Employee Alleged Harassment Case - Chad Kelly

[paulwoods13]

People seem to know, or claim to know, a lot more than has actually been reported. Who is to say the complainant "went to the media" rather than have her lawyers approach MLSE directly? I'd wager that no one on this forum has any info on what happened before, during or after the events that are alleged to have happened. And again, I will remind everyone that civil suits are a matter of public record. Westhead might have been tipped off to the suit by anyone who knew about it, even a friendly clerk in the courthouse. Or he could have simply looked at all recently filed lawsuits and stumbled upon this. More than one journalist over the years has done that simple act of digging through what's available.

[OV Argo]

People seem to know, or claim to know, a lot more than has actually been reported. Who is to say the complainant "went to the media" rather than have her lawyers approach MLSE directly? I'd wager that no one on this forum has any info on what happened before, during or after the events that are alleged to have happened. And again, I will remind everyone that civil suits are a matter of public record. Westhead might have been tipped off to the suit by anyone who knew about it, even a friendly clerk in the courthouse. Or he could have simply looked at all recently filed lawsuits and stumbled upon this. More than one journalist over the years has done that simple act of digging through what's available.

Yep : bang-on Paul.

Best to wait till more info comes out before reaching any judge & jury decisions.

Still, this is a potential very ugly & shiny black-eye for both the Argos and the CFL. I'm very discouraged and disappointed by this news.

[Joe Barnes]

Total conjecture on my part, but I wonder if these (alleged) events had any influence on AJ Ouellette not resigning with the Argos? His wife is a strength and conditioning coach with the Cincinnati Reds, is she not? AJ would certainly have expectations as to how a female in this role should be treated by a professional sports team.

[kellynjk]

Another interesting article on this issue.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...fed-in-scandal

[BATKINSON001]

Another interesting article on this issue.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...fed-in-scandal

This was a much better article than the original tsn one or the 3down. It was spaced out better so I could read it easier.

This is definitely going to cost the team some fans, both new and existing.

I had bought a Kelly jersey last year, and now I don't even look forward to wearing it or any of the Argos stuff I have, even the two new light jackets I had just bought.

[kellynjk]

Yes I agree that it's going to hurt the team. Instead of focussing on the team and new acquisitions etc, the focus for the foreseeable future is going to be on this story. Plus I'm sure the Argos were viewing Kelly as a marquee player, someone they could promote out front as the most valuable player last season etc. and now all of that is sabotaged. Even if this get resolved outside of the courts, the media is still going to have questions about what happened etc. for months to come any and every time Kelly is mentioned or interviewed.

The Argos are going to have a hard time making any kind of pitch to MLSE about marketing or promotion for the upcoming season when these are the kind of headlines the team is generating. And while I trust that Kelly is a good athlete on the field, it worries me that we could face more of this nonsense from him off the field and that's not good for the team. The article in the Winnipeg Free Press highlights that Kelly has a history of self-sabotage and immaturity and this recent accusation of sexual harassment makes me think he hasn't learned from his past mistakes or become more mature in the way he handles himself.

[Rich]

Yes I agree that it's going to hurt the team. Instead of focussing on the team and new acquisitions etc, the focus for the foreseeable future is going to be on this story. Plus I'm sure the Argos were viewing Kelly as a marquee player, someone they could promote out front as the most valuable player last season etc. and now all of that is sabotaged. Even if this get resolved outside of the courts, the media is still going to have questions about what happened etc. for months to come any and every time Kelly is mentioned or interviewed.

Except for the fact that the Toronto media pays very little attention to the Argonauts. There has been zero mention of this story on CP24 and CBC Toronto. The Sun and Globe websites buried brief wire story blurbs about it. How can it hurt the team if nobody knows about it?

It reminds me of when Murphy used those egregious slurs a couple of years ago, and everyone here was hand-wringing about how much this was going to hurt the team. In the final analysis it didn’t hurt the team in the slightest, and I think once the lawyers settle things the same will be true of this incident.

[ARGOMAN 27]

This was a much better article than the original tsn one or the 3down. It was spaced out better so I could read it easier.

This is definitely going to cost the team some fans, both new and existing.

I had bought a Kelly jersey last year, and now I don't even look forward to wearing it or any of the Argos stuff I have, even the two new light jackets I had just bought.

. No worries just remove stitching and change number around 21 or just 2 or 1 or go numberless like i have since 1990. I never get disappointed.You have endless possibilities

[BATKINSON001]

. No worries just remove stitching and change number around 21 or just 2 or 1 or go numberless like i have since 1990. I never get disappointed.You have endless possibilities

it was one of the premade ones from real sports, it might cost more to have it changed than to buy a blank and have it done up.

["Issues"Mcgee]

This was a much better article than the original tsn one or the 3down. It was spaced out better so I could read it easier.

This is definitely going to cost the team some fans, both new and existing.

I had bought a Kelly jersey last year, and now I don't even look forward to wearing it or any of the Argos stuff I have, even the two new light jackets I had just bought.

But you will still happily pay for Kelly's salary by attending games?

[BATKINSON001]

But you will still happily pay for Kelly's salary by attending games?

. I am undecided at this point as to whether or not I will cancel my tickets.

[gilthethrill]

Another interesting article on this issue.

https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/br...fed-in-scandal

Interesting in what sense? The way Hamilton describes Kelly as having been born with a “Silver Spoon” in his mouth? The way Hamilton accused Jim Kelly of sending in a favour to John Elway having his team draft his nephew? Or how he trashes Jim Barker for something that may have been said in 2011?

This stiff has a long standing issue with the Argos obviously.

[kellynjk]

Interesting in what sense? The way Hamilton describes Kelly as having been born with a “Silver Spoon” in his mouth? The way Hamilton accused Jim Kelly of sending in a favour to John Elway having his team draft his nephew? Or how he trashes Jim Barker for something that may have been said in 2011?

This stiff has a long standing issue with the Argos obviously.

I thought it was interesting because it provided more detail about Kelly's problems and behaviour in the past. Maybe the author doesn't like the Argos, but it doesn't change the fact that Kelly has a history of immature, bad behaviour.

[ArgoRavi]

Total conjecture on my part, but I wonder if these (alleged) events had any influence on AJ Ouellette not resigning with the Argos? His wife is a strength and conditioning coach with the Cincinnati Reds, is she not? AJ would certainly have expectations as to how a female in this role should be treated by a professional sports team.

This same thought did cross my mind in the past couple of days but I have seen speculation about AJ feeling disrespected by the Argos in some way and that is why he left.