TV ratings

[Ballstothewall]

Is the World Series being simulcast though? I know that in past years, Sportsnet would use Fox's world feed while FOX would use their regular feed and these were two different things. Also, when TSN shows an NFL game as they do on Sunday and Monday nights, I don't believe that it is a simulcast. However, when CTV, CITY and, I believe, Sportsnet show their NFL games, that is a simulcast.

To me and from what I understand is this, if you are viewing Canadian TV commercials on a US feed or stations, then those viewers will be counted in Canada

[ArgoRavi]

To me and from what I understand is this, if you are viewing Canadian TV commercials on a US feed or stations, then those viewers will be counted in Canada

You are correct. BTW, I just realized that Monday night games are not simulcast as we don't get ESPN in this country so the audience is comprised of whomever is watching on TSN. The only NFL games that I don't think are simulcast are the Sunday night games as I am pretty sure that we see NBC's commercials if we are watching on there and TSN's commercials if we are watching on there. Most, if not all, other NFL games are simulcast which means that the ratings which Zelkovich publishes is an accurate count of NFL viewers in Canada. Of course, there is the NFL Sunday Ticket but I wonder how many Canadians subscribe to that. I have never seen any numbers published for that service.

[Neely2005]

You are correct. BTW, I just realized that Monday night games are not simulcast as we don't get ESPN in this country so the audience is comprised of whomever is watching on TSN. The only NFL games that I don't think are simulcast are the Sunday night games as I am pretty sure that we see NBC's commercials if we are watching on there and TSN's commercials if we are watching on there. Most, if not all, other NFL games are simulcast which means that the ratings which Zelkovich publishes is an accurate count of NFL viewers in Canada. Of course, there is the NFL Sunday Ticket but I wonder how many Canadians subscribe to that. I have never seen any numbers published for that service.

If a game is being broadcast on Any Canadian channel it will be blacked out on NFL Sunday Ticket. I experience this all the time with my NHL Center Ice package.

[Neely2005]

LOUSY TV NUMBERS FOR RAPTORS

The Toronto Raptors opened their season Wednesday night with a win, some glitz and terribly troubling television ratings.

Playing opposite the Maple Leafs and the last night of the World Series, the Raptors had an audience of only 54,000 on TSN2. That has to be alarming to new MLSE boss Tim Leiweke, who has talked about making the Raptors Canada's team.

By any comparison, even considering the difficult circumstances, and the fact they weren't on a mainstream network, the Raptors TV numbers border on embarrassing.

The Maple Leafs season opener drew an average audience of 2.3 million on CBC.

The Blue Jays season opener in April did a 1.4 million number on Rogers Sportsnet and at times throughout the night had more than two milion people watching.

The sometimes forgotten Argonauts played their season opener against the Hamilton Tiger-Cats. The TSN numbers for that game: 673,000.

The Raptors opening night did less than one-twelfth of the Argo audience. It will be interesting to monitor the television numbers as the season progresses -- not opposite Leaf games or other sports of consequence. Finding out exactly where the Raptors stand across Canada may be shocking to those who operate the NBA club.

RATINGS GAME

Here's a look at the ratings of Toronto sports teams on opening night this season, with networks and number of viewers.

Leafs CBC 2.3 million
Jays Sportsnet 1.4 mil
Argos TSN 673,000
Raptors TSN2 54,000
*television numbers come from network PR departments

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/11/02...ries-this-week

[ArgoZ]

I was one of the 54 000! The Raptors get low tv numbers, but seem to always be discussed on the radio. Argos get decent tv numbers, but hardly any radio time. Raptors have good attendance and command some steep prices for Miami games. Argos have low attendance and always affordable tickets.

[Argo57]

I was one of the 54 000! The Raptors get low tv numbers, but seem to always be discussed on the radio. Argos get decent tv numbers, but hardly any radio time. Raptors have good attendance and command some steep prices for Miami games. Argos have low attendance and always affordable tickets.

Maybe it all comes back to the facility (Skydome) and lack of atmosphere at the live event, smaller more intimate venue lively atmosphere= better game experience....more repeat customers.

[ArgoRavi]

Maybe it all comes back to the facility (Skydome) and lack of atmosphere at the live event, smaller more intimate venue lively atmosphere= better game experience....more repeat customers.

Another factor is playing only American-based opponents vs. playing only Canadian-based opposition.

[argotom]

I was one of the 54 000! The Raptors get low tv numbers, but seem to always be discussed on the radio. Argos get decent tv numbers, but hardly any radio time. Raptors have good attendance and command some steep prices for Miami games. Argos have low attendance and always affordable tickets.

Raptors in Canada and on TV is a joke. The team has been force fed to the population from the very beginning to include buying tickets when MLSE has to blackmail its Leaf fan base to also buy for basketball. On radio again, the program directors for the various Toronto station have obviously been ordered to talk crap basketball when only friends and family care, this all at the expense to the Argos and CFL which remains the second most popular sport in the country and garnering absolutely no respect here.

[ArgoZ]

Raptors in Canada and on TV is a joke. The team has been force fed to the population from the very beginning to include buying tickets when MLSE has to blackmail its Leaf fan base to also buy for basketball. On radio again, the program directors for the various Toronto station have obviously been ordered to talk crap basketball when only friends and family care, this all at the expense to the Argos and CFL which remains the second most popular sport in the country and garnering absolutely no respect here.

It seems like the Raptors owners have created a business model that works despite lack of fans. I wonder what an owner like that could do for the Argos? What would your reply be if I said, the Argos are a joke, it's crap football and only friends and family care?

[Ballstothewall]

I was one of the 54 000! The Raptors get low tv numbers, but seem to always be discussed on the radio. Argos get decent tv numbers, but hardly any radio time. Raptors have good attendance and command some steep prices for Miami games. Argos have low attendance and always affordable tickets.

How do you figure the Raptors have good attendance number. They officially quote 16,000 and change for ther posted attendance aver. This is for a 19,000 and change building. Take away Leaf season ticket holders and there in trouble. I have been to Raptor games, were whole sections are empty, only to claim 16,500. Real number would be closer to 10,000. Media does not comment on the fake attandance numbers for Raptors or TFC game, due to them being owned by MLSE. No sports editor wants his/her reporter to get there access to the Leafs cut off.

[ArgoZ]

How do you figure the Raptors have good attendance number. They officially quote 16,000 and change for ther posted attendance aver. This is for a 19,000 and change building. Take away Leaf season ticket holders and there in trouble. I have been to Raptor games, were whole sections are empty, only to claim 16,500. Real number would be closer to 10,000. Media does not comment on the fake attandance numbers for Raptors or TFC game, due to them being owned by MLSE. No sports editor wants his/her reporter to get there access to the Leafs cut off.

Ok, as someone who attended many Raps games last year, I must call you out on your unfounded claims. Despite having a bad record, they were near the top attendance wise in the NBA. The people are there, it doesn't matter where they got tickets, they attended. The games constantly have over 16 000 and it is a very full place. Only the top corners will sometimes be missing fans, hardly whole sections.

What is with the hate on for other Toronto teams by some members? It's ok to like TFC, Raptors, whoever, and like Argos too. Sheesh.

My response would be that the TV ratings show that you're wrong.

Excellent response! I appreciate a fact based reply, rather than the put downs or trashing of another franchise or sport.

Yes 100% and for years as well. On top of which, our TV numbers are a close second overall to the NHL.

ArgoTom. Anyone can take unfounded shots at a team or sport. I didn't appreciate you calling the Raps a joke, crap basketball and only family and friends following. It's just as easy, maybe easier for people to say that about our Argos, and I would defend them too.

[Neely2005]

18% from what? Do they provide numbers for Southern Ontario?

CFL ratings up due to Southern Ontario:

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh-...183017606.html

At an average of 703,000 viewers a game, the CFL stands second only to hockey as this country's most-watched sport. They're ahead of the Toronto Blue Jays' 540,000, a comparable number since the Jays generally play six games a week while the CFL offers up four.


Combined ratings on TSN and French-language RDS averaged 758,000 viewers per game, an increase of 3.6 per cent over 2012. The RDS numbers are down a tad, but considering how far the Montreal Alouettes have fallen there's no real surprise there.


But while overall ratings increases give the league something to crow about, that's not the real big news. The big news is that they're being driven by the most unlikely source of all: Southern Ontario. Ratings for games involving the Toronto Argonauts were up 26 per cent from last year while audiences for Hamilton (Guelph) Tiger-Cats games rose 14 per cent.
Ratings for all CFL games were up 18 per cent from last year in Southern Ontario and the Hamilton-Toronto clash on Thanksgiving Day drew the league's fourth-largest TV audience of the season with 956,000 viewers.

[Neely2005]

Ratings on #TSN for @BCLions vs @sskroughriders game - 1,621,000, up 5% from 2012.
Audience peaked late in 4th at 2,441,000 #GCPlayoffs #CFL

Ratings on #TSN & #RDS for @MTLAlouettes vs @Ticats was 1,417,000, up 12.4% from '12.
Audience peaked at 2,256,000 in OT #CFL #GCPlayoffs

https://mobile.twitter.com/CFL_PR/st...93038952890368

https://mobile.twitter.com/CFL_PR/st...92995860631552

[Neely2005]

Eastern Final
The Eastern Final featuring Hamilton @ Toronto attracted an average audience of 1.7 million viewers on TSN – making it the most-watched Eastern Final ever on English television. Audiences for the all-Ontario matchup were up 21% compared to last year's average audience of 1.4 million viewers on TSN.

Audience levels peaked at 3.1 million viewers on TSN late in the game as the Tiger-Cats held on to defeat the Toronto Argonauts 24-17.

Western Final
The Western Final featuring Saskatchewan @ Calgary was watched by an average audience of 1.9 million viewers on TSN, up 2% compared to last year's Western Final.

Audience levels peaked at 2.7 million on TSN in the fourth quarter of the game as the Saskatchewan Roughriders completed a 35-13 upset of the Calgary Stampeders.


http://www.tsn.ca/cfl/story/?id=436925

[Neely2005]

Grey Cup ratings reveal game was most-watched sports program of 2013


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle15596026/

[ArgoRavi]

Grey Cup ratings reveal game was most-watched sports program of 2013


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ticle15596026/

Solid ratings but they would have been better with a closer game. Still though, this was probably in the top 10 or 12 Grey Cups of all time.

[bluto]

Solid ratings but they would have been better with a closer game. Still though, this was probably in the top 10 or 12 Grey Cups of all time.

it was a blowout at halftime... but so was the previous Grey Cup... which garnered the highest ever ratings (5.4M vs 4.5M this year).

this was a National Event made Local. all of the contests were from local companies and awarded to local winners... no national brands.

shame on the CFL for awarding the game to a city which simply can't support an event of this magnitude.

...and over on RF they want to have their club bid for the 2018 game...

[Neely2005]

Some preseason TV Ratings:

17. CFL, Blue Bombers at Stampeders, Saturday, TSN2: 332,000
18. CFL, RedBlacks at Roughriders, Saturday, TSN2: 288,000
21. CFL, Lions at Eskimos, Friday, TSN: 197,000

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh...150659421.html

[Neely2005]

12. CFL

Stampeders at Lions

Friday

TSN

444,000

15. CFL

Redblacks at Alouettes

Friday

TSN

268,000

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh...183205487.html

[Neely2005]

"I was being interviewed about the wide world of sports media on a radio show last week when I was asked a question I've heard dozens of times: Why does the CFL insist on going head-to-head with the NFL?

My answer, which is basically the same answer I've been giving for years, is that Sunday is a good day to draw people to a stadium and despite the relatively big TV contract the CFL is still a gate-driven league. Secondly, the CFL has nothing to fear from the NFL when it comes to drawing TV viewers.

That certainly was borne out by the ratings from last Sunday. The 4 p.m. CFL game between Saskatchewan and WInnipeg averaged 1.1 million viewers on TSN. The 4 p.m. NFL game between San Francisco and Dallas averaged 683,000 viewers... "

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/eh...193422068.html

Here are the most-watched sports events on English-language television for the past weekend, according to BBM Canada overnight ratings:

1. CFL, Roughriders at Blue Bombers, Sunday, TSN: 1,107,000

2. MLB, Blue Jays at Red Sox, Friday, Sportsnet: 821,000

3. CFL, Stampeders at Eskimos, Saturday, TSN: 753,000

4. NFL, 49ers at Cowboys, Sunday, CTV: 683,000

5. CFL, Lions at RedBlacks, Friday, TSN: 668,000

6. NFL, Early games, Sunday, CTV: 601,000

7. NFL, Colts at Broncos, Sunday, CTV: 595,000 (NBC viewers not measured)

8. MLB, Blue Jays at Red Sox, Saturday, Sportsnet: 528,000

9. NFL, Giants at Lions, Monday, TSN: 495,000

10. NFL, Chargers at Cardinals, Monday, TSN: 430,000

11. CFL, Ticats at Alouettes, Sunday, TSN: 413,000 (RDS viewers not measured)

12. MLB, Blue Jays at Red Sox, Sunday, Sportsnet: 346,000

13. PGA, BMW Championship final round, Sunday, Global: 305,000

14. PGA, BMW Championship third round, Saturday, Global: 273,000

15. Tennis, U.S. Open men's semifinal, Sunday, TSN2: 208,000 (CBS viewers not measured)

16. Auto racing, NASCAR Sprint Cup, Saturday, TSN2: 192,000 (Fox viewers not measured)

16. NFL, Patriots at Dolphins, Sunday, TSN2: 192,000 (CBS viewers not measured)

18. Auto racing, F1 Italian Grand Prix, Sunday, TSN: 170,000

19. MLS, D.C. United at Whitecaps, Saturday, TSN: 168,000

20. Tennis, U.S. Open women's final, Sunday, TSN2: 138,000* (CBS audience not measured)

21. Equestrian, Spruce Meadows Grand Slam, Saturday, CBC: 126,000