Big win! But waters owens??

[Argoscflguy]

Well your finger nails are probably all chewed up! But we won and that's all that matters! This swayze waters kid is very shaky! And what's with butter fingers Owens?

[KCargosfan]

Well your finger nails are probably all chewed up! But we won and that's all that matters! This swayze waters kid is very shaky! And what's with butter fingers Owens?

I thought Waters was great punting. 10 punts for a 45.4 average. Yeah, he missed the field goal, but everything else looked all right. Hopefully not too many misses from him in the future.

The rest of the offense looked very tired the second half. Screw Rogers for making us play this game on 3 days rest.

[tc23]

I think his nick name is Stone Hand Owens !! I guess that y he has'nt scored a touchdown in 22 Games !!

Too Bad Buck Pierce did not play i think the game would have been a little different !!

[1argoholic]

Waters was thrown into the fire but did well. If he relaxes and just punts and kicks off he'll pin everyone deep. No returns on them tonight. He'll be ok with more practice on fieldgoals with his snapper and holder. That last Owens fumble was no yards.

I'm glad we could pull out a win with basically no practice leading into this game.

[Argoscflguy]

Not saying he did horrible, he just looked a bit shaky, but then again we just signed him! Owens looks like he just can't Waite for that ball to come that he almost takes over runs it! But other then that I thought the Argos played well, their db,s were on fire, those poor bomber receivers had no chance! And what can u say about ray, cool and calm in the pocket! A true master of offence! AARRRGGOOSSSSS!

[larz-7]

for waters first game with little to no practice time he did not bad.owens well i think he was tired and not thinking right.this was a concern from get go, playing both on offense and special teams.add in a short week.

[AngeloV]

I think his nick name is Stone Hand Owens !! I guess that y he has'nt scored a touchdown in 22 Games !!

Ummm...You do know he scored one tonight, right? And he had a few on returns last year too.

[Nob]

Owens is playing well this year, but he still needs to work on holding on to the ball.

[ArgoRavi]

Too Bad Buck Pierce did not play i think the game would have been a little different !!

I doubt that Buck would have made much difference tonight. Brink struggled but Pierce would have been killed by the Argo defence tonight.

Waters was thrown into the fire but did well. If he relaxes and just punts and kicks off he'll pin everyone deep. No returns on them tonight. He'll be ok with more practice on fieldgoals with his snapper and holder. That last Owens fumble was no yards.

I'm glad we could pull out a win with basically no practice leading into this game.

How was that Owens' "fumble" not no yards? I really can't understand that non-call. I too thought that Waters did well for his first game on only a couple of days of practice. He missed the 46 yard FG and had one poor punt but was quite good otherwise and he had to punt a lot tonight.

[LLB997]

Waters looked good i thought. solid punting and accuracy on that early field goal attempt could be attributed to neves but his distance was not an issue at all. Owens? He played well tonight. I thought that 1 return where he fumbled the punt was a situation where the ball dropped early and he had to take about 8 steps to pick it up before bouncing and then with the D literally on top of him he lost his focus. With all the crazy punt returns goin on this season i am jonzin to see Owens show what he is capable of in that aspect. But nice to see him get the TD monkey off his back.

[Will]

Both PR fumbles that Owens have had over the last few weeks were slightly similar. They were both on punts where he had to catch it on the run. The one against Hamilton he didn't fumble immediately IIRC though.

[paulwoods13]

Owens and Waters were horrible and should be cut.

[ArgoGabe22]

Owens and Waters were horrible and should be cut.

Yup totally agree, everyone who screws up deserves to get cut on the field

[Will]

Owens and Waters were horrible and should be cut.

Bit of a knee-jerk reaction there, eh Paul

[Argoscflguy]

Watching Owens play makes me nervous!!! When he touches the ball I'm thinking oh NO!!!!! Don't loose that ball!!!!!

[Invader]

You've got to admire Swaze's moxie bouncing up unscathed after being destroyed on his intended hit on the kick returner (his first kick I believe). Washington lowered his shoulder and caught Swaze right on the chin sending him into a flying somersault. He shrugged it off but you know he'll be sore today.

[mchesher03]

You've got to admire Swaze's moxie bouncing up unscathed after being destroyed on his intended hit on the kick returner (his first kick I believe). Washington lowered his shoulder and caught Swaze right on the chin sending him into a flying somersault. He shrugged it off but you know he'll be sore today.

and a great way to earn your teammates' respect in the process.

[matchuk]

owens did have butter fingers tonight but cmon, should we bring back bashir levingston or spurgeon winn? waters looked pretty good for 1 day of practice

[jerrym]

I thought Waters did a good job punting with a 45 yard average. Perhaps his one potential weakness was he was a little slow getting the punt off leaving the possibility of being blocked in the future. His field goal kicking could need some work or it might just have been nerves on his first attempt. However, if his slicing off to the side initial kick is indicative of a tendency to do that, it tends to be a habit that many kickers have found hard to overcome - a habit that has often quickly ended their careers.

[Gill The Thrill]

Yup totally agree, everyone who screws up deserves to get cut on the field

You may laugh, but Owens has made one serious error for every game this season, that does not bode well in the long term.

By the way, people do get cut in training camp because they screw up. Remember that Hewitt guy last year, Owens mistakes are no less than his this season and he was cut. Barker last season even threatened to cut Kackert on the field after a fumble and we had many yahoos on here who thought it would have been justified because he was not a fan favourite. Owens gets yardage, I'm not disputing that, but one could argue that he cost the Argos a victory in Edmonton by dropping a perfect pass in the end zone, nearly cost the team a win on Wednesday and had an error that was instrumental in the loss last Saturday to the Ticats.

You could make an argument that your effectiveness is judged not by the plays you make, but by the plays you fail to make which results in turnovers. If judging by the latter, Owens is inconsistent this year and is nowhere near the best return guy in the CFL this season....Larry Taylor and Chevon Walker are both better than him right now, so if he does not shape up and scrape the butter off his fingers, I would not be against trading him while he still has value...provided you get someone that could help immediately in return.

Cut for nothing, I don't think is a good move, but a trade to plug up a hole, or to solidify a position would not be that bad despite Primadonna Owens being a fan favourite among some.