Fans Face Ban for Encounter with Female Reporter

[ArgoRavi]

There was also some rather boorish behaviour by some TFC fans towards a CITY-TV reporter: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/11/toronto-fc-fans-confronted-by-city-news-reporter-following-vulgar-on-camera-remark

I would have thought that these TFC fans would be happy to see their team get increased media attention but that wasn't the case with this bunch at least. Let's hope we never see such behaviour from Argos fans. That is a trend that does not need to pick up any further steam.

[BATKINSON001]

There was also some rather boorish behaviour by some TFC fans towards a CITY-TV reporter: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/11/toronto-fc-fans-confronted-by-city-news-reporter-following-vulgar-on-camera-remark

I would have thought that these TFC fans would be happy to see their team get increased media attention but that wasn't the case with this bunch at least. Let's hope we never see such behaviour from Argos fans. That is a trend that does not need to pick up any further steam.

This behaviour is unacceptable no matter where and when it happens.

[LLB997]

There was also some rather boorish behaviour by some TFC fans towards a CITY-TV reporter: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/11/toronto-fc-fans-confronted-by-city-news-reporter-following-vulgar-on-camera-remark

I would have thought that these TFC fans would be happy to see their team get increased media attention but that wasn't the case with this bunch at least. Let's hope we never see such behaviour from Argos fans. That is a trend that does not need to pick up any further steam.

wow, they don't get much trashier than these goofs. TFC must be proud of their fans. I would expect a statement from the club.

Nothing is going to get worse. TL was a warning, the next time the boys and their little arts and crafts project will get tossed.
McClown even having the nervous Banner guy on his show was ridiculous, I thought Bob was going to ask him if his mommy and daddy helped him make it.

[Ron]

There was also some rather boorish behaviour by some TFC fans towards a CITY-TV reporter: http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/11/toronto-fc-fans-confronted-by-city-news-reporter-following-vulgar-on-camera-remark

I would have thought that these TFC fans would be happy to see their team get increased media attention but that wasn't the case with this bunch at least. Let's hope we never see such behaviour from Argos fans. That is a trend that does not need to pick up any further steam.

There are idiot fans for all teams. We can sit on a pedestal and laugh at them but don't forget the Argos have idiot fans equal to those knobs as well.

[T-Bone]

wow, they don't get much trashier than these goofs. TFC must be proud of their fans.
Looks like the TFC supporters groups are proud:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Those guys should be ashamed... “<a href="https://twitter.com/U_Sector">@U_Sector</a>: This is the type of shit <a href="https://twitter.com/torontofc">@torontofc</a> should be banning people for. <a href="https://t.co/zVFB8j2Sk4">https://t.co/zVFB8j2Sk4</a>”</p>&mdash; Red Patch Boys (@RedPatchBoys) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedPatchBoys/status/597912674303942656">May 11, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Absolutely disgusting! This has to stop. Get these idiots banned from <a href="https://twitter.com/BMOField">@BMOField</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFCLive?src=hash">#TFCLive</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash">#TFC</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/torontofc">@torontofc</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/TFC?src=hash">#TFC</a> <a href="http://t.co/ESGkWe4e1J">http://t.co/ESGkWe4e1J</a></p>&mdash; Inebriatti (@inebriatti) <a href="https://twitter.com/inebriatti/status/597927133919444993">May 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/shaunacitynews">@shaunacitynews</a> Plase know those idiots do no represent all TFC supporters. The majority of us have worked hard to make BMO Field inclusive.</p>&mdash; Kings In The North (@KingsInTheNorth) <a href="https://twitter.com/KingsInTheNorth/status/598083343536812032">May 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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I would expect a statement from the club.
I also hope there is a statement from the club and like the supporters groups I hope those idiots get banned.


Nothing is going to get worse. TL was a warning, the next time the boys and their little arts and crafts project will get tossed.
McClown even having the nervous Banner guy on his show was ridiculous, I thought Bob was going to ask him if his mommy and daddy helped him make it.
So, you're only for democracy under certain circumstances then?:


Its a democracy here and thats how it should be, a place where i am free in jest to call the soccer team the "no names" without fear of repercussion right tbone? Long live the worlds 88th best soccer league! :]


There are idiot fans for all teams.
Absolutely. Shauna Hunt said she gets that on a daily basis and many reports have to deal with it now. For whatever reason it has become a viral video thing and unfortunately there are many idiots in this city and around the world that keep doing it. She did a great job confronting those guys and hopefully it is a catalyst for this phenomenon (for a lack of a better word) to stop.


We can sit on a pedestal and laugh at them but don't forget the Argos have idiot fans equal to those knobs as well.
This (http://www.argofans.com/showthread.php?2857-Argonauts-fans-plan-Bon-Jovi-CD-burning-party) wasn't offensive but as an Argos fan I feel it was embarrassing.

[gilthethrill]

No doubt this fellow had one to many that day & most likely regrets his actions. Can't paint all TFC/RPB with the same brush.

[Will]

While the behavior of these individuals is abhorrent one cannot obviously paint the entire Toronto FC fanbase with that brush. Alcohol = debauchery at more sporting events than soccer.

[T-Bone]

Alcohol = debauchery at more sporting events than soccer.
While true, it is not an excuse. Those guys deserve to be banned for x amount of games. I hope gilthethrill is right and they regret their actions. If they truly do, they should go on air with Shauna Hunt and apologize. I would give them credit for that and recommend a shorter ban. Not that I control that, just my opinion.

[Will]

I wasn't trying to present it as an excuse. I was merely trying to avoid soccer being generalized while other sports are left alone. I remember in Miami a few years ago for a Jets-Dolphins game there were those idiots sitting in front of us, hammered, harassing a bunch of Jets fans. There were also incidents reported during the Senators-Canadiens playoff series from a few weeks ago.

[Neely2005]

Well Argonauts fans aren't perfect I haven't witnessed to many incidents at Argonauts games except from Ticats fans. They take boorish behavior to a new level.

Although I did once have people complain that I was making to much noise when our opposition was lining up to start their plays.

[T-Bone]

I wasn't trying to present it as an excuse. I was merely trying to avoid soccer being generalized while other sports are left alone. I remember in Miami a few years ago for a Jets-Dolphins game there were those idiots sitting in front of us, hammered, harassing a bunch of Jets fans. There were also incidents reported during the Senators-Canadiens playoff series from a few weeks ago.
I know you weren't and I apologize if my post came off that way. I was just pointing it out in general. Every sporting event around the world has issues, some worse than others. This particular issue that ArgoRavi posted in this thread (http://www.argofans.com/showthread.php?2436-Argos-at-BMO-Field&p=60026&viewfull=1#post60026) is interesting because it has sadly become a global one. This goes beyond just those few idiots that were at the TFC game on Sunday. It's nice to see that some positives are coming out of Shauna Hunt's confrontation, it is defiantly getting people to talk about it.

[Downtownfan]

Not sure why that link needed to be included. It is enough to say it is indeed, sadly, widespread and deplorable.

[Fumblitis]

Well Argonauts fans aren't perfect I haven't witnessed to many incidents at Argonauts games except from Ticats fans. They take boorish behavior to a new level.

Although I did once have people complain that I was making to much noise when our opposition was lining up to start their plays.That's just plain wrong!

[T-Bone]

Not sure why that link needed to be included. It is enough to say it is indeed, sadly, widespread and deplorable.
I included it as reference in case people were not aware of how widespread this is. I have removed it and people can look it up themselves if they want.

[Wobbler]

Thanks for the edit.

[Neely2005]

That's just plain wrong!

Toronto spectators are used to everyone sitting on their hands.

[T-Bone]

MLSE plans to ban fans who yell obscenties to reporters (http://www.citynews.ca/2015/05/12/mlse-plans-to-ban-fans-who-yell-obscenties-to-reporters/)

[Neely2005]

MLSE plans to ban fans who yell obscenties to reporters (http://www.citynews.ca/2015/05/12/mlse-plans-to-ban-fans-who-yell-obscenties-to-reporters/)

Good. Although I think that getting the police involved is to much, that's a very slippery slope.

[LLB997]

So, you're only for democracy under certain circumstances then?
The fans paid for the seat, not the railing they hung their little banner from.

[Will]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hydro One statement regarding an employee at the TFC game. <a href="http://t.co/qdJAZFgvMa">pic.twitter.com/qdJAZFgvMa</a></p>&mdash; Hydro One (@HydroOne) <a href="https://twitter.com/HydroOne/status/598204636479238144">May 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[T-Bone]

The fans paid for the seat, not the railing they hung their little banner from.
Regardless, even if those fans had wanted to pay for the advertising space on that railing MLSE would have had the right to refuse them or in this case MLSE had the right to remove the content they felt was inappropriate. They pay the city to manage BMO Field and freedom of speech doesn't apply in that situation. Personally, I think the fans that made that banner wasted their time, energy, and money on it. They could have produced something to support the team instead.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-cards="hidden" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hydro One statement regarding an employee at the TFC game. <a href="http://t.co/qdJAZFgvMa">pic.twitter.com/qdJAZFgvMa</a></p>&mdash; Hydro One (@HydroOne) <a href="https://twitter.com/HydroOne/status/598204636479238144">May 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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This is going a little to far in my opinion.

[AngeloV]

This is going a little to far in my opinion.

Maybe it is, but we are all aware at how employers use social media for info on who they hire and obviously people already with the company. You have to be pretty stupid to not think someone of importance is going to see your actions at a televised public event.

[T-Bone]

Maybe it is, but we are all aware at how employers use social media for info on who they hire and obviously people already with the company. You have to be pretty stupid to not think someone of importance is going to see your actions at a televised public event.
True, but I won't be surprised if there is a lawsuit coming. If he was on his own time how can Hydro One justify this legally? One issue leading to another issue here in my opinion. When does social media "justice" go to far?

[BATKINSON001]

They do have the right to protect their public image. Just like the company that employed the guy who masquerades as a soldier.

[jerrym]

The following CBC report on the firing includes a video.



A Hydro One employee has been fired for hurling obscenities at a Toronto reporter, after video of her confronting her hecklers went viral.
"Hydro One is taking steps to terminate the employee for violating our code of conduct," said Hydro One's director of corporate affairs Daffyd Roderick in a statement. "Respect for all people is engrained in the code and our values. We are committed to a work environment where discrimination or harassment of any type is met with zero tolerance."
Shauna Hunt of CityNews was the latest woman targeted by a boorish trend known as FHRITP heckling, when a group of men shouted sexually explicit comments into her microphone as she tried to cover a Toronto FC soccer game.
FHRITP stands for f--k her right in the p---y.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/hydro-one-employee-fired-after-yelling-fhritp-at-citynews-reporter-shauna-hunt-1.3070948

[AngeloV]

True, but I won't be surprised if there is a lawsuit coming. If he was on his own time how can Hydro One justify this legally? One issue leading to another issue here in my opinion. When does social media "justice" go to far?

No chance of winning a lawsuit. Any firm that hires someone has them sign off on things, which include, as mentioned above, a code of conduct. It protects the firm from potential law suits from former employees. Bottom line...Only an idiot would behave in this manner in public today. Everyone has a cell phone and many will not hesitate to use it under these circumstances.

[QBall]

Although I did once have people complain that I was making to much noise when our opposition was lining up to start their plays.

That's when you point your megaphone at the same people and apologize for making so much noise as you forgot you were at a sporting event. :D

[ArgoRavi]

While true, it is not an excuse. Those guys deserve to be banned for x amount of games. I hope gilthethrill is right and they regret their actions. If they truly do, they should go on air with Shauna Hunt and apologize. I would give them credit for that and recommend a shorter ban. Not that I control that, just my opinion.

To MLSE's and TFC's credit, they are taking action against these individuals.

[Neely2005]

To MLSE's and TFC's credit, they are taking action against these individuals.

Agreed but I think it's going to be almost impossible to enforce a stadium ban. It's not like they check your ID when you enter a stadium.

[shayman]

True, but I won't be surprised if there is a lawsuit coming. If he was on his own time how can Hydro One justify this legally? One issue leading to another issue here in my opinion. When does social media "justice" go to far?

Good observation from Steve Maich, head of Rogers Publishing -
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Remember all those papers you signed on your first day of work? One of them said &quot;if you embarrass the company in any way, we can fire you.&quot;</p>&mdash; Steve Maich (@stevemaich) <a href="https://twitter.com/stevemaich/status/598269125329330176">May 12, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[LLB997]

Maybe it is, but we are all aware at how employers use social media for info on who they hire and obviously people already with the company. You have to be pretty stupid to not think someone of importance is going to see your actions at a televised public event.

I am fine with this type of justice

we are living in different times boys, The crap my old man got away with would land me in Jail today.

[T-Bone]

Agreed but I think it's going to be almost impossible to enforce a stadium ban. It's not like they check your ID when you enter a stadium.
This is a good point. How well do stadium bans work? If these guys are season ticket holders they can revoke their tickets which I'm all for. Also I'm sure most people know what these guys look like now. If they don't get stooped at the gate by security someone could probably report them to security pretty easily. No system is perfect. How many people are on the road right now with out a license?


I am fine with this type of justice
Is this justice (http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2015/04/30/britt-mchenry-monica-lewinsky-ben-affleck-julie-wittes-schlack)? It maybe legal for these guys employers to fire them as some of you have pointed out but does the punishment fit the crime? I think something is a little askew when one of these guys has lost his job and the others might as well, yet Rob Ford still has his.

[Neely2005]

This is a good point. How well do stadium bans work? If these guys are season ticket holders they can revoke their tickets which I'm all for. Also I'm sure most people know what these guys look like now. If they don't get stooped at the gate by security someone could probably report them to security pretty easily. No system is perfect. How many people are on the road right now with out a license?


Is this justice (http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2015/04/30/britt-mchenry-monica-lewinsky-ben-affleck-julie-wittes-schlack)? It maybe legal for these guys employers to fire them as some of you have pointed out but does the punishment fit the crime? I think something is a little askew when one of these guys has lost his job and the others might as well, yet Rob Ford still has his.

Even if he has season tickets and they're revoked what's to stop a friend buying them for him?

I think him being fired is total overkill, especially since he didn't actually say F her in the P. He only defended people who did. As to Rob Ford what about Elizabeth May just a few days ago? What she said was worse than this. Also Ezra Levant pointed out that one of this guys Hydro One coworkers recently kept her job after saying that 'the Nazi's should have killed all of the Jews'. So there's some serious hypocrisy going on here.

[Argo]

Even if he has season tickets and they're revoked what's to stop a friend buying them for him?

I think him being fired is total overkill, especially since he didn't actually say F her in the P. He only defended people who did. As to Rob Ford what about Elizabeth May just a few days ago? What she said was worse than this. Also Ezra Levant pointed out that one of this guys Hydro One coworkers recently kept her job after saying that 'the Nazi's should have killed all of the Jews'. So there's some serious hypocrisy going on here.

Speaking of the Jews, their Holocaust (the Gypsies, the handicapped, Soviet POWs, etc., were also exterminated to the best of the Nazis' ability) is a perfect illustration of where vicious thinking, expressed at first as ugly and harassing sentiment, can lead.

[jerrym]

One factor I think may have been involved in the firing of the Hydro One employee is the fact that he made more than $100,000, which means that he almost certainly had other employees underneath him. Whether Hydro One decided to fire him or not, it was going to be sending a message to those employees, especially if they are women (even if they are men, bullies tend to bully wherever they can get away with it and so his bullying intimidation would likely come out to a lesser extent with men when he felt he could get away with it). By firing this employee, they send a message to others. Bullying in the workplace is a major contributor to people quitting, increased sick leave, and poor communication leading to poor decisions as people try to avoid dealing with the bully. So, in addition to the corporation's image with the public, the internal dynamics of an organization are affected, and the more powerful the individual within the corporation, the greater the effects are likely to be.

[Ballstothewall]

One factor I think may have been involved in the firing of the Hydro One employee is the fact that he made more than $100,000, which means that he almost certainly had other employees underneath him. Whether Hydro One decided to fire him or not, it was going to be sending a message to those employees, especially if they are women (even if they are men, bullies tend to bully wherever they can get away with it and so his bullying intimidation would likely come out to a lesser extent with men when he felt he could get away with it). By firing this employee, they send a message to others. Bullying in the workplace is a major contributor to people quitting, increased sick leave, and poor communication leading to poor decisions as people try to avoid dealing with the bully. So, in addition to the corporation's image with the public, the internal dynamics of an organization are affected, and the more powerful the individual within the corporation, the greater the effects are likely to be.

Hydro fired this guy knowing that a lawsuit will soon be filed by the terminated employee and by Hyrdo commenting publicly about the firing , this will help the guy get a few more bucks off Hydro. However hydro decided to is worth it. hydro could be helped out if Police lay a charge agaist the guy also, but either way Hydro will be paying this guy eventually

[LLB997]

This is a good point. How well do stadium bans work? If these guys are season ticket holders they can revoke their tickets which I'm all for. Also I'm sure most people know what these guys look like now. If they don't get stooped at the gate by security someone could probably report them to security pretty easily. No system is perfect. How many people are on the road right now with out a license?


Is this justice (http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2015/04/30/britt-mchenry-monica-lewinsky-ben-affleck-julie-wittes-schlack)? It maybe legal for these guys employers to fire them as some of you have pointed out but does the punishment fit the crime? I think something is a little askew when one of these guys has lost his job and the others might as well, yet Rob Ford still has his.

You summed it up perfectly. If you have big money and big connections then problems go away, Its Joe Average that will always be made an example of. Pretty common knowledge as we see it on the news everyday. Even more reason to behave. These are not children, they should know they would be held to a different standard, They are not the ROFO's of the world. Is it right, No!, good luck changing it. I know well enough to FHRITP behind a closed door, so should these clowns.

[T-Bone]

Even if he has season tickets and they're revoked what's to stop a friend buying them for him?
Nothing. That's why I said:


Also I'm sure most people know what these guys look like now. If they don't get stooped at the gate by security someone could probably report them to security pretty easily. No system is perfect. How many people are on the road right now with out a license?

Apparently if they are banned from the stadium and caught on the premises they can be fined for trespassing just like how things escalate if someone is caught driving with a suspended license.


One factor I think may have been involved in the firing of the Hydro One employee is the fact that he made more than $100,000, which means that he almost certainly had other employees underneath him. Whether Hydro One decided to fire him or not, it was going to be sending a message to those employees, especially if they are women (even if they are men, bullies tend to bully wherever they can get away with it and so his bullying intimidation would likely come out to a lesser extent with men when he felt he could get away with it). By firing this employee, they send a message to others. Bullying in the workplace is a major contributor to people quitting, increased sick leave, and poor communication leading to poor decisions as people try to avoid dealing with the bully. So, in addition to the corporation's image with the public, the internal dynamics of an organization are affected, and the more powerful the individual within the corporation, the greater the effects are likely to be.
There are a lot of assumptions going on there. We have no idea what this person is like at work. Also, they could have warned him, sent him to sensitivity training and if it happened again dismiss him. I think there is a possibility he has learned what he did was wrong.


You summed it up perfectly. If you have big money and big connections then problems go away, Its Joe Average that will always be made an example of. Pretty common knowledge as we see it on the news everyday. Even more reason to behave. These are not children, they should know they would be held to a different standard, They are not the ROFO's of the world. Is it right, No!, good luck changing it. I know well enough to FHRITP behind a closed door, so should these clowns.
The social media mob mentality doesn't help things either. It seems to me society is slipping backwards a little bit. Instead of running into the streets with pitchforks people are running to Twitter etc. with their keyboards. I liked one of Cathal Kelly's tweets on the subject:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There are an awful lot of people who like to warm their hands when someone's life catches fire.</p>&mdash; cathalkelly (@cathalkelly) <a href="https://twitter.com/cathalkelly/status/598289418814935041">May 13, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[1argoholic]

Good on Hydro One and most of all the reporter!!! Now will our rates come down? On a serious note these DORKS who can't handle a few watered down beers deserve to be banned for life and yes canned from their jobs.
I'm the first to admit I've yelled, sworn and carried on like a fool at CFL games back in the day but I've never disrespected a woman with such a vulgar tongue on live tv no less. Great way to impress the ladies, YOU TOOLS!!!!!! Back to your basement with your video games, stupid asses!!
I'm betting Mr Yellowshirt in the video has had the biggest hangover ever. How do you simply apply for a new job after that video is all around the world. Young guy making over 100 grand a year. Those jobs don't just fall from the sky unless you're working at Hydro One. Everyone at Hydro One makes 100 grand.
From what I've witnessed TFC has a serious issue with plenty of it's fans. Just because soccer fans overseas act like dicks doesn't mean you need to copy their actions in North America.

[T-Bone]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFL?src=hash">#CFL</a> has announced that it has fined <a href="https://twitter.com/MTLAlouettes">@MTLAlouettes</a> DL Khalif Mitchell - <a href="http://t.co/SWHuW0gWRJ">http://t.co/SWHuW0gWRJ</a></p>— CFL (@CFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFL/status/598930807756054528">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">CFL, Alouettes levy fines against Khalif Mitchell over tweets <a href="http://t.co/84lnrnQcrm">http://t.co/84lnrnQcrm</a> via <a href="https://twitter.com/TorontoStar">@torontostar</a></p>&mdash; Curtis Rush (@CurtisGRush) <a href="https://twitter.com/CurtisGRush/status/598943872107044864">May 14, 2015</a></blockquote>
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So, does this mean MLSE and Hydro One have more integrity than the CFL and the Allouettes?

[argolio]

It probably means that's the most the league and the Als can do under the CBA, unless the Als end up cutting him.

[T-Bone]

It probably means that's the most the league and the Als can do under the CBA, unless the Als end up cutting him.
Good point. It will be interesting to see if he gets cut then.



In other news:

Q&A: Shauna Hunt on why she stood up to FHRITP (http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/qa-shauna-hunt-on-why-she-stood-up-to-fhritp/)

fans in incident with reporter could face MLS ban too (http://www.torontosun.com/2015/05/14/tfc-fans-in-incident-with-reporter-could-face-mls-ban-too)

Fired Hydro One Employee Apologizes to Shauna Hunt (http://www.citynews.ca/2015/05/15/fired-hydro-one-employee-apologizes-to-shauna-hunt/)

[T-Bone]

Hydro One rehires man who defended 'FHRITP' against CityNews reporter (http://www.citynews.ca/2015/11/02/hydro-one-rehires-man-who-defended-fhritp-against-citynews-reporter/)

[1argoholic]

Obviously another pig gets his job back because of his union. I HATE unions!!! Either that or Hydro is gutless and or cares more about itself than the bigger picture. This slug will be making his big coin again and laughing all the way to the bank and next TFC game.

[Neely2005]

In all fairness the guy who got his job back wasn't the one who made the remarks. He was the one defending his friend who made the remarks.

[R.J]

Obviously another pig gets his job back because of his union. I HATE unions!!!
I'm right there with you.

[Argo57]

Obviously another pig gets his job back because of his union. I HATE unions!!! Either that or Hydro is gutless and or cares more about itself than the bigger picture. This slug will be making his big coin again and laughing all the way to the bank and next TFC game.

Hydro One would be the last organization you would expect to take the moral high ground.

[LLB997]

In all fairness the guy who got his job back wasn't the one who made the remarks. He was the one defending his friend who made the remarks.

He didn't even do that, he defended the guy who watched the guy who said FHRITP. Oh , and they never did find out who the guy who actually said it was.

[1argoholic]

I thought he was the one who defended the one who defended the other one who's brother dated the one who was defended by the guy who's sister wanted to be a reporter and was dating the other guy who was drunk. Who cares they all looked like A$$HOLES.

[T-Bone]

Who cares they all looked like A$$HOLES.
Kind of funny coming from you after some of the stuff you've typed around here over the years. I don't think anyone thinks the guy came off looking very smart but ultimately I don't think he deserved to lose his job over it. Plus, it looks like he has tried to make amends: Shawn Simoes, Man Fired For FHRITP Incident, Rehired By Hydro One (http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2015/11/02/shawn-simoes-hydro-one_n_8453012.html)

Do you not believe in second chances?

[1argoholic]

I would never treat a women like that. There's a difference in not taking this site as seriously as some and disrespecting and treating people like crap when face to face. I never do that. This is a site talking for the most part about sports. Really means squat in the big picture.

I believe in second chances for certain things. Disrespecting a female reporter live on tv, I wouldn't give him a second chance.

[T-Bone]

There's a difference in not taking this site as seriously as some and disrespecting and treating people like crap when face to face. I never do that.
So, it's ok to disrespect people online just not face to face then according to you?

[1argoholic]

Some peoples term of disrespect is obviously different than others. I've had little respect shown to me by you personally pretty much questioning every second thing I post. Paul, Mulder, Wobbler have all ripped my posts in the past. I just believe it comes with the territory when you post your thoughts honestly and openly. Many on here have actually told me they enjoy my posts. On a site like this ones words might come across offensive to some and honest or funny to others. It's difficult to judge while typing crap out on a forum. You can't get along or agree with everyone and that's life. Yes and face to face I don't just walk up and treat people with disrespect like that Hydro swine and his friends. I'm not an English major or a writer who can use words with a professional flare. I just post.

I do realize that I'm not a saint and have posted my share of BS on here. I don't take this site to be the most important thing in my life.

[Argo57]

Some peoples term of disrespect is obviously different than others. I've had little respect shown to me by you personally pretty much questioning every second thing I post. Paul, Mulder, Wobbler have all ripped my posts in the past. I just believe it comes with the territory when you post your thoughts honestly and openly. Many on here have actually told me they enjoy my posts. On a site like this ones words might come across offensive to some and honest or funny to others. It's difficult to judge while typing crap out on a forum. You can't get along or agree with everyone and that's life. Yes and face to face I don't just walk up and treat people with disrespect like that Hydro swine and his friends. I'm not an English major or a writer who can use words with a professional flare. I just post.

I do realize that I'm not a saint and have posted my share of BS on here. I don't take this site to be the most important thing in my life.

Well said sir, I enjoy your posts because you can tell that they are honest and how you feel, that's what keeps things interesting, if we all posted the same shit this site would be pretty boring (and it isn't)!!
The sad thing is societal standards seem to be slipping and the actions by these type of dumb asses are tolerated.

[ArgoZ]

Hydro One rehires man who defended 'FHRITP' against CityNews reporter (http://www.citynews.ca/2015/11/02/hydro-one-rehires-man-who-defended-fhritp-against-citynews-reporter/)

I was surprised at his firing. It shows how how influenced companies can be by the media and public outcry. It is interesting how cowardly executives can act without knowing the legal ramifications. I am not defending his actions, but as a union employee myself, I wouldn't be surprised if he has won his job back receiving ALL retro pay. I hope he learned a lesson, however, it was handled wrong and he likely had almost a years worth paid vacation.

[Double Dare]

Many on here have actually told me they enjoy my posts. I don't take this site to be the most important thing in my life. Think about it ... you too can make BIG money posting on a sports team site in your spare time ... phone 1-888-699-ARGO ... call now!!!

[T-Bone]

Some peoples term of disrespect is obviously different than others.
I guess so since you never apologized to myself, the moderators or Paul for this (http://www.argofans.com/showthread.php?2862-My-last-post!!!&p=51247&viewfull=1#post51247) and other similar posts.


I've had little respect shown to me by you personally pretty much questioning every second thing I post. Paul, Mulder, Wobbler have all ripped my posts in the past. I just believe it comes with the territory when you post your thoughts honestly and openly. Many on here have actually told me they enjoy my posts.
To be fair I've stopped responding to 99% of your posts since I realized you care more to rant than to have a discussion. When I did respond to your posts I don't believe I ever insulted you like the example linked above. I would question your idea or statement, so I apologize if that offended you but it wasn't personal.


On a site like this ones words might come across offensive to some and honest or funny to others. It's difficult to judge while typing crap out on a forum. You can't get along or agree with everyone and that's life.
This is true, I think some people take my opinions far to seriously.


Yes and face to face I don't just walk up and treat people with disrespect like that Hydro swine and his friends. I'm not an English major or a writer who can use words with a professional flare. I just post.
You shouldn't have to be an English major to realize that calling someone swine, etc. is disrespectful face to face or online. Like many I'm not justifying Simoes' actions, what he did was utterly stupid. I think the fact that many of his co-workers men and women wrote positive e-mails about him says something though. People make mistakes, some bigger and stupider mistakes than others but how they deal with such mistakes is also important.


I do realize that I'm not a saint and have posted my share of BS on here. I don't take this site to be the most important thing in my life.
Trust me this site is not the most important thing in my life but I have to take it a little more seriously than you, it comes with the territory of being owner.

[1argoholic]

Oh yah that was a good one for sure. I'm very sure I told all I was sorry for that post or it was shut down so perhaps I didn't. I have no issues in using the word sorry and have used it plenty in my days. Honestly never expected to come on here again after that one but received some pm's asking me to stay.

Sorry to all for that rant and touchy behavior.

Still have no use for people who get second chancing after treating women like shit. Women are treated like crap all over the world and guys like that get a second chance when behind closed doors I'm sure he's having a real laugh with his buddies. I won't even go on about the NFL and how they give second and third chances for abusers. Someone has to make a stand.

[Neely2005]

I thought he was the one who defended the one who defended the other one who's brother dated the one who was defended by the guy who's sister wanted to be a reporter and was dating the other guy who was drunk. Who cares they all looked like A$$HOLES.

Everyone should care. Why should he be reprimanded for something that he didn't do?


So, it's ok to disrespect people online just not face to face then according to you?

And some of those online people would obviously be female.

[T-Bone]

Oh yah that was a good one for sure. I'm very sure I told all I was sorry for that post or it was shut down so perhaps I didn't. I have no issues in using the word sorry and have used it plenty in my days. Honestly never expected to come on here again after that one but received some pm's asking me to stay.

Sorry to all for that rant and touchy behavior.
It was originally pulled for I think obvious reasons. I accept your apology.


Everyone should care. Why should he be reprimanded for something that he didn't do?
He did support the behavior so he is just as guilty. The question should be though, does the punishment fit the crime?


Still have no use for people who get second chancing after treating women like shit. Women are treated like crap all over the world and guys like that get a second chance when behind closed doors I'm sure he's having a real laugh with his buddies. I won't even go on about the NFL and how they give second and third chances for abusers. Someone has to make a stand.
Why are you so sure he is "having a real laugh with his buddies" behind closed doors? The FHRITP trend has happened to both male and female reporters. Personally I think many saw it more as a prank than actually thinking about what the words meant that they were saying. It was Shauna Hunt's reaction to this particular case that got people discussing it as it had been happening for a long time. Hunt just finally got sick of shrugging it off and decided to take action. I'm glad she stood up to it but Simoes ended up becoming the face of the issue when the issue was much larger than just him. A prank and physical or verbal abuse are very different things.

[gilthethrill]

The guy most likely got caught up in the moment after having a few....I get the impression he is sorry for his actions and most certainly has learned his lesson.