Rogers cuts Bills in Toronto Series ticket prices

[paulwoods13]

Quiet as a church mouse now that he is vacationing in Nfld.

Since you never listen to the Fan and never read Brunt's writing (and of course never watch the NFL, but that's a different issue), how is it you know Brunt's vacation itinerary, argotom?

[argotom]

That's the math that came out when McCown on 590 has been saying for quite some time.
Do the math, the revunes do not add up, didn't sell any tickets and papering the house.

[argotom]

Since you never listen to the Fan and never read Brunt's writing (and of course never watch the NFL, but that's a different issue), how is it you know Brunt's vacation itinerary, argotom?

Unfortunately I have a bad habit of flipping channels when driving home and caught McCown talking to Brunt from Nfld, his summer home for the past many years.
But no I do not hang on to Fan 590 with their one sided coverage of anything but the CFL.

[R.J]

That's the math that came out when McCown on 590 has been saying for quite some time.
Do the math, the revunes do not add up, didn't sell any tickets and papering the house.

Can't really do the math because I have no idea how much they spent on marketing and advertising, also Rogers owns the dome so again not sure how much it costs to run a game at the dome. I also highly doubt that Rogers didn't sell any tickets, yes the house is papered big time, but there's at least 20k-28,000 paying customers (even is most are discounts).

I just want to know where you came up with $20 million, how your math came up with that number.

[Will]

Skip to 6:30

[argolio]

Where is this number coming from ???
It cost Rogers $ 9.75 million for each game, so is it costing Rogers $ 10.25 million for marketing and advertising plus expenses for running the game at Skydome ?
That also means that they're getting no revenue back, which doesn't make much sense.

They lost a lot of money no doubt, but I can't see it being $20 million a game. Clearly some tickets were sold at full price (we'll likely never know but I'm guessing a maximum of 25%), and some at discounted prices.

It's very hard to believe they spent $10M per game on ads and promotion. Even half that amount seems a stretch. And they probably did okay business on beer and concessions.

[argolio]

By the way, A.T. mentioned the Fan's CFL coverage -- but is it just me or has there been virtually no CFL coverage on Prime Time recently? Did Bob McCown get canned by the Grey Cup committee or something? Is this a recent Rogers directive?

In a related topic, Brian Burke stopped going on Prime Time after McCown called for Burke's firing a few months ago. Yet Burke appeared last week, and McCown was totally non-confrontational. Was that perhaps because Rogers now officially owns the Leafs?

Chips are definitely falling.

[Will]

Burke had to start talking to somebody again because he probably burned his bridge with everyone

[argotom]

By the way, A.T. mentioned the Fan's CFL coverage -- but is it just me or has there been virtually no CFL coverage on Prime Time recently? Did Bob McCown get canned by the Grey Cup committee or something? Is this a recent Rogers directive?

In a related topic, Brian Burke stopped going on Prime Time after McCown called for Burke's firing a few months ago. Yet Burke appeared last week, and McCown was totally non-confrontational. Was that perhaps because Rogers now officially owns the Leafs?

Chips are definitely falling.

You are correct.
I do not listen but check from time to time to hear the topics and specifically the CFL, but it has been a zero for either the Argos or CFL.
I have changed my view on McCown who used to classify himself as a big Argo and CFL fan.
I think not and that was pure lip service just like the other pro NFL cheerleaders and anti CFL on air staff.

[argolio]

It's also possible McCown doesn't really have a choice in the matter.

[paulwoods13]

You are correct.
I do not listen but check from time to time to hear the topics and specifically the CFL, but it has been a zero for either the Argos or CFL.
I have changed my view on McCown who used to classify himself as a big Argo and CFL fan.
I think not and that was pure lip service just like the other pro NFL cheerleaders and anti CFL on air staff.

Argotom, you claim not to listen but also claim to know that the Fan never covers the CFL except to criticize it. If all you do is "check from time to time," there is no way you could know how often, and how, they cover the CFL. Honestly, there is no shame in listening to both sports talk stations from time to time, or to admitting it.

[argotom]

Argotom, you claim not to listen but also claim to know that the Fan never covers the CFL except to criticize it. If all you do is "check from time to time," there is no way you could know how often, and how, they cover the CFL. Honestly, there is no shame in listening to both sports talk stations from time to time, or to admitting it.

I admit that Fan590 is no longer on my speed dial.
I admit that when I am in my car I do check both Team 1050 and Fan 590.
I admit that I am disappointed big time with Team 1050, whose coverage is marginally better but really a "lite" Fan590.
PW, I(we) also can only dream that one day we will get an all CFL/Argo station, or how about an all CFL TV channel?

[R.J]

Argotom, you claim not to listen but also claim to know that the Fan never covers the CFL except to criticize it. If all you do is "check from time to time," there is no way you could know how often, and how, they cover the CFL. Honestly, there is no shame in listening to both sports talk stations from time to time, or to admitting it.

You can easily check the lack of CFL content on fan590.com, then click the on demand link, I don't listen to the fan anymore, but I do know they barely have any cfl content.

They lost a lot of money no doubt, but I can't see it being $20 million a game. Clearly some tickets were sold at full price (we'll likely never know but I'm guessing a maximum of 25%), and some at discounted prices.

It's very hard to believe they spent $10M per game on ads and promotion. Even half that amount seems a stretch. And they probably did okay business on beer and concessions.

That's the way I see it, I think the loses per game are closer to $10 million than $20 million, they've got to make some money off of tickets, facility/convenience fess, and concessions.

[R.J]

I admit that Fan590 is no longer on my speed dial.
I admit that when I am in my car I do check both Team 1050 and Fan 590.
I admit that I am disappointed big time with Team 1050, whose coverage is marginally better but really a "lite" Fan590.
PW, I(we) also can only dream that one day we will get an all CFL/Argo station, or how about an all CFL TV channel?

I think you mean TSN 1050, it hasn't been Team 1050 since 2001-02.
BTW the last time the CFL have the CFL network the league almost collapsed.

[argotom]

I think you mean TSN 1050, it hasn't been Team 1050 since 2001-02.
BTW the last time the CFL have the CFL network the league almost collapsed.

That was in the 90's when the league was on the brink.
It was not a dedicated channel, merely the league produced and did their own telecasts of some games.
I am talking about in this era of thousands of channels, a dedicated CFL 24/7 variety.

[R.J]

That was in the 90's when the league was on the brink.
It was not a dedicated channel, merely the league produced and did their own telecasts of some games.
I am talking about in this era of thousands of channels, a dedicated CFL 24/7 variety.

You are correct it wasn't a dedicated network, the CFN used affiliate stations, point i was trying to make was making a CFL network could have a negative effect.
A CFL only radio station IMO would only be possible on SiriusXM, which would cost big $$$$.

[Hollaway]

Like with everything Rogers does, they over charge, as far as a CFL Network, or a CFL only radio station, that would be awesome.