REGULAR SEASON FINALE GAME THREAD / Week 20 / Argos @ Lions

[jerrym]

Living in Vancouver, I got to see Wilder at BC Place for the first time rather than on a broadcast. As many of you have already seen at BMO, he's even more impressive under these circumstances where you can see what he is doing throughout every play.

[AngeloV]

Living in Vancouver, I got to see Wilder at BC Place for the first time rather than on a broadcast. As many of you have already seen at BMO, he's even more impressive under these circumstances where you can see what he is doing throughout every play.

It's definitely been a pleasure to watch him do what he does.

[gilthethrill]

It's definitely been a pleasure to watch him do what he does.

Was Cory Boyd just as dominant in 2010 and 2011 as Wilder Jr is now?

[ArgoGabe22]

Was Cory Boyd just as dominant in 2010 and 2011 as Wilder Jr is now?

Wilder is much better IMO

[OV Argo]

Wilder is much better IMO

Boyd was good; i think Wilder is better too (faster for sure); but i need to see more to be sure - a full season out of Wilder playing like he has in 10 games or so this year. Sorry, but he ain't exactly Leon McQuay to me yet ;o)

[Wobbler]

... a full season out of Wilder playing like he has in 10 games or so this year.

Just six games, really. Abruptly, beginning in week 13, he has been ridiculously good. In his three previous starts in June and July he was terrible-to-decent, I'd say. Six games is a limited data set to be sure, and only two of those performances were against good teams (Edmonton was a pretty average team in mid-September)... but I've seen enough to get excited. If he stays in our league, the only reason he could *never* be the next X-Ray is that the nickname wouldn't make any sense. ;)

[AngeloV]

Was Cory Boyd just as dominant in 2010 and 2011 as Wilder Jr is now?

I liked Boyd a lot, but no chance was he the game changer that Wilder has been. Having said that, he also didn't have Ricky Ray at QB those years.

[doubleblue]

I liked Boyd a lot, but no chance was he the game changer that Wilder has been. Having said that, he also didn't have Ricky Ray at QB those years.

I don't remember Boyd fighting through tackles like Junior does and he wasn't much of a passer blocker. Maybe he didn't like the QB of the time. He wouldn't be alone if that was the case.

[Jon Gonzo]

I don't remember Boyd fighting through tackles like Junior does and he wasn't much of a passer blocker. Maybe he didn't like the QB of the time. He wouldn't be alone if that was the case.

I do. I remember him moving piles of tacklers for many extra yards. I also recall him being very emotional and as it turns out, a bit of a head case. But he was a good one, and he played his heart out, hurt. Except, he was ultimately a problem for Jim Barker. I remember how surprised the CFL world was when he was let go. As Angelo pointed out, he didn't play with Ricky Ray. He had Cleo Lemon, so that is a thing to consider. JWJ has what it takes to be better, but he hasn't surpassed him yet. Wilder is smoother, with better hands and without a doubt...is faster and in way better shape. Boyd was kind of out of shape, but was exceptionally physical. Downhill where as JWJ is upright. (;

[gilthethrill]

I do. I remember him moving piles of tacklers for many extra yards. I also recall him being very emotional and as it turns out, a bit of a head case. But he was a good one, and he played his heart out, hurt. Except, he was ultimately a problem for Jim Barker. I remember how surprised the CFL world was when he was let go. As Angelo pointed out, he didn't play with Ricky Ray. He had Cleo Lemon, so that is a thing to consider. JWJ has what it takes to be better, but he hasn't surpassed him yet. Wilder is smoother, with better hands and without a doubt...is faster and in way better shape. Boyd was kind of out of shape, but was exceptionally physical. Downhill where as JWJ is upright. (;

The reason Boyd was cut was because he was either unable or unwilling to pass protect. He was wiffing on blocking assignments and getting Ray killed.