Well said by both of you! It would be interesting to see the relationship between performance in Week 1 and performance in Week 18 and beyond over the past decade. I suspect that the relationship would not be a terribly strong one. Again, Edmonton looked horrible in Week 1 last year.
Cameron Dukes + Dan Adeboboye + Kevin Mital + David Ungerer + Damonte Coxie + DaVaris Daniels + Dejon Brissett = Unstoppable Force
If Milanovich is basically a .500 coach, so is Kent Austin. Austin is 10-8, 9-9, 10-8 in Hamilton. Over the same period Milanovich is 11-7, 8-10, 10-8. Austin has won four playoff games and lost three over that span. Milanovich is 0-2. So overall records since 2013: Austin 33-28 (.541), Milanovich 29-27 (.518).
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I think Stubler isn't getting the same response, because it's Stubler, one of the best defensive minds in the CFL and his record speaks for itself. Stubler is much better than Creehan and it's only week 2 (now) for him and his players - new system and some rookies. The problem with Milanovich is that it's always the same old with him - slow starts and checkdown heavy offense. Milanovich has been here since 2012; he's not new to the team or the majority of the players. His system has been the same essentially since the beginning and hasn't won a playoff game since the Grey Cup in 2012. It is only week 2 though, so patience is probably needed, but tbh I've lost all patience with Milanovich and his checkdown heavy offense.
As for who we could have had besides Milanovich - Benevides was available all of last season, and he could have brought in Chapdelaine to run the offense this season. Bene as HC, Chaps a OC, Stubs as DC and McDiarmid as ST coordinator would have been my selections.
I wouldn't send Benevides for a loaf of bread. He never ever excelled at anything when he got the HC job in BC he was hired as Buono could coach through him and look where that went.chapdelaine on the other hand is an innovative offensive coordinator and you see his plays being run by all cfl teams .
I agree. We still don't know for sure how the young guys will do if Ray goes down, but I for one was convinced Harris was not the future of the Argos. Good back up and insurance policy (Hey, he might be Kevin Glenn II), but he obviously had no interest in being the back up here.
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Harris saw the writing on the wall when Milanvocih decided to start a less than 100% Ricky Ray (80% at best according to Ray) over Harris to end the season and lone playoff game. I still don't understand why Barker is blamed for Harris wanting to go elsewhere. I was never sold on Harris; although, I do think he can be an above average QB. In saying that how is the near term future a concern, but 2012, 13, 14, and 15 weren't ? What exactly did Collaros and Harris do before they got their starts ?
How about we wait and see what Kilgore and Fajardo can do before being concerned about it.
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It's not just the backups, I have doubts whether Ricky can deliver on a consistent basis anymore. But we will see.
No one had heard of Collaros and Harris before a few years back so I have faith that Kilgore and Fajardo will be ok if something happens to Ray. Toronto is the new CFL qb factory. haha. Never thought I'd ever say that.
Harris is on pace to throw 139 TD passes this season. Gonna be awesome!
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I'm expecting a very good outing for Harris this week.
And yes Virginia, he did get the Ralph Wilson / Dumb Phillips / Rob Johnson blue plate special served to him before last season's playoff game (er, I mean debacle).
This thread just keeps on going!!!! And I think it's a great sign that people care about this team and were troubled by what we saw in week 1. It's a long season and no need to panic about anything but I think it's based primarily in that we don't know what we have. Will Ray rebound, not just from last week but to his winning form of 2012/13 and do we have anyone capable to start in his absence in case he doesn't? Great storylines for the season and especially even more poignant this week because the exact same issue is facing the Riders. We shall see.
Having 4 different defensive coordinators in 4 years hasn't helped in that department. Jones decided to rebuild after the 2012 Grey Cup, then left after 2013. Enter Burke who was only here for a year and liked smaller guys (opposite of Jones). Burke gets dumped and we're left with Creehan because he knew Burke's defence - we all know how that worked. Now we have Stubler; who likes vets. If Stubler can stick around for at least 3 years we should be fine, but there will always be some turnover - 25% was the norm IIRC.
Harris was no worse than any other Argo in those road "home" games. The team had absolutely no compete in those games, and I can't blame them one bit. Singling out Harris' bad performance in those games is unreasonable. Joe Montana could have played QB in those games and he would have sucked too.
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