Popp/Chamblin Staying or Going?

[AngeloV]

Let's just change the coach and GM combination every year. Let's see how much that improves things.

[Will]

Let's just change the coach and GM combination every year. Let's see how much that improves things.

Yes, you can argue that Chamblin doesn't have the personnel, but I don't see how you can excuse the mind-boggling in-game decisions. It's happened more than once.

[AngeloV]

Yes, you can argue that Chamblin doesn't have the personnel, but I don't see how you can excuse the mind-boggling in-game decisions. It's happened more than once.

I agree, and I was very vocal about it. Having said that, (and I know he made some strange calls on 3rd down last game), he has been much better overall in the 2nd third of the season where the team easily could have (should have?) been 4-2 in as opposed to the 2-4 record they had. The first third was a disaster, no doubt about it. Sometimes teams need to learn how to win. I want to see how he finishes the season before even debating if the team really needs to change coach and/or GM. Starting over every year to me is not the way to go.

[paulwoods13]

There are other options beyond firing the GM and HC, like changing up assistant coaches, getting a FT DC to ensure the HC is not spread too thin, etc. I felt earlier this year that the entire coaching staff was unlikely to return, but I'm far less sure about that now. I think Chamblin (and Popp, for that matter) are more likely to be back than be jettisoned.

[paulwoods13]

It's also worth noting (again) that Bill Manning spent four years working in the front office of the Philadelphia Eagles. (Not that football experience matters a great deal at the CEO level, IMO.) Manning has also worked for the NBA's Houston Rockets and for two MLS teams including TFC. He has close to two decades' experience in professional sports mgmt.

[gilthethrill]

It's also worth noting (again) that Bill Manning spent four years working in the front office of the Philadelphia Eagles. (Not that football experience matters a great deal at the CEO level, IMO.) Manning has also worked for the NBA's Houston Rockets and for two MLS teams including TFC. He has close to two decades' experience in professional sports mgmt.

In defence of Manning, is it not a lot to ask a guy to be President of 2 sport franchises? Could that not lead to burnout?

[Argofan_1000]

In defence of Manning, is it not a lot to ask a guy to be President of 2 sport franchises? Could that not lead to burnout?

3down is saying Manning asked Pinball to work with the Argos . This posted today.
https://3downnation.com/2019/09/24/m...rgos-recently/

[Argo57]

Let's just change the coach and GM combination every year. Let's see how much that improves things.

This is a tough one Angelo, I understand your sentiment but attendance numbers are dropping and apathy seems to be setting in so keeping the status quo may be a difficult sell to this fan base.

[Blue90]

Let's just change the coach and GM combination every year. Let's see how much that improves things.

How has the coaching done this year? Any positive things you have seen in the team this year?

[ArgoZ]

I agree, and I was very vocal about it. Having said that, (and I know he made some strange calls on 3rd down last game), he has been much better overall in the 2nd third of the season where the team easily could have (should have?) been 4-2 in as opposed to the 2-4 record they had. The first third was a disaster, no doubt about it. Sometimes teams need to learn how to win. I want to see how he finishes the season before even debating if the team really needs to change coach and/or GM. Starting over every year to me is not the way to go.

There are other options beyond firing the GM and HC, like changing up assistant coaches, getting a FT DC to ensure the HC is not spread too thin, etc. I felt earlier this year that the entire coaching staff was unlikely to return, but I'm far less sure about that now. I think Chamblin (and Popp, for that matter) are more likely to be back than be jettisoned.

You guys are way to positive, nice and patient. Chamblin is over his head. We see it every week. There’s no way he’s back in any competent franchise. I don’t think he’s improved at all. I foresee more bonehead calls to finish the season. This franchise can’t afford this. Popp on an interim basis would be better, he’s on the sidelines anyway (another issue).

[Neely2005]

Around the 3 Minute Mark:

https://post.futurimedia.com/chumam/...9329467.670505

Sounds like Popp is gone but Chamblin is staying?

[Nob]

The team is 6 - 24 in their last 30 games. The Grey Cup season before all of that was a 9-9 season, with a strong finish. It seems like forever ago since we had a team with a winning record that was worth getting excited about.

With Popp's contract expiring it's not really a ringing endorsement for an extension. Yes, he was a legend in Montreal, but those days seem like a long time ago (and one can debate how good he was, versus how fortunate he was to have HOF QB's).

Chamblin's in-game decisions have been puzzling, absurd, and obscure (and well dissected on this board). Plus the end of his HC days in Saskatchewan weren't impressive either. The bottom line is he may not be HC material.

I have never been a Chapdelaine fan. Ever. If he fell out of the organization it wouldn't bother me.

I hear the cry of "we can't change the GM and HC every year", but can they really go forward with this braintrust and expect fans to believe that things will be better??? Let alone bring in new people to games?

The die-hard fans are doing exactly that. At this rate they will all be killed off by this team, and then what's left?

[Shatto]

The team deserves a president who is fully committed to the sole priority of making the Argos a success. Though not everyone agrees , it would be a huge advantage the have a knowledgeable and experienced CFL individual , devoted to and evaluated on, only one thing ---the success of the Argos.

Though the CEO does not get involved in everyday football decisions, it is the CEO who selects the people who do make those decisions. The role of a CEO includes setting the vision for the organization and most importantly selecting the right people to make that vision a reality. If Manning does have a vision for the team, it certainly has not been communicated to the media or fans. If either or both of Chamblin and Popp are replaced, hopefully a new and more CFL experienced president will make the decision.

The success of any organizations starts at the top ---that is why the person at the top gets the big bucks. Manning has to take responsibility for the team's lack of success not only on the field but also at the gate. The team deserves more than a part time CEO, especially one with very limited background in our game.

[paulwoods13]

In defence of Manning, is it not a lot to ask a guy to be President of 2 sport franchises? Could that not lead to burnout?

Burnout is possible in any number of positions; some individuals have more capacity than others. I doubt Manning has significantly greater workload or feels significantly greater pressure than the presidents of the Leafs or Raptors do.

[paulwoods13]

You guys are way to positive, nice and patient. Chamblin is over his head. We see it every week. There’s no way he’s back in any competent franchise. I don’t think he’s improved at all. I foresee more bonehead calls to finish the season. This franchise can’t afford this. Popp on an interim basis would be better, he’s on the sidelines anyway (another issue).

For the record, my comment -- There are other options beyond firing the GM and HC, like changing up assistant coaches, getting a FT DC to ensure the HC is not spread too thin, etc. I felt earlier this year that the entire coaching staff was unlikely to return, but I'm far less sure about that now. I think Chamblin (and Popp, for that matter) are more likely to be back than be jettisoned. -- was not an opinion about what should happen, it was a statement about what could happen.

[paulwoods13]

The team deserves a president who is fully committed to the sole priority of making the Argos a success. Though not everyone agrees , it would be a huge advantage the have a knowledgeable and experienced CFL individual , devoted to and evaluated on, only one thing ---the success of the Argos.

Though the CEO does not get involved in everyday football decisions, it is the CEO who selects the people who do make those decisions. The role of a CEO includes setting the vision for the organization and most importantly selecting the right people to make that vision a reality. If Manning does have a vision for the team, it certainly has not been communicated to the media or fans. If either or both of Chamblin and Popp are replaced, hopefully a new and more CFL experienced president will make the decision.

The success of any organizations starts at the top ---that is why the person at the top gets the big bucks. Manning has to take responsibility for the team's lack of success not only on the field but also at the gate. The team deserves more than a part time CEO, especially one with very limited background in our game.

There would be no downside to having a full-time CEO, but there's no reason to believe MLSE is going to appoint one. The Argos and TFC are much smaller entities within MLSE than the Leafs and Raptors, and in the Argos' case at least (and very likely TFC's as well) are money-losing entities. From a purely business standpoint I can see why MLSE would decide to split the roles. Maybe this will change at some point, but I don't expect that to happen in the foreseeable future. As long as the two teams share a CEO, it's not realistic to expect one who does not have a background in one of the two sports. Manning has worked (before MLSE) in both soccer and football, so it's not surprising that he is the CEO charged with shared responsibility for both the Argos and TFC.

[Shatto]

I don't think it is just semantics, when I prefer the concept of there being a potential huge upside in having a new CEO. Fully agree that MLSE is unlikely to appoint one, however.

The blame for the present untenable situation falls more on MLSE than Manning. After all, it was their decision to appoint a president with little knowledge and/or understanding of the CFL. It was their decision to appoint a part time Argo CEO, rather than one fully and solely committed to making the Argos a success. Manning is hardly to blame for MLSE's poor decision.

[Argo57]

Around the 3 Minute Mark:

https://post.futurimedia.com/chumam/...9329467.670505

Sounds like Popp is gone but Chamblin is staying?

What I heard is ownership will re-evaluate the Argos top to bottom, which is what you expect Manning to say.

[1971GreyCup]

Am I missing something, but the Argos organizational chart vs. Ticats organizational chart is startling thin. And the Argos President is part time?

Caretaker
Bob Young

Chief Executive Officer
Scott Mitchell

Executive Vice President
Doug Rye

President & COO of Business Operations
Matt Afinec
mafinec@ticats.ca
Vice President, Business Operations
Shaun Guest
sguest@ticats.ca
Vice Chairman
Glenn Gibson
ggibson@ticats.ca

Ticket Sales & Corporate Partnerships
Director, Corporate Partnerships
Kyle Lohnes
klohnes@ticats.ca
Director, Business Development
Will Kay
wkay@ticats.ca
Director, Client Retention & Group Sales
Nicole Demers
ndemers@ticats.ca
Manager, Premium Seating Services & Events
Lyndsay Boyd
lboyd@ticats.ca
Manager, Corporate Partnerships
Mike Ecclestone
mecclestone@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Client Service
Emily Smith
esmith@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Taylor Spilak
tspilak@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Jacob Wilson
jwilson@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Katie Pratt
kpratt@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Jesse Bonnar
jbonnar@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Chris De Sousa
cdesousa@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Alanna Irvine
airvine@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Spencer Walker
swalker@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Tyler MacKillop
tmackillop@ticats.ca
Account Executive, Ticket Sales & Service
Luke Vermeer
lvermeer@ticats.ca

Ticket Operations
Director, Data Analytics & Business Intelligence
Jonathan Prinsell
jprinsell@ticats.ca
Manager, Ticket Operations & Data Analytics
Anthony Mancuso
amancuso@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Ticket Operations
Spencer Matson
smatson@ticats.ca

Marketing, Content & Gameday
Director, Marketing & Digital
Mike Hardill
mhardill@ticats.ca
Director, Game Production & Events
Seth Strankman
sstrankman@ticats.ca
Manager, Creative Services
Michelle Rechkemmer
mrechkemmer@ticats.ca
Manager, Game Production & Events
Alex Bruno
abruno@ticats.ca
Senior Coordinator, Marketing & Fan Communications
Sophie Kargl
skargl@ticats.ca
Senior Coordinator, Social Media & Digital Content
Ryan Scarfone
rscarfone@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Graphic Design
Daniel Ventresca
dventresca@ticats.ca
Producer, Video & Motion Graphics
Corey Nusca
cnusca@ticats.ca
Producer, Video & Motion Graphics
Zakk Di Sabatino
zdisabatino@ticats.ca

Communications & Community
Director, Communications
Aaron Gogishvili
agogishvili@ticats.ca
Director, Community Development
Kevin Matchett
kmatchett@ticats.ca
Manager, Community & Events
Samantha Brewer
sbrewer@ticats.ca
Communications Specialist
Jacob Wolfenden
jwolfenden@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Amateur Football
Alec Robertson
arobertson@ticats.ca

Retail Operations & Tiger-Cats Shop
Manager, Retail Operations
Kevin Jaggard
kjaggard@ticats.ca
Retail Sales Lead
Denise Bradshaw
dbradshaw@ticats.ca
Warehouse/Online Lead
Adam Barnes
abarnes@ticats.ca

Tim Hortons Field
Senior Director, Stadium Events & Operations
Gerry Fonzo
gfonzo@ticats.ca
Director, Fan Relations
Mark McGinley
mmcginley@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Guest Experience
Jonathan Hanley
jhanley@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Stadium Events & Operations
Bryan Chatten
bchatten@ticats.ca
Coordinator, Stadium Events & Operations
Darren Ross
dross@ticats.ca
Director, Security
Kevin Beda


Finance & Administration
Vice President, Finance & Administration
Dan Deighton

Senior Accountant
Casey Mitropoulos

Accountant
Ryan Fearnside

Information Technology Coordinator
Evan Caswell



ARGOS

President
Bill Manning

General Manager
Jim Popp

Director, Canadian Scouting
Vince Magri
Director of Player Personnel
John Murphy

Player Relations Advisor and Football Ops Assistant
Matt Black

Coordinator of Logistics
Alex Russell

Scout
Justin Casey
Scout
Rudy Jacobs

Director of Video
Jon Magri

Video Assistant & Scout
Timur Malik

Asst to the G.M.
Stacey Wilson

COMMUNICATIONS

Manager, Football Media
Chris Balenovich
Manager, Communication
Mike Hogan

[1971GreyCup]

And by the way I could care less for comparisons with the other MLSE properties. And I thought David Braley was cheap!