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http://www.cfl.ca/2016/04/22/cfl-nfl-partner-form-officiating-development-program/
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000655191/article/nfl-cfl-announce-joint-officiating-program
http://www.900chml.com/2016/04/22/69371/
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/22/nfl-officials-to-work-in-cfl-games-this-summer/
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/nfl/nfl-cfl-officials-1.3548140
http://www.tsn.ca/talent/cfl-nfl-announce-officiating-partnership-1.476413
More reps for refs on each side of the border. CFL refs will attend NFL training camps and education sessions before working pre-season games in the NFL, and NFL-trained referees will officiate pre- and regular-season games in the CFL . Orridge is trying to make positive change and good on him for that, but still one major move he has to make imo.
paulwoods13
04-22-2016, 01:02 PM
Orridge is trying to make positive change and good on him for that, but still one major move he has to make imo.
I'm sure you've said before but can you remind me what that move is?
I just read http://www.tsn.ca/cfl-nfl-announce-officiating-partnership-1.476413
and I like what I read.
CFL officiating has been too often toxic far too long.
I'm sure you've said before but can you remind me what that move is?
Johnson given the boot. More penalties are being called now than ever before and IMO that's on him, the GM's and Head Coaches of the CFL. He just fired and demoted quite a few officials - I wonder why he's not held accountable for whats gone on.
jerrym
04-22-2016, 02:38 PM
Anything that improves the officiating is fine with me. Hopefully we will see a difference this year.
AngeloV
04-22-2016, 02:48 PM
I have 2 issues with CFL officiating. The first being when the head ref seems very confused in making his call over the mic. That falls on said official.
The other being the way roughing the passer is often called. I get that QB's are supposed to be protected, but I've literally seen a player trying to avoid a QB and barely even touching him called as a RTP. That is ridiculous. That falls on Johnson for poor interpretation of what the call should be.
jerrym
04-22-2016, 02:52 PM
I have 2 issues with CFL officiating. The first being when the head ref seems very confused in making his call over the mic. That falls on said official.
The other being the way roughing the passer is often called. I get that QB's are supposed to be protected, but I've literally seen a player trying to avoid a QB and barely even touching him called as a RTP. That is ridiculous. That falls on Johnson for poor interpretation of what the call should be.
I agree fully with both of your comments.
The other being the way roughing the passer is often called. I get that QB's are supposed to be protected, but I've literally seen a player trying to avoid a QB and barely even touching him called as a RTP. That is ridiculous. That falls on Johnson for poor interpretation of what the call should be.
This is one of my biggest issues with Johnson. I recall he was asked about the roughing the passing call on a CFL on TSN segment and Johnson's reply was "we're not calling it any different".
AngeloV
04-22-2016, 04:10 PM
This is one of my biggest issues with Johnson. I recall he was asked about the roughing the passing call on a CFL on TSN segment and Johnson's reply was "we're not calling it any different".
Which was a blatant lie. All you need to do is look at games from 5 years ago to know it's being called differently.
Which was a blatant lie. All you need to do is look at games from 5 years ago to know it's being called differently.
No kidding.
Argo57
04-22-2016, 06:42 PM
I have 2 issues with CFL officiating. The first being when the head ref seems very confused in making his call over the mic. That falls on said official.
The other being the way roughing the passer is often called. I get that QB's are supposed to be protected, but I've literally seen a player trying to avoid a QB and barely even touching him called as a RTP. That is ridiculous. That falls on Johnson for poor interpretation of what the call should be.
Agree with your statements Angelo, but if your going to get RTP penalty you might as well step into the QB and get your money's worth.
RTP in the NFL seems to be called when justified much like the CFL was a few years ago.
jerrym
04-22-2016, 09:32 PM
Canadian Centre for Ethics in Sport (CCES) President Paul Melia discusses in the following article what he likes about the new policy but feels it needs to be more transparent and independent.
http://www.pressreader.com
AngeloV
04-23-2016, 09:13 AM
Agree with your statements Angelo, but if your going to get RTP penalty you might as well step into the QB and get your money's worth.
RTP in the NFL seems to be called when justified much like the CFL was a few years ago.
Exactly. As someone who watches and enjoys both leagues, it's very frustrating seeing what is called RTP sometimes in the CFL. There used to be a 2 step rule after the ball was released. Then it became 1 step, and now it appears to be none.
gilthethrill
04-23-2016, 10:22 AM
Does this mean that AV's favourite CFL official, Tom Valessi has been promoted to the NFL?? :)
Argo57
04-23-2016, 11:22 AM
Exactly. As someone who watches and enjoys both leagues, it's very frustrating seeing what is called RTP sometimes in the CFL. There used to be a 2 step rule after the ball was released. Then it became 1 step, and now it appears to be none.
Now even when the defender in the CFL tries to avoid the QB and bumps him he gets flagged, this is beyond stupid and involves zero common sense.
I will give Orridge credit on this initiative for acknowledging what us fans have known for quite sometime, CFL officiating has been embarrassing for the last few seasons and badly needs improvement if they want any credibility moving forward.
AngeloV
04-23-2016, 12:07 PM
Does this mean that AV's favourite CFL official, Tom Valessi has been promoted to the NFL?? :)
Hey...Foxcroft is my favourite. He was the ring announcer when I did some local cable wrestling shows in Hamilton in the 90's, while his brother Steve and Bubba O'Neil called the action.
Funny story...I give Foxcroft crap on twitter all the time, and he pm's me and asks me to give it to Valessi.
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/winnipeg-1290/johnson-new-nfl-cfl-deal-a-development-plan-not-a-takeover-plan-1.476826
Hey...Foxcroft is my favourite. He was the ring announcer when I did some local cable wrestling shows in Hamilton in the 90's, while his brother Steve and Bubba O'Neil called the action.
Funny story...I give Foxcroft crap on twitter all the time, and he pm's me and asks me to give it to Valessi.
Vallesi deserves it. He was horrible - especially during Argonaut games for some reason.
http://www.newstalk770.com/2016/04/26/glen-johnson-the-cfl-nfl-exchange/
NFL official working Canadian games has CFL experience – as a player
http://3downnation.com/2016/06/07/nfl-official-working-canadian-games-cfl-experience-player/
doubleblue
06-09-2016, 12:31 AM
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear anything about US officials working in tonight's game. I'm sure Rod Black would have been all over it, if there was any. Maybe we will see them more on week end games.
AngeloV
06-09-2016, 12:37 AM
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't hear anything about US officials working in tonight's game. I'm sure Rod Black would have been all over it, if there was any. Maybe we will see them more on week end games.
There was 1 working side judge. They made mention of it in the 3rd quarter.
ArgoRavi
06-09-2016, 12:17 PM
NFL official working Canadian games has CFL experience – as a player
http://3downnation.com/2016/06/07/nfl-official-working-canadian-games-cfl-experience-player/
Dave Foxcroft is one of the officials they are sending to train in the NFL? I wonder how they will like him down there.
BTW, speaking of former CFL players turned officials, whatever happened to Dave Donaldson? I thought he was progressing as a CFL official but he did not do any games last year.
AngeloV
06-09-2016, 01:29 PM
Dave Foxcroft is one of the officials they are sending to train in the NFL? I wonder how they will like him down there.
BTW, speaking of former CFL players turned officials, whatever happened to Dave Donaldson? I thought he was progressing as a CFL official but he did not do any games last year.
The NFL is familiar with Foxcroft. He used to work the yard sticks in Buffalo before he became a CFL official. His father has great connections.
By the way, I see Valessi was in mid season form last night. He called a penalty on Montreal, but motioned as if it was Winnipeg that got the penalty. Idiot.
jerrym
05-18-2017, 01:58 AM
The NFL and CFL are expanding their joint official development program.
Troy Vincent, the NFL’s executive vice-president of football operations, says working together to develop a sustainable pipeline of experienced officials makes good sense for both leagues.
A total of six NFL officials, up from four, will work with CFL crews in June and July before the NFL’s annual officiating clinic in July. The number of CFL officials doubles to six in the NFL’s officiating development program, which includes attending NFL minicamps and training camps, officiating preseason games in the CFL and college football.
A back judge will join the side and field judges used in the CFL last year.
http://3downnation.com/2017/05/16/nfl-cfl-expand-program-designed-develop-officials/
doubleblue
05-18-2017, 11:26 AM
The NFL and CFL are expanding their joint official development program.
http://3downnation.com/2017/05/16/nfl-cfl-expand-program-designed-develop-officials/
I believe working some CFL games last year was an eye opening for the US officials. Especially the speed of the game.
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