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[OV Argo]

M. Betts off to a great start as a pass rusher / sacker. Living up to his resume - most decorated DE in Canadian college ball history likely.

Suitor on TSN making it sound like he is another Brent Johnson - who according to good old Suits - was the guy who broke the mold and made GOBs realize Canadians can play DE? Now maybe Suits is talking about a very specific CFL period, or his own time in the league, but if he thinks Johnson was the first real successful Canadian DE, he is clueless. Ever heard of Jim Corrgial there Suits? or how bout Wayne Smith who terrorized QBs for Ottawa and later the Argos? Bill the Undertaker Baker; Jim Piaskoski, Kent Warnock, Leroy Blugh ... lots of 'em

[ArgoRavi]

M. Betts off to a great start as a pass rusher / sacker. Living up to his resume - most decorated DE in Canadian college ball history likely.

Suitor on TSN making it sound like he is another Brent Johnson - who according to good old Suits - was the guy who broke the mold and made GOBs realize Canadians can play DE? Now maybe Suits is talking about a very specific CFL period, or his own time in the league, but if he thinks Johnson was the first real successful Canadian DE, he is clueless. Ever heard of Jim Corrgial there Suits? or how bout Wayne Smith who terrorized QBs for Ottawa and later the Argos? Bill the Undertaker Baker; Jim Piaskoski, Kent Warnock, Leroy Blugh ... lots of 'em

Agreed, OV. I had the same thoughts as you when I heard Suitor say that.

[argolio]

Agreed, OV. I had the same thoughts as you when I heard Suitor say that.

Maybe Suitor meant that as Betts being a rush end, a specialized position which didn't exist pre-James Parker.

[ArgoRavi]

Maybe Suitor meant that as Betts being a rush end, a specialized position which didn't exist pre-James Parker.

That would make more sense.

[OV Argo]

That would make more sense.

The term rush end is ill defined anyways? What does it mean ?

[argolio]

The term rush end is ill defined anyways? What does it mean ?

A quicker, often smaller, sometimes shorter pass-rush specialist who relies mainly on speed and typically lines up just outside the tackle (usually RT more than LT) on obvious passing downs. The better ones also contribute to stopping the run. Down south they call it an edge rusher.

[OV Argo]

A quicker, often smaller, sometimes shorter pass-rush specialist who relies mainly on speed and typically lines up just outside the tackle (usually RT more than LT) on obvious passing downs. The better ones also contribute to stopping the run. Down south they call it an edge rusher.

Suitor mentioned Brent Johnson for comparison who was a big-sized, regular old defensive end.

They call pass rush specialist "edge rushers" OLBs now often in the NFL; guy has very little traditional linebacker duties.

Joe Montford might have been the prototype CFL "rush end" - small by DE standards but powerful, strong and quick; Betts is quite a bit bigger at 250 range.

It's all still DE to me; unless a team deploys a small, speed rusher just for certain situations.

[Argo57]

A quicker, often smaller, sometimes shorter pass-rush specialist who relies mainly on speed and typically lines up just outside the tackle (usually RT more than LT) on obvious passing downs. The better ones also contribute to stopping the run. Down south they call it an edge rusher.

James “Quick” Parker immediately comes to mind.

[jerrym]

M. Betts off to a great start as a pass rusher / sacker. Living up to his resume - most decorated DE in Canadian college ball history likely.

Suitor on TSN making it sound like he is another Brent Johnson - who according to good old Suits - was the guy who broke the mold and made GOBs realize Canadians can play DE? Now maybe Suits is talking about a very specific CFL period, or his own time in the league, but if he thinks Johnson was the first real successful Canadian DE, he is clueless. Ever heard of Jim Corrgial there Suits? or how bout Wayne Smith who terrorized QBs for Ottawa and later the Argos? Bill the Undertaker Baker; Jim Piaskoski, Kent Warnock, Leroy Blugh ... lots of 'em

Love your post.