The Argos and the 2020 CFL Scouting Bureau Report

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CFL scouts can`t see fit to draft the likes of outstanding kicking talents like Paredes, Liam H-alphabet or little Ottawa guy who goes on to set all-time pro FG accuarcy mark; but now they have this Molson guy in their top 20 - why - cause the guy is on a groovy Div I roster. or maybe they are getting that kickers can be very important in the CFL game ÉÉÉ

Saw Molson kick a couple of converts and a kickoff yesterday in the UCLA/ Oklahoma game yesterday. Converts were dead center and the kickoff was in the end zone. So he has a pretty good leg. The GOB CFL scouts have him rated in the 2nd round which is fairly high IMO for a PK. He doesn't punt, but probably can if needed.
Also saw Gallimore for Oklahoma. He looked slimmer and quicker than I remember from seeing him last year in two or three games. Which would be good for the CFL game. He may get drafted down there and we will have a better idea later in the season. Never pressured the QB much from his DT spot but was tough to run against.

[Jon Gonzo]

Cept that CFL offensive coaching bright lights don`t get the possibility of a TE being used as a pâss catching weapon - long gone from the game for good ole, same old simpleton offences now; though it has been tried in the past decade or so - once or twice a season sort of by a few teams, and usually with great success - a TE lines up tight to the line and releases down-field and almost always wide-open for a big gainer (Ottawa used if for a long TD to Beaulieu, last year i think it was); basically what i would call a freebie play in the offensive bingo card - defences just are not going to be ready for it, the TE ends up WIDE open; mind you, they would end up adjusting some if the play was used a few times- but for once a game, and at a time when you need a big play = easy as pie or liking taking candy from a baby defence; offensive same old CFL minds can`t seem to get or grasp this.

Argos used Jamal Campbell as a TE for a TD this year. Usually see this play once or twice a season for paydirt.

[OV Argo]

Argos used Jamal Campbell as a TE for a TD this year. Usually see this play once or twice a season for paydirt.

An extra O-Lineman in for goal-line, short yardage situations and catching a TD pass as a surprise or trick play has been going on (maybe a few times a season) in the CFL for quite some time now.

I wuz talking about something totally different - an actual pass catching tight end (guy with real receiver experience and skills), lining up on the line, and from anywhere on the field and releasing well down-field to maybe catch a pass; not sure many O-lineman have this capability; we were talking about a Cibasu having that receiver ability, but also the size to be in for blocking duties (sets up the play if all the D sees from the guy is a bit of pass pro or run blocking); Brian Jones was another big body receiver who could have filled this role; Declan Cross was doing some damage as a pass catching H-back awhile back (and too bad this Argo offence lost that), but it was mostly shorter passes where the big guy could get rumbling and truck DBs (love to see that); Cibasu & Jones types probably have way more well downfield receiver skills and experience. This a possible big gainer play (50+ yard type) if used as a surprise from well inside your own end of the field.

[Jon Gonzo]

An extra O-Lineman in for goal-line, short yardage situations and catching a TD pass as a surprise or trick play has been going on (maybe a few times a season) in the CFL for quite some time now.

I wuz talking about something totally different - an actual pass catching tight end (guy with real receiver experience and skills), lining up on the line, and from anywhere on the field and releasing well down-field to maybe catch a pass; not sure many O-lineman have this capability; we were talking about a Cibasu having that receiver ability, but also the size to be in for blocking duties (sets up the play if all the D sees from the guy is a bit of pass pro or run blocking); Brian Jones was another big body receiver who could have filled this role; Declan Cross was doing some damage as a pass catching H-back awhile back (and too bad this Argo offence lost that), but it was mostly shorter passes where the big guy could get rumbling and truck DBs (love to see that); Cibasu & Jones types probably have way more well downfield receiver skills and experience. This a possible big gainer play (50+ yard type) if used as a surprise from well inside your own end of the field.

It's been a while for sure. Last guys I remember in that position in Toronto were Peter Mueller and Tony Moro. The Run & Shoot shot that alignment down; however, what goes around comes around. Why not? Instead of putting a small guy inside, which used to work, and now sees them get injured far too often, the Slotbacks look more like TE as it is. Rodney Smith would be a good TE. We have some guys who have that body type and more and more of them are available now in the CFL Draft.

[jerrym]

The CFL Scouting Bureau failed to list the Canadian RB who is currently leading the NCAA in rushing - Chuba Hubbard, who is now starting to receive some press as a potential Heisman Trophy winner. If he were to do that, he would be the first non-American winner. Of course, if he were to do that, he would be going to the NFL, not the CFL, at least initially.

In all of sport, there may be no individual award more storied than the Heisman trophy. ...

Since 1935, the award has been the crowning achievement for football’s biggest star. The elite club includes nine Pro Football Hall of Famers and 22 first overall NFL draft picks. Nine recipients have taken their talents north of the border, including CFL legend Doug Flutie, the “Ordinary Superstar” Johnny Rodgers and recent league outcast Johnny Manziel, bringing with them the hype and glamour associated with the award.

Despite being equally recognizable on this side of the 49th, the Heisman trophy has never been awarded to a foreign-born player. This season, that could change thanks to an elusive runner born and raised in Sherwood Park, Alberta. Oklahoma State’s Chuba Hubbard has been the most electrifying player in college football through three weeks of play. The six-foot-one, 207-pound redshirt sophomore took over the Cowboys’ starting running back job in Week 1, seizing his opportunity with a 26-carry performance against Oregon State that saw him amass 221 yards and three touchdowns on the ground.

After being used sparingly in Week 2 against FCS opponent McNeese State, getting just eight attempts for 44 yards and a touchdown in a blowout win by OSU, Hubbard exceeded already lofty expectations by setting a new career-high in rushing last week. Hubbard sliced through Tulsa for 256 yards on 32 attempts and added another hat trick of touchdowns.

Perhaps for the first time ever, a Canadian sits atop the NCAA rushing leaderboard a quarter of the way through the college football season, leading the nation with 521 yards and ranked second with seven touchdowns. Advanced stats show that Hubbard has forced 14 missed tackles and has churned out an incredible 297 yards after contact. It’s a stat line that has put a Heisman trophy campaign firmly in the realm of possibility. ...

ESPN.com’s weekly Heisman rankings had the Cowboys’ bell cow in the eighth spot going into Week 4, with 30-to-1 odds to win the award. ProFootballFocus, which grades every college player on every snap, has him ranked in their 10th spot. It’s a candidacy that is all the more surprising given the admirable road-less-traveled that Hubbard took to NCAA stardom.

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Hubbard is just a sophmore. He is a good one though and I wouldn't be surprised to see him declare for the NFL draft after his Junior year.

[CrazyCanuck89]

The CFL Scouting Bureau failed to list the Canadian RB who is currently leading the NCAA in rushing - Chuba Hubbard, who is now starting to receive some press as a potential Heisman Trophy winner. If he were to do that, he would be the first non-American winner. Of course, if he were to do that, he would be going to the NFL, not the CFL, at least initially.

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I'm pretty sure Hubbard will be eligible for the 2022 draft.

[jerrym]

DL Court Hammond, another player born in the USA with Canadian parentage, has been added to the 2020 CFL draft.

Court Hammond has been added to next year’s draft following a four-year career at Western Oregon. The six-foot-six, 275-pound defensive tackle is sure to draw the attention of scouts with his impressive frame, physicality, and high motor. ...

The converted tight end appeared in 23 games with the Wolves, recording 38 tackles, 7.5 tackles for loss, four sacks, and one forced fumble.

Hammond has experience at defensive end in the American game but projects as a defensive tackle north of the border.

https://3downnation.com/2019/12/03/w...020-cfl-draft/

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Another offensive lineman playing in the NCAA who should or could be eligible for the 2020 draft is Matt Guevremont 6'4 330 RT from Pickering, Ontario.

Played two years at Chabot College (2016-17) in California where he was All-California. 2018 at Malone College where after starting all 10 games was named 2nd team all conference. Malone dropped football pryor to 2019 season so don't know where he has ended up.

[OV Argo]

Another offensive lineman playing in the NCAA who should or could be eligible for the 2020 draft is Matt Guevremont 6'4 330 RT from Pickering, Ontario.

Played two years at Chabot College (2016-17) in California where he was All-California. 2018 at Malone College where after starting all 10 games was named 2nd team all conference. Malone dropped football pryor to 2019 season so don't know where he has ended up.

The December version of the CFL Scouting Bureau should be out soon - expect some changes there; a few of the NCAA ball Canucks on that first list did not do that much in US college ball this past season (and if DB Rene was already injured and eligible for another season down there - why was he even on that first list if he will thus not be draftable ?) Reciever Brissett - who had some good NCAA ball production in past seasons, has not seemed to have played this year at Virginia where he transferred to from Richmond ?)

Hammond seems like an interesting new prospect, but maybe a bit light at 275 on a 6-6 frame to be a CFL DT ? Why not at DE ?

[SkalbaniasGhost]

Another offensive lineman playing in the NCAA who should or could be eligible for the 2020 draft is Matt Guevremont 6'4 330 RT from Pickering, Ontario.

Played two years at Chabot College (2016-17) in California where he was All-California. 2018 at Malone College where after starting all 10 games was named 2nd team all conference. Malone dropped football pryor to 2019 season so don't know where he has ended up.

He transferred to Indiana-Perdue.He had a nagging quad injury in fall camp that affected his ability to compete.He is a sleeper.Chris Gangarossa from Wagner is another OL who will operate under the radar this spring leading up to the draft.

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He transferred to Indiana-Perdue.He had a nagging quad injury in fall camp that affected his ability to compete.He is a sleeper.Chris Gangarossa from Wagner is another OL who will operate under the radar this spring leading up to the draft.

Looks like Indiana-Pennsylvania maybe red-shirted Guevremont for what would be his Senior year.

Saw a clip of Gangarossa playing LG for Wagner against Div. I UConn. I guessed him at about 6'4 300 and he handled himself well. I thought he looked better and quicker than the Buffalo Guard Tomas Jack-Kurdyla who was listed number at 13 on top 20 released this past fall.
Canadian Sophmore DE Lwal Uguak 6'5 270 at UConn is a guy to watch for in a couple of years.

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Gallimore playing today - on TV - in the Big 12 Championship game.

[jerrym]

The December version of the CFL Scouting Bureau should be out soon - expect some changes there; a few of the NCAA ball Canucks on that first list did not do that much in US college ball this past season (and if DB Rene was already injured and eligible for another season down there - why was he even on that first list if he will thus not be draftable ?) Reciever Brissett - who had some good NCAA ball production in past seasons, has not seemed to have played this year at Virginia where he transferred to from Richmond ?)

Hammond seems like an interesting new prospect, but maybe a bit light at 275 on a 6-6 frame to be a CFL DT ? Why not at DE ?

Gallimore playing today - on TV - in the Big 12 Championship game.

Here is the second CFL Scouting Bureau report with Neville Gallimore at the top, Chase Claypool second and Nathan Rourke third, the same as before. The biggest increase in rankings are Carter O'Donnell (11th to 4), Tomas Jack Kurdyla (13 to 5), Marc Antoine Duquay (15 to 9), Brendan O'Leary Orange (14 to 10). There are four newly ranked players with Rysen John going all the way from unranked to #11.

WINTER SCOUTING BUREAU RANKINGS

RANK	NAME	POSITION	SCHOOL	HOMETOWN
1 (1)	Neville Gallimore	DT	Oklahoma	Ottawa
2 (2)	Chase Claypool	REC	Notre Dame	Abbotsford, B.C.
3 (3)	Nathan Rourke	QB	Ohio	Oakville, Ont.
4 (11)	Carter O’Donnell	OL	Alberta	Red Deer, Alta.
5 (13)	Tomas Jack-Kurdyla	OL	Buffalo	Montreal
6 (7)	Ketel Asse	OL	Laval	Saint-Marc, Haiti
7 (6)	Dejon Brissett	REC	Richmond	Mississauga, Ont.
8 (9)	Mason Bennett	DE	North Dakota	Winnipeg
9 (15)	Marc-Antoine Dequoy	DB	Montreal	Île-Bizard, Que.
10 (14)	Brendan O’Leary-Orange	REC	Nevada	Toronto
11 (–)	Rysen John	REC	Simon Fraser	Vancouver
12 (16)	Dylan Giffen	OL	Western	Strathroy, Ont.
13 (8)	Adam Auclair	LB	Laval	Quebec City
14 (18)	Adam Sinagra	QB	Calgary	Pointe-Claire, Que.
15 (–)	Cameron Lawson	DL	Queen’s	Caledon, Ont.
16 (19)	Tyler Ternowski	REC	Waterloo	Hamilton
17 (–)	Isaac Adeyemi-Berglund	DL	Southeastern Louisiana	Dartmouth, N.S.
18 (20)	Jesse Lawson	OL	Carleton	Vancouver
19 (12)	J.J. Molson	K	UCLA	Montreal
20 (–)	Jack Cassar	LB	Carleton	Mississauga, Ont.

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/12/10/gallim...reau-rankings/

[jerrym]

Below are the CFL Scouting Bureau comments on the top five players in its winter rankings.

TOP 5 PROSPECTS
1. NEVILLE GALLIMORE | DT | OKLAHOMA
Gallimore notched 25 tackles (17 solo and eight assisted), three sacks and 6.5 tackles for a loss during the regular season. The Sooners finished with an 9-1 record, including a victory over Baylor in the Big 12 Conference Championship game where Gallimore registered two tackles and a sack. The Sooners will face LSU in the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl on December 28 with the winner advancing to the College Football Playoff National Championship.

2. CHASE CLAYPOOL | REC | NOTRE DAME
Claypool led the Fighting Irish in receptions (59), receiving yards (891) and touchdowns (12). The Abbotsford, B.C., native tied a school record with four receiving touchdowns against Navy in November. Notre Dame will take on Iowa State in the Camping World Bowl on December 28. In addition to his duties on the offensive side, Claypool also plays as a gunner on special teams. Across his four-year career in South Bend, Ind., he has totaled 143 catches, 2,013 receiving yards and 18 touchdown receptions.

3. NATHAN ROURKE | QB | OHIO
Rourke finished the regular season with a career-high 2,676 passing yards on a 61.4 per cent completion rate, while amassing 32 touchdowns (20 passing and 12 rushing). The performance earned the Oakville, Ont., native an All-MAC first team selection. In three years as a Bobcat, including 36 starts (23-13, .639), he has accumulated 7,313 passing yards, 2,552 rushing yards and 108 touchdowns (60 passing and 48 rushing). Rourke will play his final collegiate game against Nevada in the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl on January 3.

4. CARTER O’DONNELL | OL | ALBERTA
O’Donnell anchored an offensive line that averaged 399 yards of total offence and 5.2 yards per rush this season. The 6’6, 300-pound native of Red Deer, Alta., was named a U SPORT First Team All-Canadian for his efforts.

5. TOMAS JACK-KURDYLA | OL | BUFFALO
Jack-Kurdyla appeared in 11 games this season on an offence which averaged over 250 rushing yards and 5.0 yards per carry, while only allowing eight sacks. The 6’4, 300-pound Montreal native appeared in 47 games over a four-year collegiate career which will conclude in the Makers Wanted Bahamas Bowl against Charlotte on December 20.

https://www.cfl.ca/2019/12/10/gallim...reau-rankings/

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We know CB Patrice Rene 6'3 195 at North Carolina dropped off the list because he was injured and will probably be given another year of eligibility. I don't know why more guys like him don't turn pro like Kobongo did this past year with Winnipeg, if they've already graduated. Get paid a year and then try the NFL.
LT Sage Doxtater 6'7 340 New Mexico State dropped from number 4 to no where. Maybe he was injured as well. DE Daniel Joseph 6'3 260 Penn State gone from number 10 to no where. He was listed as a Junior on their roster, so maybe he really has another year.
This list is probably more what we will see until the draft, with a few tweaks after the combine.

[OV Argo]

A couple of real interesting additions to that top 20 - guys i had not heard of before - DE Berglund (Southeastern Louisiana) and receiver Rysen John (Simon Fraser - a 6-7, 220 (!) target and their leading receiver the past couple of seasons); also a couple of U Sports D players - LB Cassar (Carelton) and DT Lawson (Queens) break into the top 20.

Looking like a pretty decent draft crop IMO - strong at both D & O-lines, receiver and maybe LBs too (Acadia LB Bailey Feltmate should maybe be top 20). 2 QBs in the top 20 - GOB scouting interestin; Brissett still rated top 20 - perhaps based on previous good NCAA ball production at Richmond - but he did little at Virginia this season; several U Sports receivers could push him for a top 20 spot IMO. No RBs in the top 20 - but there are a couple of good U Sports backs who could be had later rounds.

Still dont get UCLA kicker Molson rated higher than that Western kicker Legghio who had a superb season both punting & place kicking (47.5 punting average and 92 % on FGs) - makes no sense IMO.


Looking forward to draft time and CFL Combine testing to see who also might emerge or move up in the rankings; and to see who the Argos might think of looking at (a few very good safety prospects perhaps who could come in and maybe start right away - Gabriel could move up to OLB); another DE to team with Robbie Smith perhaps; Argos seem to have lots of depth at Canadian receiver, LB and O-line prospects, so should be able to look elsewhere IMO, to go outside of the box of typical, predictable draft thinking.

[argolio]

The top two will be NFL draft picks, and I think Rourke will be in an NFL camp. After that we'll see.

Based on highlights I've seen, Adeyemi-Berglund had some huge pass-rushing games later in the season.

I wouldn't say no to taking a guard at #2. We need new blood at that position

[Rich]

Still dont get UCLA kicker Molson rated higher than that Western kicker Legghio who had a superb season both punting & place kicking (47.5 punting average and 92 % on FGs) - makes no sense IMO.

Getting a good kicker should be a very high priority for this team. We haven’t had a top kicker since Prefontaine left, and it’s about time we found one.

[Rich]

The top two will be NFL draft picks, and I think Rourke will be in an NFL camp.

I watched Rourke on TV a few times this year, and I will be surprised if he gets NFL interest. He’s a running QB with an average arm who carries the ball once every two pass attempts, which is a tough sell if you’re not Lamar Jackson.

Rourke could do well in the CFL, but I think O’Connor is a much better QB with better skills and a bigger upside.