Congratulations to Chad Owens, S.J Green, Vince Goldsmith & Ray Jauch

[paulwoods13]

Here is my annual rant about the Hall, which is trending strongly towards rewarding longevity over actual dominance on the field.

SJ Green and Weston Dressler were both excellent receivers for more than a decade, and both surpassed 10,000 yards receiving, which I suppose makes it impossible to keep them out of the Hall. But on a per-game and per-season basis, their statistics are overshadowed by those of Darrell K. Smith, who remains outside the Hall, as well as three receivers whose careers were of similar (shortish) length to Smith's but managed to get in after long waits: Terry Greer, Merv Fernandez and David Williams.

Receptions per game: Greer 4.9, Fernandez 4.8, Dressler 4.4, Williams 4.3, Smith 4.3, Green 4.2

Receiving yards per game: Greer 83.1, Fernandez 80.6, Smith 73.6, Williams 71.3, Dressler 62.3, Green 60.1

TDs per game: Williams 0.77, Fernandez 0.69, Greer 0.57, Smith 0.46, Dressler 0.38, Green 0.35

Yards per season: Smith 1,177, Greer 1,136, Fernandez 1,115, Dressler 911, Williams 900, Green 786 (NOTE: if we excluded Green's four worst seasons, when he played only 15 games in total, his average would be 1,086)

Maximum yards in a season: Greer 2,003, Smith 1,826, Fernandez 1,727, Williams 1,468, Green 1,462, Dressler 1,206

Average gain per reception: Smith 17.3, Greer 16.9, Fernandez 16.8, Williams 16.4, Green 14.3, Dressler 14.0

DK Smith ranks ahead of both Dressler and Green in five of these six categories. He is in the same ballpark as the legendary Greer and Fernandez in four of the six categories. He is equal to or better than Williams in five of the six categories. Yet he remains outside the Hall.

Grrr. End of rant.

[AngeloV]

Here is my annual rant about the Hall, which is trending strongly towards rewarding longevity over actual dominance on the field.

SJ Green and Weston Dressler were both excellent receivers for more than a decade, and both surpassed 10,000 yards receiving, which I suppose makes it impossible to keep them out of the Hall. But on a per-game and per-season basis, their statistics are overshadowed by those of Darrell K. Smith, who remains outside the Hall, as well as three receivers whose careers were of similar (shortish) length to Smith's but managed to get in after long waits: Terry Greer, Merv Fernandez and David Williams.

Receptions per game: Greer 4.9, Fernandez 4.8, Dressler 4.4, Williams 4.3, Smith 4.3, Green 4.2

Receiving yards per game: Greer 83.1, Fernandez 80.6, Smith 73.6, Williams 71.3, Dressler 62.3, Green 60.1

TDs per game: Williams 0.77, Fernandez 0.69, Greer 0.57, Smith 0.46, Dressler 0.38, Green 0.35

Yards per season: Smith 1,177, Greer 1,136, Fernandez 1,115, Dressler 911, Williams 900, Green 786 (NOTE: if we excluded Green's four worst seasons, when he played only 15 games in total, his average would be 1,086)

Maximum yards in a season: Greer 2,003, Smith 1,826, Fernandez 1,727, Williams 1,468, Green 1,462, Dressler 1,206

Average gain per reception: Smith 17.3, Greer 16.9, Fernandez 16.8, Williams 16.4, Green 14.3, Dressler 14.0

DK Smith ranks ahead of both Dressler and Green in five of these six categories. He is in the same ballpark as the legendary Greer and Fernandez in four of the six categories. He is equal to or better than Williams in five of the six categories. Yet he remains outside the Hall.

Grrr. End of rant.

DK must have pissed off some voters in his day that still carry a grudge.

Regarding yards per season, Greer and Fernandez would rank 1-2 if you factor in they played 16 game seasons. SJ Green is very deserving. As you point out, his per season totals are much higher if you take away the seasons he wasn't playing. And longevity and consistency also do mean something. Ask Mike Gartner. He's in the hockey hall of fame, and never really was dominating in his career. Just extremely consistent.

[paulwoods13]

DK must have pissed off some voters in his day that still carry a grudge.

The CFHOF has the least transparent selection process of any Hall of Fame. We don't know who the selectors are, what criteria they use, or really anything other than who gets announced each year. IMO, if there is a grudge being carried against DK, it's related to the way his life unfolded after football. It's no secret that he got heavily into drugs. According to his brother Sherman Smith, he had cleaned up his act before cancer took him at way too young an age, but it wouldn't surprise me if his older ways are behind his failure to be inducted alongside Greer, Fernandez and Williams.

There are many other snubs, of course. Don't get me started about Leo Cahill, who despite failing to win a Grey Cup as a head coach was the greatest promoter in Cdn football history, and one of the best recruiters ever.

[ArgoGabe22]

The CFHOF has the least transparent selection process of any Hall of Fame. We don't know who the selectors are, what criteria they use, or really anything other than who gets announced each year. IMO, if there is a grudge being carried against DK, it's related to the way his life unfolded after football. It's no secret that he got heavily into drugs.

Wasn't it an open secret that they held a grudge against Hank Illesic because his friendship (perhaps his informant) with Marty York? Or is that just Marty York's own conspiracy? If so, they seemed to have finally let go of that grudge.

[ArgoRavi]

Not a huge fan of what seems to be first ballot HOFers. Not sure if they are since the CFHOF doesn't get the same media coverage as the "Pro Football" HOF. But guys like Green, Owens, Dressler all seem way too recent. And the next crop of the first year ballots will be inducted over more forgotten older players. My own head hasn't even processed if Green, Owens, and Dressler are HOFers. But as long as Kevin Glenn doesn't make it, I'll be happy. That will be the day I lose all respect to the voters.

Agreed on Glenn. Let's hope that the day never comes when he makes it in the HOF, with all due respect to him and his longevity in the league.

Wasn't it an open secret that they held a grudge against Hank Illesic because his friendship (perhaps his informant) with Marty York? Or is that just Marty York's own conspiracy? If so, they seemed to have finally let go of that grudge.

There has always been speculation about that but who knows? It took ridiculously long for Ilesic to get in though.

[Argo57]

Agreed on Glenn. Let's hope that the day never comes when he makes it in the HOF, with all due respect to him and his longevity in the league.



There has always been speculation about that but who knows? It took ridiculously long for Ilesic to get in though.

Kevin Glenn had a long distinguished career of mediocrity.

[OV Argo]

Kevin Glenn had a long distinguished career of mediocrity.

Yep; with CFL chance after chance after chance ...

[paulwoods13]

Wasn't it an open secret that they held a grudge against Hank Illesic because his friendship (perhaps his informant) with Marty York? Or is that just Marty York's own conspiracy? If so, they seemed to have finally let go of that grudge.

But who are "they"? We don't even know who the selectors are now, much less back when Ilesic was not in the Hall.

[Will]

But who are "they"? We don't even know who the selectors are now, much less back when Ilesic was not in the Hall.

I have a few theories in my mind, but as you say without transparency as to the process, I'd just be spinning my wheels putting them down here.

Recall that it took Ray Guy (arguably the greatest punter in NFL history) quite awhile to get his NFL HOF induction though.

[Will]

Here is my annual rant about the Hall, which is trending strongly towards rewarding longevity over actual dominance on the field.

SJ Green and Weston Dressler were both excellent receivers for more than a decade, and both surpassed 10,000 yards receiving, which I suppose makes it impossible to keep them out of the Hall. But on a per-game and per-season basis, their statistics are overshadowed by those of Darrell K. Smith, who remains outside the Hall, as well as three receivers whose careers were of similar (shortish) length to Smith's but managed to get in after long waits: Terry Greer, Merv Fernandez and David Williams.

Receptions per game: Greer 4.9, Fernandez 4.8, Dressler 4.4, Williams 4.3, Smith 4.3, Green 4.2

Receiving yards per game: Greer 83.1, Fernandez 80.6, Smith 73.6, Williams 71.3, Dressler 62.3, Green 60.1

TDs per game: Williams 0.77, Fernandez 0.69, Greer 0.57, Smith 0.46, Dressler 0.38, Green 0.35

Yards per season: Smith 1,177, Greer 1,136, Fernandez 1,115, Dressler 911, Williams 900, Green 786 (NOTE: if we excluded Green's four worst seasons, when he played only 15 games in total, his average would be 1,086)

Maximum yards in a season: Greer 2,003, Smith 1,826, Fernandez 1,727, Williams 1,468, Green 1,462, Dressler 1,206

Average gain per reception: Smith 17.3, Greer 16.9, Fernandez 16.8, Williams 16.4, Green 14.3, Dressler 14.0

DK Smith ranks ahead of both Dressler and Green in five of these six categories. He is in the same ballpark as the legendary Greer and Fernandez in four of the six categories. He is equal to or better than Williams in five of the six categories. Yet he remains outside the Hall.

Grrr. End of rant.

I'd be interested to see where Gerald Alphin and Stephen Jones fit in these rankings.

[ArgoRavi]

Here is my annual rant about the Hall, which is trending strongly towards rewarding longevity over actual dominance on the field.

SJ Green and Weston Dressler were both excellent receivers for more than a decade, and both surpassed 10,000 yards receiving, which I suppose makes it impossible to keep them out of the Hall. But on a per-game and per-season basis, their statistics are overshadowed by those of Darrell K. Smith, who remains outside the Hall, as well as three receivers whose careers were of similar (shortish) length to Smith's but managed to get in after long waits: Terry Greer, Merv Fernandez and David Williams.

Receptions per game: Greer 4.9, Fernandez 4.8, Dressler 4.4, Williams 4.3, Smith 4.3, Green 4.2

Receiving yards per game: Greer 83.1, Fernandez 80.6, Smith 73.6, Williams 71.3, Dressler 62.3, Green 60.1

TDs per game: Williams 0.77, Fernandez 0.69, Greer 0.57, Smith 0.46, Dressler 0.38, Green 0.35

Yards per season: Smith 1,177, Greer 1,136, Fernandez 1,115, Dressler 911, Williams 900, Green 786 (NOTE: if we excluded Green's four worst seasons, when he played only 15 games in total, his average would be 1,086)

Maximum yards in a season: Greer 2,003, Smith 1,826, Fernandez 1,727, Williams 1,468, Green 1,462, Dressler 1,206

Average gain per reception: Smith 17.3, Greer 16.9, Fernandez 16.8, Williams 16.4, Green 14.3, Dressler 14.0

DK Smith ranks ahead of both Dressler and Green in five of these six categories. He is in the same ballpark as the legendary Greer and Fernandez in four of the six categories. He is equal to or better than Williams in five of the six categories. Yet he remains outside the Hall.

Grrr. End of rant.

There's definitely a recency bias with HOF inductions.

[ArgoGabe22]

There's definitely a recency bias with HOF inductions.

Not a huge fan of what seems to be first ballot HOFers. Not sure if they are since the CFHOF doesn't get the same media coverage as the "Pro Football" HOF. But guys like Green, Owens, Dressler all seem way too recent. And the next crop of the first year ballots will be inducted over more forgotten older players. My own head hasn't even processed if Green, Owens, and Dressler are HOFers. But as long as Kevin Glenn doesn't make it, I'll be happy. That will be the day I lose all respect to the voters.