Canada - USA - Mexico win 2026 world cup bid

[1971GreyCup]

Who would build a new sports stadium in Toronto?
And for what purpose? 3 soccer matches?

Russia built 12 (?) stadia for 80 games. I don’t know the funding model, or if FIFA share the billions to the host cities. Can anyone enlighten us?

FIFA won’t be playing World Cup matches in temporary facilities. I suspect a new build in the parking lot south of BMO Field makes more sense. Or TFC and the Argos play on the road for a couple of seasons.

Olympic and World Cup games, rightly or wrongly, are always sold to the public on the value added infrastructure that is left behind.

[argolio]

Russia built 12 (?) stadia for 80 games. I don’t know the funding model, or if FIFA share the billions to the host cities. Can anyone enlighten us?

FIFA won’t be playing World Cup matches in temporary facilities. I suspect a new build in the parking lot south of BMO Field makes more sense. Or TFC and the Argos play on the road for a couple of seasons.

Olympic and World Cup games, rightly or wrongly, are always sold to the public on the value added infrastructure that is left behind.

Those Russian stadiums will be used by Russian club teams. Plus they've got an authouritarian leader who has the power to spend however much he wants on whatever he wants.

Canada is getting nothing after the round of 16, and I bet Toronto only gets group games, so FIFA can probably live with temporary seats for that.

[PullTogether73]

Russia built 12 (?) stadia for 80 games. I don’t know the funding model, or if FIFA share the billions to the host cities. Can anyone enlighten us?

FIFA won’t be playing World Cup matches in temporary facilities. I suspect a new build in the parking lot south of BMO Field makes more sense. Or TFC and the Argos play on the road for a couple of seasons.

Olympic and World Cup games, rightly or wrongly, are always sold to the public on the value added infrastructure that is left behind.

Those Russian stadiums will be used by Russian club teams. Plus they've got an authouritarian leader who has the power to spend however much he wants on whatever he wants.

Canada is getting nothing after the round of 16, and I bet Toronto only gets group games, so FIFA can probably live with temporary seats for that.

Agreed that Olympic/World Cup games are sold on their lasting infrastructure development in addition to the immediate $ influx during the games.
But recent experience has shown that this is largely a fallacy in practice.
Ask the Greek government about the long term infrastructure uses after they last hosted the Olympics. My understanding is that most are on their way to becoming ruins like the Acropolis!
Russia invested heavily in the Sochi Olympics. The ski events apparently were held on facilities built below the frost line, leaving no use for their intended purpose after the Olympics.

IMO the costs of hosting these events far outweighs the benefits, and I see little value in being involved other than some short term chest pumping marketing benefit.
If it results in long term improvements to BMO Field, as an Argos STH I would welcome that, but not at any exorbitant cost to the city (and how my tax dollars are spent).

[Flutie]

Agreed that Olympic/World Cup games are sold on their lasting infrastructure development in addition to the immediate $ influx during the games.
But recent experience has shown that this is largely a fallacy in practice.
Ask the Greek government about the long term infrastructure uses after they last hosted the Olympics. My understanding is that most are on their way to becoming ruins like the Acropolis!
Russia invested heavily in the Sochi Olympics. The ski events apparently were held on facilities built below the frost line, leaving no use for their intended purpose after the Olympics.

IMO the costs of hosting these events far outweighs the benefits, and I see little value in being involved other than some short term chest pumping marketing benefit.
If it results in long term improvements to BMO Field, as an Argos STH I would welcome that, but not at any exorbitant cost to the city (and how my tax dollars are spent).

We don't know the details yet but if the feds/province have stated $35 Million towards the upgrade then maybe MLSE will put up money towards the upgrade.
MLSE has already spent $100 Million on BMO. If they could match that funding the end zone seats could be permanent, re-build the west side with an upper deck. They could be then thinking about the NFL.
Upgrade to Lamport for the Argos

[rdavies]

We don't know the details yet but if the feds/province have stated $35 Million towards the upgrade then maybe MLSE will put up money towards the upgrade.
MLSE has already spent $100 Million on BMO. If they could match that funding the end zone seats could be permanent, re-build the west side with an upper deck. They could be then thinking about the NFL.
Upgrade to Lamport for the Argos

There won't be any NFL coming to Toronto any time soon without a non corporation willing to put up at the very least 2 billion dollars. Not a good time to get an ROI on that.

If it ever came it would likely kill the Argos and slowly throttle Flutie's TFC of publicity and they would start to wither and look more bush league than they are now. The NFL would never go to BMO unless it was totally transformed to 65k seats which would be highly unrealistic and would drive TFC fans totally round the twist because they would be a total after thought in that venue. You couldn't get 65k people in Toronto to go see second rate soccer on a regular basis. As for Argos going to Lamport that would have to be 20k seats at least.

[Flutie]

There won't be any NFL coming to Toronto any time soon without a non corporation willing to put up at the very least 2 billion dollars. Not a good time to get an ROI on that.

If it ever came it would likely kill the Argos and slowly throttle Flutie's TFC of publicity and they would start to wither and look more bush league than they are now. The NFL would never go to BMO unless it was totally transformed to 65k seats which would be highly unrealistic and would drive TFC fans totally round the twist because they would be a total after thought in that venue. As for Argos going to Lamport that would have to be 20k seats at least.

LOL - thought that would get the expected reaction.
But who knows what will happen by 2026 but having a few World Cup games with little cost to taxpayers is great for the city. Thousands of foreign visitors.

[rdavies]

LOL - thought that would get the expected reaction.
But who knows what will happen by 2026 but having a few World Cup games with little cost to taxpayers is great for the city. Thousands of foreign visitors.

Expected reaction? You were trying to get a response? Sounds like the T word. : )