View Full Version : Stefan Ptaszek to be named Ticats OC
ArgoGabe22
05-04-2016, 06:25 PM
Can't wait to hear from OV.
http://3downnation.com/2016/05/04/macs-ptaszek-set-named-ticats-oc/
paulwoods13
05-04-2016, 06:39 PM
Such a shame Stefan has become a GOB at such a young age.
Ptaszek did a fantastic job with the Marauders program - if true/once confirmed; the Ticats made a fantastic hire IMO.
OV Argo
05-04-2016, 07:28 PM
Ptaszek did a fantastic job with the Marauders program - if true/once confirmed; the Ticats made a fantastic hire IMO.
He was also a very sharp OC for a Laurier team that won a Vanier with a smart, diverse offence.
Will be kinda sad to see him forced to be a GOB, but I guess he is hoping for a CFL HC job down the road ?
PullTogether73
05-04-2016, 07:36 PM
Since I see the reference to GOBs often in this forum, referring to anyone who works in the CFL, I think the real GOBs are the cranky old men who post here using the acronym GOB.:p
So as I've long thought; GOB = most football operational employees currently in the CFL - GM, asst gm, scouts, HC, OC, DC, position coach, etc.
OV Argo
05-04-2016, 08:37 PM
So as I've long thought; GOB = most football operational employees currently in the CFL - GM, asst gm, scouts, HC, OC, DC, position coach, etc.
Pretty hard not to be one to be employed in the league I would think. I guess there could be closet non-GOBs employed though ;o) Change there would have to come from high at the top - an owner best way, but maybe a radical, heretic of a GM could do the trick.
Do you think Ptaszek is going to show-up to work and tell Kenty and Tillspin, that he likes a varied offence, with 2 back sets, QB under centre some of the time, deploying a fullback or tight end lots, plenty of ground game ? Even if he believed in such things as staples of an offence (and Mac seemed to run a fairly standard pro offence - just with a bit more ground game than the CFL), do you think he could tell Kenty and Tillspin to stuff it, I'll call the offence my way ? = not a chance. Next thing he'd be going crazy and asking to draft or try-out a Canadian QB, or wanting more than 7 NIs only pencilled-in for playing time - silly stuff like that. It's GOB behaviour or the highway.
:p
ArgoRavi
05-05-2016, 01:43 AM
Pretty hard not to be one to be employed in the league I would think. I guess there could be closet non-GOBs employed though ;o) Change there would have to come from high at the top - an owner best way, but maybe a radical, heretic of a GM could do the trick.
Do you think Ptaszek is going to show-up to work and tell Kenty and Tillspin, that he likes a varied offence, with 2 back sets, QB under centre some of the time, deploying a fullback or tight end lots, plenty of ground game ? Even if he believed in such things as staples of an offence (and Mac seemed to run a fairly standard pro offence - just with a bit more ground game than the CFL), do you think he could tell Kenty and Tillspin to stuff it, I'll call the offence my way ? = not a chance. Next thing he'd be going crazy and asking to draft or try-out a Canadian QB, or wanting more than 7 NIs only pencilled-in for playing time - silly stuff like that. It's GOB behaviour or the highway.
:p
Not surprising to see OV already positioning the situation in such a way that it will be everyone's fault but Ptaszek's if he doesn't run a "CIS-style" offence and he is unsuccessful.
doubleblue
05-05-2016, 09:57 AM
Since I see the reference to GOBs often in this forum, referring to anyone who works in the CFL, I think the real GOBs are the cranky old men who post here using the acronym GOB.:p
I resemble that. :(
It's official.
http://ticats.ca/?p=32560
jerrym
05-05-2016, 01:24 PM
As a former Argo, I would like to have wished him well, but not as a coach of the archenemy.
Five reasons why the Ptaszek hire makes sense for Ticats
http://3downnation.com/2016/05/05/five-reasons-why-the/
OV Argo
05-05-2016, 08:05 PM
Not surprising to see OV already positioning the situation in such a way that it will be everyone's fault but Ptaszek's if he doesn't run a "CIS-style" offence and he is unsuccessful.
Yeah - maybe if the Ticats offence is no good this season, Ptaszek could be the fall guy and get blamed and rail-roaded out of Hamiton to spare Kenty or Tillspin; like what happened with Greg Marshall there (Coach of the year in turning around a brutal Ronnie led 1 & 17 team, then has a couple of not so good seasons - then fired with all kinds of stories how he just wasn't ready for the oh so sophisticated CFL - being a Canadian and all).
I'm surprised Ravi that your types have not already opined how this is a questionable or iffy move by the Ticats - giving this Canadian coach an OC position right away ? - shouldn't have he apprenticed first as a position coach, before being given such responsibility to run a "complex" CFL offence. ;o)
:bored:
Yeah - maybe if the Ticats offence is no good this season, Ptaszek could be the fall guy and get blamed and rail-roaded out of Hamiton to spare Kenty or Tillspin; like what happened with Greg Marshall there (Coach of the year in turning around a brutal Ronnie led 1 & 17 team, then has a couple of not so good seasons - then fired with all kinds of stories how he just wasn't ready for the oh so sophisticated CFL - being a Canadian and all).
I'm surprised Ravi that your types have not already opined how this is a questionable or iffy move by the Ticats - giving this Canadian coach an OC position right away ? - shouldn't have he apprenticed first as a position coach, before being given such responsibility to run a "complex" CFL offence. ;o)
http://ticats.ca/transcription-season-preview-conference-call/
Drew Edwards (Hamilton Spectator, 3Down Nation): Hi, my question is for Kent. Kent, I’m wondering how the search for a new offensive coordinator is going and whether you have made any determinations around what that person’s responsibilities are going to be going forward. Are you still in a situation where you think you may be the head coach, vice-president of football operations and potentially offensive coordinator, calling plays as well? Is that still on the table?
Kent Austin: Yes. All of the above is on the table. We are very, very close to an announcement. Things aren’t finalized yet, but I would be prepared for some news very soon. I’m very excited about the potential of the gentleman that we are bringing in. The second part of your question, with respect to how the offence is going to be run and the responsibilities that are divvied up within the staff, will be determined primarily on how quickly that gentleman can come up the curve and learn what we do. I’ll work very closely with him in a very short lead time to determine what makes sense to delegate, and what I have to take on, if anything, to make sure that when we take the field we have the most competitive offence possible on the football field and get our guys prepared.
KCargosfan
05-05-2016, 08:37 PM
This kind of confirms the CFL is damned if you do, damned if you don't from OVA's perspective. Come on, man, have some joy for one of your CIS boys. And maybe give Hamilton a shred of credit.
paulwoods13
05-05-2016, 09:01 PM
like what happened with Greg Marshall there (Coach of the year in turning around a brutal Ronnie led 1 & 17 team, then has a couple of not so good seasons - then fired with all kinds of stories how he just wasn't ready for the oh so sophisticated CFL - being a Canadian and all).
I would love to see an example of this. Far from "all kinds of stories," I don't recall a single one with that angle.
OV Argo
05-05-2016, 09:23 PM
This kind of confirms the CFL is damned if you do, damned if you don't from OVA's perspective. Come on, man, have some joy for one of your CIS boys. And maybe give Hamilton a shred of credit.
Believe I've posted several times here in the past - re good CFL coaching candidates - that Ptaszek would be a very good hire - success as an OC with Laurier (wins a Vanier), then more success with the Marauders as a HC (wins a Vanier).
Congrats to him; Tillspin & Kenty maybe made a real sharp move here - had to do something quick with their former OC leaving.
Paul might not recall "stories" about Greg Marshall deserving to be fired - maybe not here - but I assure you there were tons of them on CFL fan forums - along the lines of no nothing Canadian coach not good enough for the CFL.
KCargosfan
05-06-2016, 03:32 AM
Congrats to him; Tillspin & Kenty maybe made a real sharp move here - had to do something quick with their former OC leaving.
Fair point. But this has to at least be a positive step for CIS coaches in general I would guess.
paulwoods13
05-06-2016, 08:20 AM
Paul might not recall "stories" about Greg Marshall deserving to be fired - maybe not here - but I assure you there were tons of them on CFL fan forums - along the lines of no nothing Canadian coach not good enough for the CFL.
Good that you put "stories" in quotes. Fan posts on forums are not even remotely comparable to what I believe most people consider stories: reporting produced by journalists. I don't believe a single journalist ever wrote Marshall "just wasn't ready for the oh so sophisticated CFL - being a Canadian and all." Which is a much different statement than he "deserved to be fired."
http://www.tsn.ca/ptaszek-it-s-been-a-crazy-couple-of-weeks-1.484960
http://ticats.ca/video/coach-ptaszek-may-6
http://ticats.ca/video/coach-austin-may-6
OV Argo
05-06-2016, 05:16 PM
Good that you put "stories" in quotes. Fan posts on forums are not even remotely comparable to what I believe most people consider stories: reporting produced by journalists. I don't believe a single journalist ever wrote Marshall "just wasn't ready for the oh so sophisticated CFL - being a Canadian and all." Which is a much different statement than he "deserved to be fired."
IMO - you get a much wider range of opinion, plus will find a lot more CFL knowledgeable posters (once you wade thru a lot of iffy posts) on CFL fan forums than you will ever get from "football reporters" in Canada = IMO basically a polite group of sheep who will bleat what CFL officials or team shills tell them, and who are either unable to form their own individual opinions about football (don't know enough about the game/league) or else afraid to give them.
paulwoods13
05-06-2016, 07:22 PM
IMO - you get a much wider range of opinion, plus will find a lot more CFL knowledgeable posters (once you wade thru a lot of iffy posts) on CFL fan forums than you will ever get from "football reporters" in Canada = IMO basically a polite group of sheep who will bleat what CFL officials or team shills tell them, and who are either unable to form their own individual opinions about football (don't know enough about the game/league) or else afraid to give them.
How does being a sheep differ from repeating the same "contrary" opinions over and over?
OV Argo
05-06-2016, 09:39 PM
How does being a sheep differ from repeating the same "contrary" opinions over and over?
Not sure.
Why don't you name for me all the fine CFL "journalists" who regularly report on the CFL with individual opinions of their own and who show in depth football knowledge - I would like to check some of these guys out, but I do not know of any. Meanwhile - I'm OK with reading various CFL fan forums where I can find commentators whose football knowledge and own opinions I respect or find interesting = lots of guys here (like Rich or doubleblue or 57 or Ravi or AV to name just a few), plus many others on some of the other CFL forums I check out. The standard party line, cliched CFL speak I hear from most media commentators I can do without - boring !
KCargosfan
05-07-2016, 03:08 AM
Not sure.
Meanwhile - I'm OK with reading various CFL fan forums where I can find commentators whose football knowledge and own opinions I respect or find interesting = lots of guys here (like Rich or doubleblue or 57 or Ravi or AV to name just a few), plus many others on some of the other CFL forums I check out.
I'm offended I was not on this list :D
paulwoods13
05-07-2016, 08:41 AM
The standard party line
You object to journalists' "party line," yet never veer from your own world view, and repeat it ad infinitum. How does that differ from what you complain about?
OV Argo
05-07-2016, 09:39 AM
You object to journalists' "party line," yet never veer from your own world view, and repeat it ad infinitum. How does that differ from what you complain about?
"world view" - WTF?
More like, you don't like to hear anything but CFL standard party line and cliched wisdom, and will object to different views ad infinitum. Why don't you stick to reading big truth tellers like "journalists" ?
zontar
05-07-2016, 11:25 AM
It isnt Ptazsek's role to design or install a new offense. One is in place. His job will to make it coachable and coherent and make sure the the plays are understandable and get communicated on time from the booth.
Not an offensive guru but Kent's assistant in every sense of the word. Not so much for his football knowledge but his ability to lead players and make them believe in the system.
OV Argo
05-07-2016, 12:05 PM
It isnt Ptazsek's role to design or install a new offense. One is in place. His job will to make it coachable and coherent and make sure the the plays are understandable and get communicated on time from the booth.
Not an offensive guru but Kent's assistant in every sense of the word. Not so much for his football knowledge but his ability to lead players and make them believe in the system.
Yes - and an experienced coach for those offensive duties; also a guy with local roots or history. Might turn out to be a great hire.
Some have commented re veteran Canadian/CIS coaches that they would be too comfortable & secure in their CIS gigs to want to go to the CFL, and that was why we didn't see too many of them in the CFL. Not in this case I guess.
Argo57
05-07-2016, 12:43 PM
Yes - and an experienced coach for those offensive duties; also a guy with local roots or history. Might turn out to be a great hire.
Some have commented re veteran Canadian/CIS coaches that they would be too comfortable & secure in their CIS gigs to want to go to the CFL, and that was why we didn't see too many of them in the CFL. Not in this case I guess.
Great hire for the Ticats, makes sense for Ptaszek as well, moving from Mac to the Ticats no family upheaval coupled with the lure of being a pro coach.
My understanding is Ptaszek will basically run Austin's offence but will eventually incorporate some of his schemes as well.
Difficult thing for Ptaszek may be the transition from man in charge to Doing as Austin says, he (Austin) seems like an arrogant control freak which may make the adjustment difficult.
zontar
05-07-2016, 12:47 PM
Great hire for the Ticats, makes sense for Ptaszek as well, moving from Mac to the Ticats no family upheaval coupled with the lure of being a pro coach.
My understanding is Ptaszek will basically run Austin's offence but will eventually incorporate some of his schemes as well.
Difficult thing for Ptaszek may be the transition from man in charge to Doing as Austin says, he (Austin) seems like an arrogant control freak which may make the adjustment difficult.
Dont you want your head coach to be a "control freak" ? Isnt that his job ?
OV Argo
05-07-2016, 03:12 PM
Great hire for the Ticats, makes sense for Ptaszek as well, moving from Mac to the Ticats no family upheaval coupled with the lure of being a pro coach.
My understanding is Ptaszek will basically run Austin's offence but will eventually incorporate some of his schemes as well.
Difficult thing for Ptaszek may be the transition from man in charge to Doing as Austin says, he (Austin) seems like an arrogant control freak which may make the adjustment difficult.
We shall see i guess - maybe Kenty doesn't need any assistant coaches, he could run the whole show himself, especially on offfence. ;o)
And Ptaszek seemed like a fiery kind of guy who gets worked up at times, from seeing his CIS sideline demeanour; staying up in the booth and just being a quiet Kenty aid might be better to avoid some sideline clashes ?
paulwoods13
05-07-2016, 04:05 PM
"world view" - WTF?
More like, you don't like to hear anything but CFL standard party line and cliched wisdom, and will object to different views ad infinitum. Why don't you stick to reading big truth tellers like "journalists" ?
As I was saying ...
Argo57
05-07-2016, 05:03 PM
Dont you want your head coach to be a "control freak" ? Isnt that his job ?
No different than any company, the HC paints the overall picture, hires good people to carry out the plan and let's them do their jobs.
Most good managers at any company make their people accountable but don't micro manage, don't get that vibe from Austin.
Argo57
05-07-2016, 05:10 PM
We shall see i guess - maybe Kenty doesn't need any assistant coaches, he could run the whole show himself, especially on offfence. ;o)
And Ptaszek seemed like a fiery kind of guy who gets worked up at times, from seeing his CIS sideline demeanour; staying up in the booth and just being a quiet Kenty aid might be better to avoid some sideline clashes ?
Probably the best thing Ptaszek could do is walk into Kent's office bow in front of Austin and say "enlighten me with your vast knowledge o great one".
OV Argo
05-07-2016, 09:04 PM
I'm offended I was not on this list :D
But you would be if I had taken the time to name all the posters' whose comments I enjoy reading here; so would Paul for that matter. ;o)
:D
zontar
05-07-2016, 09:34 PM
All I know is HAM has no problem in attracting talent with Austin at the helm. They respond to him and play for him and his assistants seem just fine working under him.
It seems the only people who dont "get" Austin are the least knowledgeable and farthest removed from what actually goes on there.
OV Argo
05-07-2016, 09:50 PM
All I know is HAM has no problem in attracting talent with Austin at the helm. They respond to him and play for him and his assistants seem just fine working under him.
It seems the only people who dont "get" Austin are the least knowledgeable and farthest removed from what actually goes on there.
Hard to argue with 2 straight GC appearances and almost a 3rd (Gascon-Nadon hangs onto to that Blank gift pick offering, and when they had to go with back-up QB that game); also won a GC as HC with the Riders = guess Kenty must be doing something right - even if he comes across as a smug little **** a lot of the time.
:shhhh:
Argo57
05-07-2016, 10:02 PM
All I know is HAM has no problem in attracting talent with Austin at the helm. They respond to him and play for him and his assistants seem just fine working under him.
It seems the only people who dont "get" Austin are the least knowledgeable and farthest removed from what actually goes on there.
That whole organization has done a good job rebuilding since the Cortez regime, I had season tickets in Hamilton last season and saw it first hand.
However I stand by my assessment, he often conducts himself during the game like a spoiled petulant jackass.
Also a well known fact he wasn't a very popular teammate during his playing days but I guess those teammates were the "least knowledgeable and far removed" from that situation as well.
zontar
05-08-2016, 06:47 AM
Thought we were talking about austin as a coach.
As a fan I couldnt care less what is attitude is or how big his ego is as long as he delivers and players continue to buy in. How he acts or how many people dont like him is completely irrelevent to me.
Argo57
05-08-2016, 07:27 AM
Thought we were talking about austin as a coach.
As a fan I couldnt care less what is attitude is or how big his ego is as long as he delivers and players continue to buy in. How he acts or how many people dont like him is completely irrelevent to me.
Fair points Zontar as a Hamilton fan one would expect your perspective, I much preferred Cortez personally!!
Like anything winning and success cures all.
KCargosfan
05-08-2016, 04:34 PM
Thought we were talking about austin as a coach.
As a fan I couldnt care less what is attitude is or how big his ego is as long as he delivers and players continue to buy in. How he acts or how many people dont like him is completely irrelevent to me.
So you're OK with Austin being a complete douche to Ti-Cats beat writer Drew Edwards?
zontar
05-08-2016, 06:08 PM
So you're OK with Austin being a complete douche to Ti-Cats beat writer Drew Edwards?
Why does a fan have to take sides at all ?. Why does the media need to be coddled or comforted ?
And if i did it would be the one with actual working knowledge of the game and not the one with 1/800th of the knowledge.
zontar
05-08-2016, 06:10 PM
Fair points Zontar as a Hamilton fan one would expect your perspective, I much preferred Cortez personally!!
Like anything winning and success cures all.
All I care about is success. Whether the coach is a nice guy or likeable to outside people is a silly minor detail in my opinion
Argo57
05-08-2016, 06:29 PM
All I care about is success. Whether the coach is a nice guy or likeable to outside people is a silly minor detail in my opinion
As long as he wins you are correct, if the team's performance slides the fans will turn on him quickly.
jerrym
05-08-2016, 07:41 PM
One question is how will the relationship between Austin and Ptaszek develops.
If there's a risk in hiring Stefan Ptaszek as the new offensive co-ordinator of the Hamilton Tiger-Cats, it's this: Kent Austin doesn't really know the man.
Which doesn't mean there isn't a connection.
It began in 1994 when Ptaszek was the ninth overall pick in the CFL draft, selected as a receiver out of Wilfrid Laurier by B.C. Lions, whose general manager was Eric Tillman. He arrived at rookie camp later that spring to work out with the other first-year players and the team's quarterbacks: starter Kent Austin and backup Danny McManus.
Ptaszek would hurt himself in training camp and return to Laurier for a final year so he never played a game with Austin. ...
"I was retired for three years and I wanted to come back and have a better experience, and the first person I called was Eric Tillman," Ptaszek said. "He not only drafted me, he gave my second chance.
"He's a mentor and someone that I have reached out to throughout my career to ask questions. Kent's friendship with Eric holds high, high value with me."
Ptaszek also saw the family side of Austin when his son Wes, a local high school football player, visited McMaster for a recruiting visit a month ago. This wasn't Austin the coach but instead Austin in Dad mode.
"He was so focused on his son's academics and making sure that he was going to be in the right environment," Ptaszek said. "Seeing him as a father, the respect for the son's career, his support for him provided as much insight into the human being as I could possibly have."
Even Ptaszek's wife, Karen, had her own sense of Austin. A producer for TSN, she was an editor on a series of roundtable discussions among CFL coaches that featured Austin and appeared on the network last year. She also knows Tillman from his time as an analyst on the network.
It was all these small threads woven together — along with five hours' worth of interviews and film breakdown — that has allowed Austin and Ptaszek to feel confident that the partnership can work. ...
Generally speaking, head coaches have well-established working relationships with their co-ordinators, in the same way that many organizations often prefer to hire within. The man Ptaszek is replacing, Tommy Condell, worked with Austin for three seasons at Cornell University, then three more in Hamilton. The new offensive line coach, Mike Markuson, was with Austin at Ole Miss.
Ptaszek, who is coming in after becoming a highly successful head coach at McMaster, understands the uniqueness of his situation and the potential pitfalls. But his answer in addressing those concerns was, well, Austinesque.
"There are things you can control and things you can't. What you can control is the people you can work with, and the skill set that you have. With the team that we have and how committed I am to making this work, I think this is a risk worth taking."
http://www.thespec.com/sports-story/6543244-hamilton-tiger-cats-stefan-ptasek-and-kent-austin-need-to-become-fast-friends/
jerrym
05-08-2016, 07:46 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ptaszek discusses his history in <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HamOnt?src=hash">#HamOnt</a> and his first steps with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Ticats?src=hash">#Ticats</a>.<br><br>1-ON-1 > <a href="https://t.co/pzaZsdKNlQ">https://t.co/pzaZsdKNlQ</a> <a href="https://t.co/f9jfTQqSqQ">pic.twitter.com/f9jfTQqSqQ</a></p>— Hamilton Tiger-Cats (@Ticats) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ticats/status/729037934721179648">May 7, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
KCargosfan
05-08-2016, 11:11 PM
Why does a fan have to take sides at all ?. Why does the media need to be coddled or comforted ?
And if i did it would be the one with actual working knowledge of the game and not the one with 1/800th of the knowledge.
Who said the media needs to be coddled or comforted? Austin was a complete jackass to Edwards, who is basically a walking advertisement for the team. Personally, I wouldn't want Austin as a GM or coach. Dude is a complete douche of a human being.
paulwoods13
05-09-2016, 07:03 AM
It is possible to be civil to the journalists who cover your team and in effect give it gobs of free publicity. The examples of this are legion; fortunately the examples of dickish behaviour (Tortorella, Austin) are relatively few.
zontar
05-09-2016, 07:25 AM
It is possible to be civil to the journalists who cover your team and in effect give it gobs of free publicity. The examples of this are legion; fortunately the examples of dickish behaviour (Tortorella, Austin) are relatively few.
He is. Austin haters want to cherry-pick the times he's not "civil" so their bias against him can be confirmed and not have to suffer the discomfort of being shown to be wrong.
Love him. Hate him. Fans can do what they like. I couldnt care less.
paulwoods13
05-09-2016, 08:36 AM
He has been far from civil on multiple occasions. It reflects on him, not the journalists he treats like dirt from time to time. It's possible to be civil *always*, not just when it suits you. Countless coaches and managers in sports are proof of that. No doubt Milanovich would happily never spend another minute of his life with Zicarelli but he still treats him courteously. If Austin is incapable of that, it's a reflection of poor character.
Double Dare
05-09-2016, 09:07 AM
... and then there is Milanovich ... NO personality.
PullTogether73
05-09-2016, 10:09 AM
... and then there is Milanovich ... NO personality.
Same as comments above...I don't care if Milanovich has personality for the media or fans - as long as his teams win.
rdavies
05-09-2016, 06:20 PM
Maybe the Cats just hired their next HC, waiting for the time Kenny gets a little too big for his britches when the win/loss record falters. That might not be how Tillman sees it but that might be in the back of Bob Young's mind.
rdavies
05-09-2016, 06:25 PM
Hard to argue with 2 straight GC appearances and almost a 3rd (Gascon-Nadon hangs onto to that Blank gift pick offeringI've never liked how Nadon played the visible goat for this when two DBs allowed a ridiculous TD to happen and they escape all blame.
zontar
05-09-2016, 11:58 PM
I've never liked how Nadon played the visible goat for this when two DBs allowed a ridiculous TD to happen and they escape all blame.
One of the DBs, Ed Gainey, is no longer on the club. Not a coincidence.
Argo57
05-10-2016, 12:27 AM
... and then there is Milanovich ... NO personality.
Thankfully Milanovich has a completely different style than the guy in Hamilton, given the Argonaut ownership situation in the last few seasons his steady (some say boring) personality has served this organization well!
I'm glad we have him!
argolio
05-10-2016, 12:45 AM
... and then there is Milanovich ... NO personality.Clearly you haven't seen him in training camp.
OV Argo
05-10-2016, 06:58 PM
Maybe the Cats just hired their next HC, waiting for the time Kenny gets a little too big for his britches when the win/loss record falters. That might not be how Tillman sees it but that might be in the back of Bob Young's mind.
Can't see Bob-O pulling that kind of move - the Pussycats would have to go 0 & 18 before Tillspin & Kenty get canned there; and given they have had good success the past few years, it might take more than one 0 & 18 season.
Could see Ptaszek possibly replacing O'Shea down the road if Mike cannot put together a winning season for the Bummers; that's IF Miller & Walters survive too - they might hire a former CIS HC to be their HC ?
KCargosfan
05-11-2016, 03:28 AM
He is. Austin haters want to cherry-pick the times he's not "civil" so their bias against him can be confirmed and not have to suffer the discomfort of being shown to be wrong.
Love him. Hate him. Fans can do what they like. I couldnt care less.
Oh, please show us how we're wrong. There's no cherry-picking, rarely do you ever see coaches be as big a prick to anyone in the media as Austin is at least a few times a year. Maybe he can go back to "accidentally" bumping Dave Stala on the sideline again like a middle school bully.
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