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    Just curious. How can anyone give actual proof that it's crack in the pipe? Sure, dope is not good either, but in a few years when it becomes legal, we could look back and think it was all not a big deal.

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    This is the mayor of the forth largest city in North America. Dude shouldn't be pissed or boned on drugs in public, let alone caught in video footage partying with known drug dealers and the like. Having only seen footage of crack pipes on Cops and numerous other similar shows I'm sure police officers know exactly what type of drug pipe and drug was in the pipe. Doubt pot can even be smoked by crack pipe methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    This is the mayor of the forth largest city in North America. Dude shouldn't be pissed or boned on drugs in public, let alone caught in video footage partying with known drug dealers and the like. Having only seen footage of crack pipes on Cops and numerous other similar shows I'm sure police officers know exactly what type of drug pipe and drug was in the pipe. Doubt pot can even be smoked by crack pipe methods.
    And as you allude to, even if Ford wasn't smoking crack, does anyone really want their mayor hanging around with known drug dealers and criminals? And why is he doing that? Because they are such great company?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Just curious. How can anyone give actual proof that it's crack in the pipe? Sure, dope is not good either, but in a few years when it becomes legal, we could look back and think it was all not a big deal.
    Apparently he was lighting it from underneath rather than the top, which means he was either smoking crack or meth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    Apparently he was lighting it from underneath rather than the top, which means he was either smoking crack or meth.
    Thanks for the extra info. I will wait to see how everything plays out. It is interesting how some people react, sometimes hypocritical. They love to kick and trash someone when there down. I am not defending anyone, but people think this is the first politician to try cocaine, LOL. My own experiences with media, especially print, has taught me never to fully believe what you are told. I saw the movie Blackfish and I will still go to SeaWorld.

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    I'm not a fan of politians in general but Ford is just a total jackass who I wouldn't let hold one of my shovels let alone run the forth largest city in North America. How does this huge dork think that's he's so untouchable and can get stoned and hammered in public all of the time. They have footage of him smoking crack, swearing at media, pissing beside his SUV in public. Come ON! This tool needs to go and I'm not sure who's voting for this fool but I'm glad I don't call Toronto home. He will eventually crash his SUV into someone and kill them while driving hammered. Will that finally open peoples eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    My own experiences with media, especially print, has taught me never to fully believe what you are told.
    Do you apply that same standard to what politicians tell you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Just curious. How can anyone give actual proof that it's crack in the pipe? Sure, dope is not good either, but in a few years when it becomes legal, we could look back and think it was all not a big deal.
    That's exactly why he won't be charged because the video evidence alone is not good enough. All his lawyer has to do is create reasonable doubt which you have just done. Just because he is legally not guilty though doesn't mean he is not guilty. Do you believe O.J. is innocent?

    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Thanks for the extra info. I will wait to see how everything plays out. It is interesting how some people react, sometimes hypocritical. They love to kick and trash someone when there down. I am not defending anyone, but people think this is the first politician to try cocaine, LOL. My own experiences with media, especially print, has taught me never to fully believe what you are told. I saw the movie Blackfish and I will still go to SeaWorld.
    How is holding the mayor of the City of Toronto to a standard hypocritical? I'm sure other politicians have done drugs and the drugs are just one aspect of the Mayor Ford gong show. I'm a little confused as to what Ford apologized for on Sunday. According to him the tape doesn't exist, no? Like I said before I'm sure more information about these Ford clowns is going to come out before all is said and done. Looks like Doug Ford is on the offensive again making himself look like the idiot he is. Doug Ford says Toronto police chief Blair should resign.

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    I like the fact that the Fords are all over Chief Blair for doing his job. Blair isn't the one doing drugs and acting like a huge fool in the public eye day by day. Rob Ford was blowing smoke and had to hide behind a mike in a studio to give some very lame apology. He won't admit crap. It'll all come out and both Fords will look even more foolish than they do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    I like the fact that the Fords are all over Chief Blair for doing his job. Blair isn't the one doing drugs and acting like a huge fool in the public eye day by day. Rob Ford was blowing smoke and had to hide behind a mike in a studio to give some very lame apology. He won't admit crap. It'll all come out and both Fords will look even more foolish than they do now.
    They also know Blair can't release the tape at this time as it is evidence in a case before the courts. Unfortunately the case probably won't be before the courts until after the next election. I can only conclude that they believe by calling Blair out on releasing the tape and he not being able to do so, they think people may believe that the tape doesn't exist again. That's probably why Ford wasn't very specific in his "apology" to the people of Toronto.

    Update: Breaking News: Mayor Ford admits he's smoked crack cocaine. Wow. I bet an adviser (other than his brother) told him that his "apology" on Sunday was weak and probably doing more harm than good. Confess and it might go away but that weak apology will just keep people questioning. Like I keep saying, I'm sure there are more "revelations" to come about Ford's credibility of character. Stay tuned. Same Ford time. Same Ford channel!
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    They also know Blair can't release the tape at this time as it is evidence in a case before the courts. Unfortunately the case probably won't be before the courts until after the next election. I can only conclude that they believe by calling Blair out on releasing the tape and he not being able to do so, they think people may believe that the tape doesn't exist again. That's probably why Ford wasn't very specific in his "apology" to the people of Toronto.

    Update: Breaking News: Mayor Ford admits he's smoked crack cocaine. Wow. I bet an adviser (other than his brother) told him that his "apology" on Sunday was weak and probably doing more harm than good. Confess and it might go away but that weak apology will just keep people questioning. Like I keep saying, I'm sure there are more "revelations" to come about Ford's credibility of character. Stay tuned. Same Ford time. Same Ford channel!
    And of course Doug has gone on the offensive today calling Chief Blair bias in the investigation. As I said before, these are 2 really bad people, and it wouldn't surprise me if something even more serious comes out of this...perhaps how one of the guys in the crack video is no longer with us?
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm sure there are more "revelations" to come about Ford's credibility of character.
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    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    Apparently he was lighting it from underneath rather than the top, which means he was either smoking crack or meth.
    Ummm....personal experience there Argolio? I for one would know nothing about such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Ummm....personal experience there Argolio? I for one would know nothing about such things.
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