View Poll Results: Where should the new Argonauts Stadium be located?

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  • Richmond Hill

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  • Markham

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  • Vaughan

    7 12.28%
  • Woodbine Racetrack

    4 7.02%
  • York University

    2 3.51%
  • Downsview

    13 22.81%
  • BMO Field

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    Richmond Hill is going to make a bid too: Richmond Hill makes pitch for university campus

    Among several York Region municipalities wanting campus

    http://www.yorkregion.com/news-story...ersity-campus/
    There are many places that want university and college campuses but a stadium is an entirely different matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    There are many places that want university and college campuses but a stadium is an entirely different matter.
    True but it is a good way to get government funding if you're trying to build a stadium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neely2005 View Post
    True but it is a good way to get government funding if you're trying to build a stadium.
    It is if there is a need for it but York does not require a new stadium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerkeeper View Post
    I'm still a firm believer in Downsview. I like the idea on being downtown in the Portlands, but I can't see anything happening there until the next iceage retreats. Downsview seems to be the best available spot, right at the old supply depot. It's central to pretty much everywhere, right on a GO and subway station with lots of room to park and party.
    Downsview makes the most sense to me as well. I can get on the GO for BMO or the RC no problem, but sometimes begrudge that hour both ways. It will be longer to BMO. But gone are the days of driving to the EX grounds on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon with not much traffic especially with the continual construction.
    Downsview would be the closest to how things used to be at the EX for parking etc. Why not shuttle buses for people in some of the downtown areas. It seemed to work out ok in Ottawa this year. Park at a few designated places and bus to the Stadium. I took in a game in Ottawa this year and the bus shuttle worked fine.
    But as PW says the big IF is who will fund a Stadium. The City and Province are so cash strapped even though the money wasted on the Pan Am games and other Provincial Government gaffes could have built several Stadiums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Downsview makes the most sense to me as well. I can get on the GO for BMO or the RC no problem, but sometimes begrudge that hour both ways. It will be longer to BMO. But gone are the days of driving to the EX grounds on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon with not much traffic especially with the continual construction.
    Downsview would be the closest to how things used to be at the EX for parking etc. Why not shuttle buses for people in some of the downtown areas. It seemed to work out ok in Ottawa this year. Park at a few designated places and bus to the Stadium. I took in a game in Ottawa this year and the bus shuttle worked fine.
    But as PW says the big IF is who will fund a Stadium. The City and Province are so cash strapped even though the money wasted on the Pan Am games and other Provincial Government gaffes could have built several Stadiums.
    Great idea! Whose gonna fund it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Downsview makes the most sense to me as well. I can get on the GO for BMO or the RC no problem, but sometimes begrudge that hour both ways. It will be longer to BMO. But gone are the days of driving to the EX grounds on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon with not much traffic especially with the continual construction.
    Downsview would be the closest to how things used to be at the EX for parking etc. Why not shuttle buses for people in some of the downtown areas. It seemed to work out ok in Ottawa this year. Park at a few designated places and bus to the Stadium. I took in a game in Ottawa this year and the bus shuttle worked fine.
    But as PW says the big IF is who will fund a Stadium. The City and Province are so cash strapped even though the money wasted on the Pan Am games and other Provincial Government gaffes could have built several Stadiums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fumblitis View Post
    Great idea! Whose gonna fund it?
    Perhaps the Rider fans can!..... then when there is a Rider Argo Grey Cup you could cheer for both teams!.... wonder if they would allow that....

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    This thread is like a cat chasing it's tail.

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    I WISH we had the money to build your stadium.

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    Went for a walk by the Lake this morning. Reminded me of Playoff weather at the EX. South West wind howling off the Lake feeling colder than it really was. But we will all be happy back outside at BMO. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Went for a walk by the Lake this morning. Reminded me of Playoff weather at the EX. South West wind howling off the Lake feeling colder than it really was. But we will all be happy back outside at BMO. lol
    Just like the old days when 45,000 regularly showed up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Went for a walk by the Lake this morning. Reminded me of Playoff weather at the EX. South West wind howling off the Lake feeling colder than it really was. But we will all be happy back outside at BMO. lol
    A lot happier than having no place to play at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doubleblue View Post
    Downsview makes the most sense to me as well. I can get on the GO for BMO or the RC no problem, but sometimes begrudge that hour both ways. It will be longer to BMO. But gone are the days of driving to the EX grounds on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon with not much traffic especially with the continual construction.
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    But as PW says the big IF is who will fund a Stadium. The City and Province are so cash strapped even though the money wasted on the Pan Am games and other Provincial Government gaffes could have built several Stadiums.
    One option is to build the new Argos stadium in stages, much like BMO which cost $63M to build in 2007 with 20,000 seats.

    The Argos could erect temporary grandstands around their practice field in Downsview (the site looks like it was pre-designed to accommodate grandstands). The Lions built a 27,500-seat temporary stadium for a reported $14.4 million in 2009. At least in Downsview the Fieldturf field and Argo locker rooms are already in-place, so a 20,000-seat grandstand might cost only $10 million. Then in the next year or two a permanent 12,500-seat concrete grandstand could be built on one side. Then in another year or two a permanent grandstand could be built on the other side (with private boxes, club seating, lounges, ect.) The eventual cost might total $120M (similar to Hamilton's THF construction cost) but phased in over 10 years, for example, as finances and fan interest warrant.

    Within 10 years Toronto might realize the city needs a football stadium (with RC and BMO restricted to baseball & soccer) or there could be an international sports event which would warrant the city/prov/feds investing in an outdoor stadium in Toronto. While minimalistic at first, at least the Argos would have a place to play and be in position to expand their stadium as needed.

    Of course the Argos would have to negotiate a long-term lease for the property but I believe a stadium has been pre-approved in that location (after MLSE had done preparatory work for a proposed NFL stadium there). The advantage for MLSE is added revenue, while keeping their cherished BMO a natural-grass soccer-only jewel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    One option is to build the new Argos stadium in stages, much like BMO which cost $63M to build in 2007 with 20,000 seats.

    The Argos could erect temporary grandstands around their practice field in Downsview (the site looks like it was pre-designed to accommodate grandstands). The Lions built a 27,500-seat temporary stadium for a reported $14.4 million in 2009. At least in Downsview the Fieldturf field and Argo locker rooms are already in-place, so a 20,000-seat grandstand might cost only $10 million. Then in the next year or two a permanent 12,500-seat concrete grandstand could be built on one side. Then in another year or two a permanent grandstand could be built on the other side (with private boxes, club seating, lounges, ect.) The eventual cost might total $120M (similar to Hamilton's THF construction cost) but phased in over 10 years, for example, as finances and fan interest warrant.

    Within 10 years Toronto might realize the city needs a football stadium (with RC and BMO restricted to baseball & soccer) or there could be an international sports event which would warrant the city/prov/feds investing in an outdoor stadium in Toronto. While minimalistic at first, at least the Argos would have a place to play and be in position to expand their stadium as needed.

    Of course the Argos would have to negotiate a long-term lease for the property but I believe a stadium has been pre-approved in that location (after MLSE had done preparatory work for a proposed NFL stadium there). The advantage for MLSE is added revenue, while keeping their cherished BMO a natural-grass soccer-only jewel.
    Again, who will pay for this temporary stadium at Downsview that you speak of? It won't be any level of government and it won't be David Braley. Who is left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Again, who will pay for this temporary stadium at Downsview that you speak of? It won't be any level of government and it won't be David Braley. Who is left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
    One option is to build the new Argos stadium in stages, much like BMO which cost $63M to build in 2007 with 20,000 seats.
    "The new Argo stadium." That is still as hilarious a concept now as it was the other 100 times you trumpeted it. FOI, is your hero David Braley funding the new Argo stadium?

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    I don't understand why there are discussions about the site for a stadium. There is no appetite anywhere to build another facility. Who is going to pay? The only real option is BMO field. Hopefully John Tory as Mayor (and ex-CFL commissioner) can exert some influence to sway whoever to get things moving in that direction. Otherwise, I fear the Argos will be homeless after 2017. That's if they are not killed off by indifference before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB957 View Post
    I don't understand why there are discussions about the site for a stadium. There is no appetite anywhere to build another facility. Who is going to pay? The only real option is BMO field. Hopefully John Tory as Mayor (and ex-CFL commissioner) can exert some influence to sway whoever to get things moving in that direction. Otherwise, I fear the Argos will be homeless after 2017. That's if they are not killed off by indifference before then.
    Problem is that some don't deal in reality. This thread should be called the Where should the Argos fantasy stadium be located?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Problem is that some don't deal in reality. This thread should be called the Where should the Argos fantasy stadium be located?
    Right on! Ha, ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Problem is that some don't deal in reality. This thread should be called the Where should the Argos fantasy stadium be located?
    True Angelo, here are their options, BMO Field or they fold after 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    True Angelo, here are their options, BMO Field or they fold after 2017.
    You nailed it, and whether in the padt you wanted BMO or not, now is the time to put that a side and as 1 fan base just get behind BMO and promote it to the team, the city, and other fans, in fact anyone who will listen. We want to play at BMO should be our motto for 2015. We have no choice

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