve as primary backups (Mackellar and Giffen), but if a starter goes down with an injury, they'll be dressing a rookie or seldom-used prospect. So they better find someone who can play among Vandal, Noll, Paradis and this year's draft class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    O-line depth (no quotation marks) is an area of concern at every level of pro football, not just the CFL. Those are hard positions to play, and they take a physical toll on the players. Having reliable guys waiting in the wings matters at all positions, but I would argue o-line is at or near the top of the list of importance. Argos are fortunate to have two experienced NATs who can serve as primary backups (Mackellar and Giffen), but if a starter goes down with an injury, they'll be dressing a rookie or seldom-used prospect. So they better find someone who can play among Vandal, Noll, Paradis and this year's draft class.
    Sure; but ignoring other positions of obvious need, just to load-up on more good ole NI "depth" at a certain position group, is more of a CFL GOB thing. There is little chance that say Vandal & Noll, plus 2 new O-line from this draft are going to be kept on the roster with MacKellar & Giffen already in place as "depth". And if you need more down the road, you just use the next year's draft to address it (IMO there are pretty well always at least 5 or more very good O-line prospects for each CFL draft). And meanwhile - this Argo team has all of one Canadian RBs in Adeboboye, but they ignored the chance to draft one of 2 top notch RB prospects - in mid rounds - to instead take another O-lineman, and when they still added 2 more pretty good O-line prospects later in the draft. This might make GOB good sense to you; just not to me.

    Ego_Jones just used his first 2 draft picks, plus a 3rd this draft on interior LB types, and when he had used a top pick on a similar type last year's draft; plus has other interior Canadian LBs on the roster. Over-kill that makes zero sense and when he does not have much for Canadian receivers and of course zero use for Canadian RBs. So typical & myopic stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Sure; but ignoring other positions of obvious need, just to load-up on more good ole NI "depth" at a certain position group, is more of a CFL GOB thing. There is little chance that say Vandal & Noll, plus 2 new O-line from this draft are going to be kept on the roster with MacKellar & Giffen already in place as "depth". And if you need more down the road, you just use the next year's draft to address it (IMO there are pretty well always at least 5 or more very good O-line prospects for each CFL draft). And meanwhile - this Argo team has all of one Canadian RBs in Adeboboye, but they ignored the chance to draft one of 2 top notch RB prospects - in mid rounds - to instead take another O-lineman, and when they still added 2 more pretty good O-line prospects later in the draft. This might make GOB good sense to you; just not to me.

    Ego_Jones just used his first 2 draft picks, plus a 3rd this draft on interior LB types, and when he had used a top pick on a similar type last year's draft; plus has other interior Canadian LBs on the roster. Over-kill that makes zero sense and when he does not have much for Canadian receivers and of course zero use for Canadian RBs. So typical & myopic stupidity.
    I agree wholeheartedly in regards to Chris Jones and his draft strategy, bizarre to say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    I agree wholeheartedly in regards to Chris Jones and his draft strategy, bizarre to say the least.
    I count 8 Canadian inside linebacker types that Jones has drafted or acquired in the past couple of seasons (including 1 in each of the first 3 rounds of the draft yesterday; and last year's 1st rounder was Brodrique).

    Now maybe if Jones was deploying 2 NI starters at MLB & OLB, and wanted depth protection behind them and maybe another couple as ST aces dressed as well ? - maybe he could do that ? We shall see.

    And in another Jones / Canadian LB note - I see Jonestown just released former 1st rounder E. Makonzo - who played S-OLB (rare for Canadians in the CFL lately) with starts as a rookie 1st round draft pick for Jones. I would love to see the Argos snap up this guy - even though they have a bunch of NI LBs now - to see if he could compete with or back-up Adeleke if they were to try him at S-OLB. Why Jones cuts this former 1st rounder who IMO was quite impressive as a rookie there is a head-scratcher ... ? No wait, scratch that ... maybe the guy insulted or questioned the all-knowing great leader & football genius there.

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    Here's the Argos' comments on their draft picks. It's interesting that their first six picks were all from Canadian universities, unlike many other CFL teams.

    Round Pick Name Position College
    1 5 Kevin Mital WR Laval
    3 24 Tyson Hergott DL Waterloo
    3 25 John Bosse OL Calgary
    3 27 Tyshon Blackburn DB Alberta
    5 39 Jerrell Cummings DB UBC
    5 45 Ifenna Onyeka DL Carleton
    6 48 Anim Dankwah OL Howard
    6 54 Justin Sambu DL Baylor
    8 72 Daniel Shin OL Alberta




    Mital, 6’1 and 215lbs, was the 2022 USPORTS Hec Creighton Award winner after posting 58 catches for 751 yards and 12 touchdowns for the Laval Rouge et Or, becoming the first receiver to win the award since 2005. The Quebec native recorded eight receptions for 142 yards and one touchdown in the 2022 Vanier Cup, a 30-24 win over The University of Saskatchewan. Last season Mital played four games hauling in 22 receptions for 280 yards and three touchdowns. Mital played eight games in 2021 with 45 catches for 554 yards and seven touchdowns, earning Second-Team All Canadian. He started his collegiate career at Syracuse in 2019 where he redshirted.

    Hergott, 6’3 and 246lbs, was a 2023 All-Canadian for the Waterloo Warriors after posting 11 sacks, 38 tackles, 14 tackles for loss, three forced fumbles and one interception. The Waterloo native was a runner up for the J.P. Metras Trophy, award to the nation’s top defensive lineman. Hergott finished his UW career with 89 total tackles, 26.5 tackles for loss, 16 sacks, and five forced fumbles in 23 games.


    Bosse, 6’4 and 335lbs, suited up along the offensive line for 29 games over four seasons at The University of Calgary (2019-2023). Bosse was part of the Dinos team that won the Vanier Cup in 2019 over The University of Montreal.


    Blackburn, 6’2 and 203lbs, spent the last four seasons at The University of Alberta (2019-2023). Last season saw Blackburn play 10 games and record 25 tackles, one interception and three pass deflections. Over 32 career games, the Calgary native tallied 100 tackles, four interceptions and 12 pass deflections for the Golden Bears. The defensive back was named an All-Canadian in 2021.


    Cummings, 5’11 and 195lbs, played nine games for The University of British Columbia Thunderbirds last season, tallying 22 tackles and 1.5 tackles for loss. The Vancouver native played at Simon Fraser University from 2019-2022 and recorded 106 total tackles, four interceptions, 35 pass deflections, two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery.


    Onyeka, 6’1 and 249lbs, played eight games at Carleton University in 2023 with 33.5 tackles, 5.5 sacks and one forced fumble. Onyeka hails from Brampton, Ontario.


    Ankwah, 6’8 and 362lbs, played 12 games at Howard University in 2023. For his career, the Ghana born but Brampton raised Ankwah appeared in 39 games over five seasons along the offensive line for the Bison. He was invited to Philadelphia Eagles minicamp following the NFL Draft this past weekend.


    Sambu, 6’2 and 282lbs, played in 12 games at The University of Baylor making two tackles. The Calgary native played four seasons at The University of Maine prior to Baylor, totaling 59 tackles, 10 for loss, 5.5 sacks, two forced fumbles and one fumble recovery for the Black Bears.


    Shin, 6’3 and 286lbs, played 29 games over four seasons for The University of Alberta Golden Bears (2019-2023). Shin is from Edmonton, Alberta.
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