Argos Town Hall - Do You Have Any Ideas?

[AngeloV]

Just because only one person is speaking up doesn't mean that they're the only one that has issues with it. Feedback was requested so I provided ours. Unfortunately with our work schedules we just can't get downtown on a weekday unless the event starts after 8:30 or we take a vacation day.

Still trying to figure out why it's okay to have Fan Day outside of downtown but not the Town Hall?

Problem is that you are really coming across as a huge whiner here. You are only looking at things from your own personal perspective. Regarding fan day, I'm sure if there was a good place to have it downtown, they would. It can't happen at BMO.

[BATKINSON001]

Problem is that you are really coming across as a huge whiner here. You are only looking at things from your own personal perspective. Regarding fan day, I'm sure if there was a good place to have it downtown, they would. It can't happen at BMO.

do it at downsview, they have the practice facility there.

[Neely2005]

Problem is that you are really coming across as a huge whiner here. You are only looking at things from your own personal perspective. Regarding fan day, I'm sure if there was a good place to have it downtown, they would. It can't happen at BMO.

So they ask for feedback, I give feedback. A discussion ensues and that makes me a whiner? Who's perspective am I supposed to give? I was under the impression that they were asking each of us to give our own personal perspective. Has Fan Day ever been downtown? I certainly can't remember it being downtown.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with this Forum. Of all the numerous Forums that I participate in this one is just warped. People complain and attack Posters for offering a free Argos Jersey. People complain about quoting your own post. People say it's whining when you respond to a request for feedback. This place is just messed up.

[BATKINSON001]

So they ask for feedback, I give feedback. A discussion ensues and that makes me a whiner? Who's perspective am I supposed to give? I was under the impression that they were asking each of us to give our own personal perspective. Has Fan Day ever been downtown? I certainly can't remember it being downtown.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with this Forum. Of all the numerous Forums that I participate in this one is just warped. People complain and attack Posters for offering a free Argos Jersey. People complain about quoting your own post. People say it's whining when you respond to a request for feedback. This place is just messed up.

I find this place to be much better than the cfl.ca forums...

Anyhow it would be much appreciated if people would keep the complaining and user bashing out of this thread...

[Shatto]

There have been a number of cogent, well thought out posts regarding the upcoming Town Hall, especially from Matthew and SnowRogue, who have both made some excellent suggestions. Hopefully Jamie Dykstra will take at least some, if not all of their suggestions under serious consideration.

Regardless of location, a prompt announcement of date and perhaps time would be particularly helpful, as we all plan are calendars well in advance.

As for location, arguments for both downtown and suburban locations have been well presented (sometimes quite strongly) but since the overwhelming percentage of fans coming to this event, will in all likelihood be driving, it probably does make more sense to go for a suburban location with good access from major highways.

[BATKINSON001]

There have been a number of cogent, well thought out posts regarding the upcoming Town Hall, especially from Matthew and SnowRogue, who have both made some excellent suggestions. Hopefully Jamie Dykstra will take at least some, if not all of their suggestions under serious consideration.

Regardless of location, a prompt announcement of date and perhaps time would be particularly helpful, as we all plan are calendars well in advance.

As for location, arguments for both downtown and suburban locations have been well presented (sometimes quite strongly) but since the overwhelming percentage of fans coming to this event, will in all likelihood be driving, it probably does make more sense to go for a suburban location with good access from major highways.

Anyone know if the parking lot is still beside Gretzky's and Second City? I haven't been there in 4 years. I know SC can hold a couple hundred of us, based on the times I went in 2010 and 2013.

[Neely2005]

Anyone know if the parking lot is still beside Gretzky's and Second City? I haven't been there in 4 years. I know SC can hold a couple hundred of us, based on the times I went in 2010 and 2013.

Most of those parking lots are condos now. There are still a few parking lots on Front Street near Spadina though.

[matthew]

Thank Shatto.

Location not the most important element. Content of meeting is. I had some others but this would be a good start for now. A visit from the Larry would also be appreciated. So at least we can thank him for stepping in.


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There have been a number of cogent, well thought out posts regarding the upcoming Town Hall, especially from Matthew and SnowRogue, who have both made some excellent suggestions. Hopefully Jamie Dykstra will take at least some, if not all of their suggestions under serious consideration.

Regardless of location, a prompt announcement of date and perhaps time would be particularly helpful, as we all plan are calendars well in advance.

As for location, arguments for both downtown and suburban locations have been well presented (sometimes quite strongly) but since the overwhelming percentage of fans coming to this event, will in all likelihood be driving, it probably does make more sense to go for a suburban location with good access from major highways.

[PullTogether73]

since the overwhelming percentage of fans coming to this event, will in all likelihood be driving, it probably does make more sense to go for a suburban location with good access from major highways.

On what do you base this statement?

[Shatto]

Thank you, GreyDragon, for drawing to my attention, that statement should have been more clearly expressed as a perception and I recognize all perceptions are subjective by their very nature. However, the perception is based, on many informal interactions with fans and in particular STH's over the past decade. In general conversation, most indicated that they drove to games, even if it meant driving to some form of public transit. Recognizing that this is highly unscientific, it is still a reasonable basis for the perception.
If anyone has more objective fact based data, of the percentage of fans who drive or don't drive to games, perhaps they could provide all of us with that information.
Personal bias aside, as Matthew correctly pointed out "location is not the most important element, content of the meeting is"

[Neely2005]

Thank you, GreyDragon, for drawing to my attention, that statement should have been more clearly expressed as a perception and I recognize all perceptions are subjective by their very nature. However, the perception is based, on many informal interactions with fans and in particular STH's over the past decade. In general conversation, most indicated that they drove to games, even if it meant driving to some form of public transit. Recognizing that this is highly unscientific, it is still a reasonable basis for the perception.
If anyone has more objective fact based data, of the percentage of fans who drive or don't drive to games, perhaps they could provide all of us with that information.
Personal bias aside, as Matthew correctly pointed out "location is not the most important element, content of the meeting is"

It lines up with the Poll results too:

http://www.argofans.com/showthread.p...(Revised-Poll)

[AngeloV]

So they ask for feedback, I give feedback. A discussion ensues and that makes me a whiner? Who's perspective am I supposed to give? I was under the impression that they were asking each of us to give our own personal perspective. Has Fan Day ever been downtown? I certainly can't remember it being downtown.

Sometimes I wonder why I even bother with this Forum. Of all the numerous Forums that I participate in this one is just warped. People complain and attack Posters for offering a free Argos Jersey. People complain about quoting your own post. People say it's whining when you respond to a request for feedback. This place is just messed up.

You gave your feedback. I had no problem with that. It's your constant desire to always get in the last word that bothers me.

And for the record it was me that you are referring to with the jersey thing. Amazing the slant that you put on things. I never had a problem with that. It was the way he slagged the Argos management in the process and finished with mentioning he buys Ti-Cats tickets anyways, and not Argos tickets. It was an obvious troll job, but he used the jersey to make it look otherwise.

[Neely2005]

You gave your feedback. I had no problem with that. It's your constant desire to always get in the last word that bothers me.

And for the record it was me that you are referring to with the jersey thing. Amazing the slant that you put on things. I never had a problem with that. It was the way he slagged the Argos management in the process and finished with mentioning he buys Ti-Cats tickets anyways, and not Argos tickets. It was an obvious troll job, but he used the jersey to make it look otherwise.

And your constant desire to personally attack people by calling them names such as "Troll" and "Whiner" bothers me.

Yes we know in your eyes the Argonauts organization is perfect and can do no wrong and no one is ever justified in criticizing anything about the organization.

And for the record the free Jersey offer was real.