GAME THREAD / Week 7 / Toronto @ Winnipeg

**Argo57** · 07-26-2018, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by lazycro

Hoping for a good clean game from Wynn...

An unfortunate slip and fall on Wynn’s part, hopefully he wears proper footwear from now on.😛

**AngeloV** · 07-26-2018, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by Argofans.com

I guess we'll never know if McCluster was meant to replace Jackson this week.

Still no changes to that secondary.

I've been hard on the secondary, but I really don't know if it's actually them, the lack of a pass rush, or the scheme.

**lazycro** · 07-26-2018, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I've been hard on the secondary, but I really don't know if it's actually them, the lack of a pass rush, or the scheme.

Probably the scheme... you give the opposing O 5-10 yd per play to catch a ball they're most likely going to make that catch unless the ball is floated in there

**Argo57** · 07-26-2018, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I've been hard on the secondary, but I really don't know if it's actually them, the lack of a pass rush, or the scheme.

I think both are true Angelo.
I’ve also never seen a defence so soft on second and long situations.

**Will** · 07-26-2018, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I've been hard on the secondary, but I really don't know if it's actually them, the lack of a pass rush, or the scheme.

I think it is the scheme as well, which is affecting the pass rush too.

Whether we like it or not, however, I doubt Trestman is going to cut Mike Archer loose so I just thought they'd try a few different pieces back there just to see...

**lazycro** · 07-26-2018, 03:33 PM

Wilder is GTD

https://www.tsn.ca/argos-reasonably-...tart-1.1148474

**AngeloV** · 07-26-2018, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by lazycro

Probably the scheme... you give the opposing O 5-10 yd per play to catch a ball they're most likely going to make that catch unless the ball is floated in there

But in theory, giving a cushion like that should make it easier to stop the run, because you are coming downhill. I agree with Argo57, whereas scheme has something to do with it, but the players also have to be held accountable. Giving such a cushion really does no good when the secondary can't win a 50/50 ball either.

**PullTogether73** · 07-26-2018, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by lazycro

Wilder is GTD

https://www.tsn.ca/argos-reasonably-...tart-1.1148474

GTD?

Is that "Game Time Decision"?

(Why do people abbreviate everything now and assume everyone will understand?)

**Wobbler** · 07-26-2018, 05:08 PM

Efficiency.

**gilthethrill** · 07-26-2018, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Argo57

I think both are true Angelo.
I’ve also never seen a defence so soft on second and long situations.

I like how opposing offences attack the Argo defence in those situations.

**lazycro** · 07-26-2018, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by PullTogether73

GTD?

Is that "Game Time Decision"?

(Why do people abbreviate everything now and assume everyone will understand?)

Yes. Game time decision.

**macspectrum** · 07-26-2018, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Wobbler

Efficiency.

yeah saving 15 sec of your life whilst others [allegedly those also keenly interested in argos] can just 'suck on it'
oye vey

**macspectrum** · 07-26-2018, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by PullTogether73

GTD?

Is that "Game Time Decision"?

(Why do people abbreviate everything now and assume everyone will understand?)

its just a ruse [or was that rouge] to makes poster feel superior

**jerrym** · 07-26-2018, 08:05 PM

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**Wobbler** · 07-27-2018, 02:21 AM

I think this one will be closer, but I don't see any reason to expect a win.

**PullTogether73** · 07-27-2018, 05:14 AM

So, who will gain more yards this game, the Argos offense or Andrew Harris?

Harris was the one last week.

**Argo** · 07-27-2018, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Wobbler

I think this one will be closer, but I don't see any reason to expect a win.

Yes, I'd be very surprised to see the Argos win this game.

**ArgoRavi** · 07-27-2018, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by AngeloV

I've been hard on the secondary, but I really don't know if it's actually them, the lack of a pass rush, or the scheme.

You know as well as I do, AV, that it all starts up front on defence. The Argos simply haven't been getting pressure from their front four and that needs to change. We can't easily evaluate the secondary until or unless we start to see pressure again from the front four. The Argos tied the Stamps in sacks just last season so hopefully they can return to form soon.

**Will** · 07-27-2018, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by ArgoRavi

You know as well as I do, AV, that it all starts up front on defence. The Argos simply haven't been getting pressure from their front four and that needs to change. We can't easily evaluate the secondary until or unless we start to see pressure again from the front four. The Argos tied the Stamps in sacks just last season so hopefully they can return to form soon.

Who is to say though that the scheme isn't affecting both the front four and the secondary?