why are the argos the lest active team in every off-season in regards to making news

[eiben35]

It seems like every franchise is doing something to either improve their club or the make some news up. Argos.ca should hire a writer to send some info out. This franchise needs to make things happen. I've never been more bored as a life long fan. Want one of Milo or Barker gone. Thoughts?

[Argo57]

Could explain why they are routinely at the bottom of the league in attendance and merchandise sales, out of sight out of mind.

[ArgoGabe22]

What have the Ticats done? redblacks? Stampeders? Riders?

[Wobbler]

And what has Edmonton done other than lose key players to the NFL? Re-up a couple of guys, just like us.

I'd call this selective perception.

[gilthethrill]

What have the Ticats done? redblacks? Stampeders? Riders?

Pretty sure Ottawa has announced that their entire coaching staff will return....I think Calgary may have done the same. The Argos are quiet but something about our coaching staff should be brought up in January......should be.

[Argo57]

And what has Edmonton done other than lose key players to the NFL? Re-up a couple of guys, just like us.

I'd call this selective perception.

Call it what you'd like but the Argos are in a whole different situation within their market than any other team in the CFL.
The off season is a quiet time for sure but things like Drew Willy's contract restructuring etc seem to get "leaked" to the public with absolutely no comment from the team, nothing on the website etc.
Trust me not expecting daily updates in the offseason but a gentle nudge to the Toronto sports fan once in a while could be helpful.
Quite frankly most other teams in the CFL don't have to do much in the off season as they don't have as much competition in their markets for the sports $$.

[R.J]

Seems to be the new Argo way - everything is always delayed.

[Will]

Seems to be the new Argo way - everything is always delayed.

Most of the 5th estate in this city isn't paying attention anyways.

[R.J]

Most of the 5th estate in this city isn't paying attention anyways.
LOL, that's true, but it just seems like everything they do takes longer than it should. Eg. 2016 Season tickets, parking info, pre games festivities, 2016 Grey Cup, Copeland's review, 2017 season ticket info, etc.

[Neely2005]

Because coming off a successful season in 2016 there's not much that needs to be changed.
:-)

[doubleblue]

What have the Ticats done? redblacks? Stampeders? Riders?

As far as I know Toronto is the only team that hasn't confirmed their Coaches returning for the 2017 season. We know that Milanovich is signed for 2017 and 2018 but under the circumstances one would think this would be confirmed. I guess one could say that Hamilton hasn't confirmed that Kent Austin will be back, but then I haven't heard of Ticat fans calling for his head just yet either.
Jim Barker used to do some guest appearances on some Sports radio shows to give an update once in a while. I haven't heard of this happening even on TSN 1050. But if he has nobody has reported it. I expect this time of year Jim is hiding out down South checking out the Bowl Games and hopefully reviewing video tapes of possible 2nd round (10th pick) Canadian candidates for the up coming draft.

[Argo57]

Because coming off a successful season in 2016 there's not much that needs to be changed.
:-)

LOL
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

[R.J]

LOL
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
"never change a running system"

[doubleblue]

Argos are holding FA camps down south January 27, 28 and 29. So somebody is must be in charge. I wonder what the story is on WR Da'Rick Rogers who is still showing on the Argos suspension list. He was run out of the NFL for off field issues, so maybe they couldn't get him across the border.

[jerrym]

Could explain why they are routinely at the bottom of the league in attendance and merchandise sales, out of sight out of mind.

Leo Cahill was good at generating Argo media coverage by talking about who the Argos were after. George Steinbrenner of the New York Yankees would tell media he was pursuing players he wasn't really after just to keep the team's name in the news. Of course only works longterm if you sometimes sign players with known names.

[paulwoods13]

Leo Cahill was good at generating Argo media coverage by talking about who the Argos were after. George Steinbrenner of the New York Yankees would tell media he was pursuing players he wasn't really after just to keep the team's name in the news. Of course only works longterm if you sometimes sign players with known names.

When Leo was doing this, the Argos were frequently (Theismann, Barton, Corrigall, Stillwagon, Allen, Anderson) able to outbid the NFL for name players. Those days have been gone since 1980, with the single exception of Rocket Ismail. Leo was a great promoter and a great judge of talent, but the latter wouldn't lead to the former the way it used to, if he was resurrected in today's world.

[R.J]

When Leo was doing this, the Argos were frequently (Theismann, Barton, Corrigall, Stillwagon, Allen, Anderson) able to outbid the NFL for name players. Those days have been gone since 1980, with the single exception of Rocket Ismail. Leo was a great promoter and a great judge of talent, but the latter wouldn't lead to the former the way it used to, if he was resurrected in today's world.
Hence why Rex Ryan's name actually came up here.

[Jon Gonzo]

Should be the opposite. We need to lead in this category

[gilthethrill]

Where is Frank Z? I thought the Sun would have written something about Willy extending.

[Neely2005]

Where is Frank Z? I thought the Sun would have written something about Willy extending.

The Argonauts haven't officially announced it yet.

[gilthethrill]

[QUOTE=Neely2005;104236]The Argonauts haven't officially announced it yet.[/QUOTE

Then that tells me the team is going to make multiple announcements on the same day. Hopefully soon.

[Argo57]

The Argonauts haven't officially announced it yet.

Maybe due to embarrassment.

[R.J]

The Argonauts haven't officially announced it yet.

Then that tells me the team is going to make multiple announcements on the same day. Hopefully soon.
You mean like the announcement that Barker and Milo are sticking around, to go along with the Willy restructure/extension ?

[gilthethrill]

You mean like the announcement that Barker and Milo are sticking around, to go along with the Willy restructure/extension ?

Milanovich can perhaps introduce any new additions to the coaching staff.

[R.J]

Milanovich can perhaps introduce any new additions to the coaching staff.
The return of Jim Daley!

[gilthethrill]

The return of Jim Daley!

He could potentially return as ST co-ordinator. I don't forsee last year's guy returning.

[doubleblue]

You mean like the announcement that Barker and Milo are sticking around, to go along with the Willy restructure/extension ?

They should announce that Barker, Milanovich and Willy all have had their contracts restructured with a bonus clause for winning.

[Neely2005]

Maybe due to embarrassment.

LOL! The thought had crossed my mind.
:-)

[R.J]

They should announce that Barker, Milanovich and Willy all have had their contracts restructured with a bonus clause for winning.
LOL
That would save Bell and Tanebaum some money.

[Ron]

As far as I know Toronto is the only team that hasn't confirmed their Coaches returning for the 2017 season. We know that Milanovich is signed for 2017 and 2018 but under the circumstances one would think this would be confirmed. I guess one could say that Hamilton hasn't confirmed that Kent Austin will be back, but then I haven't heard of Ticat fans calling for his head just yet either.

Calgary, Saskatchewan, Edmonton and Ottawa also have not confirmed that their coaches will be back because there is no point to do so.

And to look outside the little bubble ... 10 guys on a fan site do not register as "fans calling for his head" in the land of ownership.

[R.J]

Calgary, Saskatchewan, Edmonton and Ottawa also have not confirmed that their coaches will be back because there is no point to do so.

And to look outside the little bubble ... 10 guys on a fan site do not register as "fans calling for his head" in the land of ownership.
Umm.....
http://www.ottawaredblacks.com/2016/12/23/redblacks-bring-entire-coaching-staff-back-for-2017/

[Ron]

Umm.....
http://www.ottawaredblacks.com/2016/12/23/redblacks-bring-entire-coaching-staff-back-for-2017/

I stand corrected. Didn't know their contracts were up therefore the need to announce their return after signing them all.

[doubleblue]

Calgary, Saskatchewan, Edmonton and Ottawa also have not confirmed that their coaches will be back because there is no point to do so.

And to look outside the little bubble ... 10 guys on a fan site do not register as "fans calling for his head" in the land of ownership.

Oh I don't know about that Ron. The political poll people will take a poll and say they are correct within +/- 3% using the opinion of 900 to 1,000 people Country wide. So using that "expert" logic, 10 Argo fans opinion should be what the majority think with in +/- 3%. So I think that kind of pans out on here. We all know who the "three" percenters not calling for heads are. :)

[paulwoods13]

Yeah, and pollsters get it right so often these days.

[doubleblue]

Yeah, and pollsters get it right so often these days.

That was on my mind but I didn't want to sound anti Hillary.;)

[Neely2005]

That was on my mind but I didn't want to sound anti Hillary.;)

Well Hillary actually got more votes than Trump. She just lost the Electoral College.

[1971GreyCup]

Well Hillary actually got more votes than Trump. She just lost the Electoral College.

In no way do I support Trumps winning the 2016 election, but:

- Just like the election, in Russia, the Russians made a great deal out of the fact that they outscored Team Canada in the 72 Summit. Too bad the terms of the series were that the team with the most wins won the series. Both Hillary and Trump campaigned on winning the most Electoral college votes. Hillary lost.

- Hillary won only 1% of the land mass in the USA

- if you exclude California, Trump won the popular vote by over 9 million.

[Neely2005]

In no way do I support Trumps winning the 2016 election, but:

- Just like the election, in Russia, the Russians made a great deal out of the fact that they outscored Team Canada in the 72 Summit. Too bad the terms of the series were that the team with the most wins won the series. Both Hillary and Trump campaigned on winning the most Electoral college votes. Hillary lost.

- Hillary won only 1% of the land mass in the USA

- if you exclude California, Trump won the popular vote by over 9 million.

Just pointing out that the pollsters were right. She got the most votes.

[ArgoGabe22]

Calgary just announced their entire staff is returning. Clearly, the Argos weren't the only ones not to announce anything as of January 9th.

[paulwoods13]

Just pointing out that the pollsters were right. She got the most votes.

Some, if not many, pollsters projected Clinton winning a majority of electoral college seats, not just the popular vote. Pollsters have also been wrong about Brexit and several recent elections in Canada.

[jerrym]

Calgary just announced their entire staff is returning. Clearly, the Argos weren't the only ones not to announce anything as of January 9th.

On the other hand, Calgary has made news has extended 9 potential free agents and released one player. Toronto has extended one player, ST Jake Reinhart, hardly a big newsmaker. After a 16-2 season and a Grey Cup appearance it would only be news if Calgary did not bring back its entire coaching staff.

http://www.cfl.ca/fa17/

[gilthethrill]

On the other hand, Calgary has made news has extended 9 potential free agents and released one player. Toronto has extended one player, ST Jake Reinhart, hardly a big newsmaker. After a 16-2 season and a Grey Cup appearance it would only be news if Calgary did not bring back its entire coaching staff.

http://www.cfl.ca/fa17/

Barker getting Shawn Lemon to extend is worth mentioning. Argos like to keep things close to their vest for the most part.

[Ron]

Some, if not many, pollsters projected Clinton winning a majority of electoral college seats, not just the popular vote. Pollsters have also been wrong about Brexit and several recent elections in Canada.

and the polls on this site about Milo being fired. ;-)

[jerrym]

Good to see the Argos start signing some players.

[Reggiemac]

When I was a rider season ticket holder tge atmoshere was very bleak after the grey cup. Everything died. The riders would be out signing players every couple of weeksbut come training camp they never made the team, just fodder to keep the riders front andcenter in Regina and when we sawthese signings we would do all the study we could before the internet so we wouldbuy magazines devoted to US college football and learn all we could about the signings. But it gave us diegard fans something to do in the off season. Now with youtube we can do a lot ofchecking ourselves when player signings are announced. And with the tryout camps we only see Bonafide candidates at the main camp. In the old days players would be signed and invited to camp now we bring them to try out camps and if they shine we sign them and they come to main camp. So now the players are screened before they are signed so a lot less signings compared to the old days. And now players are reporting to main camp in good shape cause they know what to expect. Camps are quite different now with most of the camp being devoted to installing offences and defenses and not simply physical stuff to get in shape. At this years main camp I expect that there will be few surprises cause we had lots of players on the P Rlast year that should be better this time around. So this years starting roster should have had at least two camps of experience, so anyone they find at a tryout camp will probably be something special. I hope its a RB who can and does break long ones.