Argo QBs for TC ?

[ArgoRavi]

Pro athlete uses inappropriate language on social media. Stop the presses.

The pearl-clutching around here is getting out of hand.

The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.

[Rich]

The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.

If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

[OV Argo]

If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

IF occasionally acting up meant making the odd goofy comment on social media, then sure. Some will draw a line at whacked-out, loon behavior or getting in fights/disputes with others on the team you are supposed to be helping lead.

[gilthethrill]

IF occasionally acting up meant making the odd goofy comment on social media, then sure. Some will draw a line at whacked-out, loon behavior or getting in fights/disputes with others on the team you are supposed to be helping lead.

Let’s just hope Kelly’s mental state is good. Like AV touched on, maybe he is not handling these allegations well and is struggling.

[paulwoods13]

If he didn’t have maturity issues he would be in the NFL right now. So would Argo fans prefer a mediocre QB who always acts professionally, or an MOP who occasionally acts up? You can’t have your cake and eat it too.

Because it's either one or the other? I can think of a lot of non-mediocre QBs who always acted professionally, and a lot of mediocre QBs who always acted professionally. What I can't seem to think of is a lot of MOPs who occasionally "acted up" (if that's how this is being described).

[Rich]

I can think of a lot of non-mediocre QBs who always acted professionally.

If there are so many of these guys howcum we haven’t signed one in a couple of years?

[kellynjk]

The big knock against Kelly through the years is his immaturity. Between the meltdown in the East Final, the "concussion" excuse that came out of the blue a few days later, the serious sexual harassment allegations (and, sorry folks, but a sexual harassment allegation in the workplace is a pretty serious one and a fireable offence, if validated), and these social media antics, it's becoming increasingly difficult to accept that this guy has matured. And I say this as someone who had thought and hoped that Kelly was finally maturing.

Totally agree with everything you've said here. Considering Kelly is almost 30 years, he seems remarkably immature and where the hell is his judgement. I think most people in a similar situation would realize the value of just keeping a low profile till this sexual harassment allegation is dealt with and not do silly things on social media.

[ArgoZ]

Totally agree with everything you've said here. Considering Kelly is almost 30 years, he seems remarkably immature and where the hell is his judgement. I think most people in a similar situation would realize the value of just keeping a low profile till this sexual harassment allegation is dealt with and not do silly things on social media.

Kelly has not been accused of sexual harassment. This could be an important fact once things get settled.

[kellynjk]

Kelly has not been accused of sexual harassment. This could be an important fact once things get settled.

Okay point taken, but being accused of harassment is just as serious and disturbing. Kelly has talent for sure, but I have a bad feeling that the Argos are going to have continually deal with his immaturity and behaviour, so it’s a shame that he’s their marquis player at the moment.

[ArgoZ]

Okay point taken, but being accused of harassment is just as serious and disturbing. Kelly has talent for sure, but I have a bad feeling that the Argos are going to have continually deal with his immaturity and behaviour, so it’s a shame that he’s their marquis player at the moment.

Harassment is often subjective and can be all of levels from repeatedly asking something (collections) to extreme stalking. Sexual harassment is more defined and often leads to criminal charges. Kelly is facing no criminal recourse and to be honest, is being accused of being a giant A-hole to put it in laymen’s terms. I don’t know what the punishment for that is, if true, but losing your job would have legal challenges. A professional team could cut ties because they don’t want that type of player around, yet we are not hearing that. In fact, the Argos are moving ahead with him as QB. That’s very telling. They have to be confident of the outcome and/or be privy to important information we are not. Once again, we have to let this unfold before making outlandish claims or opinions and the least we can do is get the terms right if we are going to speculate.

[Shatto]

Harassment is often subjective and can be all of levels from repeatedly asking something (collections) to extreme stalking. Sexual harassment is more defined and often leads to criminal charges. Kelly is facing no criminal recourse and to be honest, is being accused of being a giant A-hole to put it in laymen’s terms. I don’t know what the punishment for that is, if true, but losing your job would have legal challenges. A professional team could cut ties because they don’t want that type of player around, yet we are not hearing that. In fact, the Argos are moving ahead with him as QB. That’s very telling. They have to be confident of the outcome and/or be privy to important information we are not. Once again, we have to let this unfold before making outlandish claims or opinions and the least we can do is get the terms right if we are going to speculate.

A succinct but complete layout of the case before Kelly and the Argos. Hope this helps everyone.

[Argo57]

Harassment is often subjective and can be all of levels from repeatedly asking something (collections) to extreme stalking. Sexual harassment is more defined and often leads to criminal charges. Kelly is facing no criminal recourse and to be honest, is being accused of being a giant A-hole to put it in laymen’s terms. I don’t know what the punishment for that is, if true, but losing your job would have legal challenges. A professional team could cut ties because they don’t want that type of player around, yet we are not hearing that. In fact, the Argos are moving ahead with him as QB. That’s very telling. They have to be confident of the outcome and/or be privy to important information we are not. Once again, we have to let this unfold before making outlandish claims or opinions and the least we can do is get the terms right if we are going to speculate.

Summed up quite nicely ArgoZ, let’s see how this plays out.