New Stadium Locations

[ArgoGabe22]

From today

On other matters, Leiweke said:

-- The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good."
-- Given 17 of 19 Toronto FC games were played in rain at BMO Field this season, "we've got to put an end to that, it's time to put a roof on BMO Field."
-- At the requests of the city of Toronto, which owns BMO Field, MLSE is looking at whether the venue can be changed to accommodate the CFL. "The Argos are part of a conversation, not a decision that's been made."

[ArgoFan1]

ArgoZ- no no no. we don't play Canadian Football by rules we took from the Americans. Our game is older than theirs. They modified the original rules to make their game the slow, boring game it is.

[ArgoZ]

ArgoZ- no no no. we don't play Canadian Football by rules we took from the Americans. Our game is older than theirs. They modified the original rules to make their game the slow, boring game it is.

As we have discussed before, the history of football is really interesting and how both games evolved on their own. True, the CDN game is older. The introduction of downs came from the Americans. From the shores of Lake Erie, the forward pass was introduced about 10 years before we started using it. We played rugby and the Americans slowly changed it, making up football as it is today, with us inheriting a lot of their rules.

[argolio]

As we have discussed before, the history of football is really interesting and how both games evolved on their own. True, the CDN game is older. The introduction of downs came from the Americans. From the shores of Lake Erie, the forward pass was introduced about 10 years before we started using it. We played rugby and the Americans slowly changed it, making up football as it is today, with us inheriting a lot of their rules.

McGill introduced a version of downs when they took their game to Harvard in 1874. McGill also introduced running with the ball and tackling. Before that the American game was mostly kicking the ball back and forth.

Walter Camp, a legend in American football, refined that in the next decade and was the key figure who standardized the rules of the game in the U.S.

[ArgoZ]

McGill introduced a version of downs when they took their game to Harvard in 1874. McGill also introduced running with the ball and tackling. Before that the American game was mostly kicking the ball back and forth.

Walter Camp, a legend in American football, refined that in the next decade and was the key figure who standardized the rules of the game in the U.S.

Ok to be more specific, it was not the "downs for distance" we see today. The "downs" back then were like Rugby "stops". The Americans originally introduced 3 downs for 5 yards. The Canadians really copied or adopted many American rules. Today's modern game is more American than Canadian. It rarely resembles the Canadian "Rugby game" we introduced them too.

[argos1873]

The world refers to the system of downs and forward pass game, as American football, to differentiate from football (soccer). Canadians are North Americans, so it is proper. As much as we would like to take credit for inventing the game, the version we play today is made up from mostly American rules.

Its true that most of the world may refer to football played in North America as American football, but the proper way to refer generically to both games is Gridiron football.

As we have discussed before, the history of football is really interesting and how both games evolved on their own. True, the CDN game is older. The introduction of downs came from the Americans. From the shores of Lake Erie, the forward pass was introduced about 10 years before we started using it. We played rugby and the Americans slowly changed it, making up football as it is today, with us inheriting a lot of their rules.

Exactly. Canadians invented a form of Rugby, the Americans took it and quite rapidly changed it, and with the introduction of import players, coaches and executives, the Canadians changed their game to closely resemble the American one, which continues to this day. So to say they are playing our game is correct. But so is saying we are playing theirs.

[OV Argo]

Its true that most of the world may refer to football played in North America as American football, but the proper way to refer generically to both games is Gridiron football.



Exactly. Canadians invented a form of Rugby, the Americans took it and quite rapidly changed it, and with the introduction of import players, coaches and executives, the Canadians changed their game to closely resemble the American one, which continues to this day. So to say they are playing our game is correct. But so is saying we are playing theirs.

Football - wether the American or Canadian version - both adopted from rugby and subject to many changes over the years - is a uniquely North American sport - there is no official or better version of the game, and one version is just not a copy of the other - not even close - and IMO it is silly to think so.

There is Canadian football and there is American football - both great versions of a game and with their own distinct rules - thank gawd for this variety (I like and appreciate both versions of the game and am glad they are each their own - wayyyyy to much sameness in a lot of things today IMO)..

Canadian football just does not - IMO - get the respect it deserves for it's consistent quality and historical signifigance (not just the CFL but Canadian University ball, Junior ball, all the levels of minor ball down thru all the people who play the game, like adult touch football or just kids chucking the ball around in the park - and IMO again - that this happens in it's own country is sad and pathetic ; and we can thank the many wannabes and lemmings in the media up here for this. Canadians are constantly reminded how hockey is "Canada's game" and that is a great sport with so much history here. Not enough people get, however, that football is every bit as much a Canadian sport as hockey is. Pity, eh ?

[ArgoRavi]

The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good" according to Leiweke? Paul Godfrey said the same thing twenty-five years ago.

[ArgoZ]

The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good" according to Leiweke? Paul Godfrey said the same thing twenty-five years ago.

Year after year there is some talking head predicting the NFL's arrival. Eventually, they grow old, retire, maybe pass away, and someone new takes their place, all while the NFL is still not here.

[QBall]

From today
On other matters, Leiweke said:

-- The chances of an NFL team coming to Toronto in the next decade are "pretty good."

Really Tim? The NFL seems to think differently

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...nfl-wants-both

L.A. or London first? NFL wants both

[rdavies]

Really Tim? The NFL seems to think differently
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...nfl-wants-both
L.A. or London first? NFL wants both

"Goodell is a huge proponent of playing in London. There will be two regular-season games played in London this season and three in 2014. The games are wildly popular and have been sellouts." You are proving you are worthy of a franchise," Goodell told the European fans."

Looks like the Bills in Toronto series is proving otherwise.

Lots of US fans don't want a team in London, reminiscent of US fans not wanting TFC in MLS. Personally I have a hard time believing that quite a few players won't have a problem with living there. Players in other sports already whine about taxes, customs (border crossing) and not being able to see themselves on ESPN while playing in Canada, let alone the different culture that is England.

[QBall]

"Goodell is a huge proponent of playing in London. There will be two regular-season games played in London this season and three in 2014. The games are wildly popular and have been sellouts." You are proving you are worthy of a franchise," Goodell told the European fans."

Looks like the Bills in Toronto series is proving otherwise.

Lots of US fans don't want a team in London, reminiscent of US fans not wanting TFC in MLS. Personally I have a hard time believing that quite a few players won't have a problem with living there. Players in other sports already whine about taxes, customs (border crossing) and not being able to see themselves on ESPN while playing in Canada, let alone the different culture that is England.

Can you imagine people in London waking up at 3:00 A.M. to watch their London team play an away game in Seattle, San Francisco, Oakland or San Diego at 7:00 PM PST?
As I understand it the NFL won't allow a corporation or group to own a team, it has to be an individual, so I don't know why Robbers is trying so hard. I don't know too many Canadians who have the cash sitting around to pay the $1 billion expansion fee.

[argos1873]

As I understand it the NFL won't allow a corporation or group to own a team, it has to be an individual, so I don't know why Robbers is trying so hard. I don't know too many Canadians who have the cash sitting around to pay the $1 billion expansion fee.

That's not entirely true, a corporation can own a certain amount of a team so long as a certain amount is owned by an individual, and then there are certain percentages that the individual's family can own. I don't know the numbers off hand, but for this discussion it doesn't really matter as an NFL team, not even a relocation of the Bills is in Toronto's future in the conceivable future. Let's put it this way, if you are Ralph Wilson or whoever is controlling his estate, and you have 2 suitors for your team, do you sell it to Toronto, or do you sell it to LA? And which one do you think the NFL will UNILATERALLY agree to? The answer to both? LA. Toronto doesn't even have a suitable NFL stadium for god's sake. The NFL isn't coming to Toronto any time soon folks, regardless of what the local NFL hypers would want you to believe.