GAME THREAD / Week 15 / Winning streak edition / Toronto @ Hamilton

[gilthethrill]

I can't say what happened in the black-and-white era but people were complaining about refs long before HD TV. For instance, 1981 Grey Cup and 1983 Eastern Final.

All those blown calls I recall on am radio in the 80's!

[gilthethrill]

I wonder if they've forgiven Al McColman in Hamilton yet?

Geoff Townsend still sends him Fruit Cake each Christmas.

[Argo57]

I wonder if they've forgiven Al McColman in Hamilton yet?

Talk about uncomfortable, yikes!!

[argolio]

Easy win. They should have mailed us the two points.

[Wobbler]

We need to get on a roll going into the playoffs, and they need their coffin hammered shut so they can start concentrating on next season. Our win will be a win-win win!

Hamilton traded CJ Gable today, and that seems like pretty good evidence that their coffin is now sealed. Nice hammering in the Hammer, guys!

[AngeloV]

Hamilton traded CJ Gable today, and that seems like pretty good evidence that their coffin is now sealed. Nice hammering in the Hammer, guys!

According to Naylor, they need to clear cap space due to the bonuses Masoli will get because he is now the starter. They should have released ZC after the Labour day game. Would have saved them over 200k in space.

[cfl-cis fan]

IMO it's hard to argue with his assessment. The flag on Washington was a bad call by the refs (IMO), Cross did fumble (IMO), and the "non offside" looked offside to me. In saying that I think 1 out of every 3 snaps is offside, and they're rarely called, so I've always wondered about that. Also, I like to know how many missed calls went the Ticats way, as bad as the CFL refs are, things usually balance out eventually.

I thought the ruling was that CROSS did fumble but the ball last touched him on the way out of bounds. Think the ref got that call right!

[ArgoZ]

I thought the ruling was that CROSS did fumble but the ball last touched him on the way out of bounds. Think the ref got that call right!

I you follow some of the twitter battles, truth has been shown that the missed offside was indeed onside, so that was right too! I'm really sick of every close call or every perceived missed call being the cause of complain or blame for Hamilton's loss. They had every opportunity to put the Argos away, but were unable too. Ti-Cats beat writer Drew Edwards even cited the CFL rule book, which he totally misinterpreted, trying to justify the Cats take on the Cross play. They are really grasping at straws here to cope.

[Wobbler]

I thought the ruling was that CROSS did fumble but the ball last touched him on the way out of bounds. Think the ref got that call right!

Drew Edwards' article points out that according to the rules, it doesn't matter if the ball touches a player who is down.

[cfl-cis fan]

Drew Edwards' article points out that according to the rules, it doesn't matter if the ball touches a player who is down.

win some lose some, I enjoyed the game.

[ArgoZ]

Drew Edwards' article points out that according to the rules, it doesn't matter if the ball touches a player who is down.

He misinterprets the rule to make it sound that's what it means. Possession goes to whoever touched it last, clear as day. The rule also states the player can be in the air and touch the ball as long as he lands in bounds. Problem is, it says "off the ground" and he mistakingly believes Cross is "on the ground". Kind of funny. It also shows how much a homer some writers can be once they get caught up in fan driven propaganda.

[timlb01]

He misinterprets the rule to make it sound that's what it means. Possession goes to whoever touched it last, clear as day. The rule also states the player can be in the air and touch the ball as long as he lands in bounds. Problem is, it says "off the ground" and he mistakingly believes Cross is "on the ground". Kind of funny. It also shows how much a homer some writers can be once they get caught up in fan driven propaganda.

All turn overs are reviewed by the command centre. I know we can all make jokes about that but clearly the right call was made along with the off side. I have not had a chance to watch the game at home but the SJ Green pass interference call was not shown on the video board at the donut box but I would assume it would be accurate although my guess is something most of us don't like but that is a rule change. Great game and another example of why this league is so great.

[AngeloV]

I you follow some of the twitter battles, truth has been shown that the missed offside was indeed onside, so that was right too! I'm really sick of every close call or every perceived missed call being the cause of complain or blame for Hamilton's loss. They had every opportunity to put the Argos away, but were unable too. Ti-Cats beat writer Drew Edwards even cited the CFL rule book, which he totally misinterpreted, trying to justify the Cats take on the Cross play. They are really grasping at straws here to cope.

I had a battle with Edwards on the subject.

[R.J]

CFL tells Ticats pass interference call was incorrect
http://www.tsn.ca/cfl-tells-ticats-p...rrect-1.873478

Edwards may have been onto something. I also think the Cross fumble should've been Ticats football, but we've already gone through all that.

[RB957]

I you follow some of the twitter battles, truth has been shown that the missed offside was indeed onside, so that was right too! I'm really sick of every close call or every perceived missed call being the cause of complain or blame for Hamilton's loss. They had every opportunity to put the Argos away, but were unable too. Ti-Cats beat writer Drew Edwards even cited the CFL rule book, which he totally misinterpreted, trying to justify the Cats take on the Cross play. They are really grasping at straws here to cope.

I agree that the TiCats had every opportunity to put the Argos away, but blew it. Masoli completes that one pass to Tasker where he was wide open and it's game over. But that's football. They lost their Mojo just as we were finding ours. The PI call against Washington was atrocious, but thankfully it had no impact on the final result. Great win, but we have to play better to beat the Roughriders.

[argotom]

Total incompetence, no excuses.
Glen Johnson should be fired as the head of officials, way not just many mistakes, but glaring mistakes.
As an Argo fan, there is no question how the Cats got ripped off on several calls and each on its own likely changes the outcome.

[argotom]

According to Naylor, they need to clear cap space due to the bonuses Masoli will get because he is now the starter. They should have released ZC after the Labour day game. Would have saved them over 200k in space.

I don't think there was any chance of that as likely the Argos would have picked him up.
The last thing they would want is any player especially with yes the potential still of ZC to go down the highway.

[AngeloV]

I don't think there was any chance of that as likely the Argos would have picked him up.
The last thing they would want is any player especially with yes the potential still of ZC to go down the highway.

Would have better a better option than having a $500+ K guy on the sidelines. They should be focused on bettering their own team and not worry about who picks him up.

[R.J]

Total incompetence, no excuses.
Glen Johnson should be fired as the head of officials, way not just many mistakes, but glaring mistakes.
As an Argo fan, there is no question how the Cats got ripped off on several calls and each on its own likely changes the outcome.

Agree about Johnson, should have been let go a long time ago. And the fact that Orridge actually promoted Johnson, IMO showed Orridge's incompetence.

[R.J]

According to Naylor, they need to clear cap space due to the bonuses Masoli will get because he is now the starter. They should have released ZC after the Labour day game. Would have saved them over 200k in space.

And if Masoli were to go down, who would be the Ticats starter ?
(Golson is the only other guy they have currently)