Argo Draft Days Past an d Present

[jerrym]

Anthony Coombs recalls his 2014 draft day below. He thought the Argos would be the last team that might draft him.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Argos?src=hash">#Argos</a> traded up to nab <a href="https://twitter.com/acoombs1">@acoombs1</a> in the 2014 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFLDraft?src=hash">#CFLDraft</a>. <br><br>He reflects on his Draft Day and the process leading up to it. ⬇️ <a href="https://t.co/f1XmjWWT0m">pic.twitter.com/f1XmjWWT0m</a></p>&mdash; Toronto Argonauts (@TorontoArgos) <a href="https://twitter.com/TorontoArgos/status/860524092809728000">May 5, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jerrym]

Brian Jones recalls his 2016 Draft Day in the video below.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A year after being selected fourth overall by the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Argos?src=hash">#Argos</a>, Brian Jones reflects on his <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFLDraft?src=hash">#CFLDraft</a> Day. 🎥 <a href="https://t.co/vdUM8I4gMj">pic.twitter.com/vdUM8I4gMj</a></p>&mdash; Toronto Argonauts (@TorontoArgos) <a href="https://twitter.com/TorontoArgos/status/860992594515345410">May 6, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jerrym]

GM Jim Popp discusses today's draf below. His comments on draft day trades may be especially relevant in view of the Sun's reporting are looking at possible trading up.



“This is my 26th year in the league, so this is my 24th as a GM in the draft,” Popp said earlier this week. ...
From the outside, that process seems like a very difficult one to navigate. The CFL draft is unique, of course, in that teams are only selecting players that are eligible to play under the national status. In other sports, fans and scouts alike can look to the best of the college or amateur ranks, or around the world and make safe assumptions on who the top picks will be. The scope is more specific in the CFL, the prospects often not easily accessible on TV. Scouting needs to be invested in and active.
“I don’t know if I can compare it. I think all the drafts are different to be honest,” Popp said.
“We still start out, the NFL draft is open to everybody. When we start our draft, you’re sometimes between 800 and 1000 kids that you start out with and you narrow it down. (The CFL will) draft 71 of them this year.” ...

Trades can come out of nowhere, Popp said, but it’s about being prepared and making adjustments.
“I’ve been (in drafts) where the morning of the draft a trade occurs, or you get a call within 10 minutes of your first pick and it changes the course of things,” he said.
“It becomes chaotic, yes. That being said, we’ve already gone through our draft list, we’ve fine-tooth-combed it and we continue to do that all the way up to our pick.”
Both GMs and their staffs rank their top-71 players and adjust their lists as the draft progresses.
“You’ve got to be prepared and you’ve got to have a plan,” Popp said. “My theory is to always take the best player up to a certain point and then sometimes you’ll take by need, or a combination of that.”


http://www.argonauts.ca/2017/05/05/oleary-draft-preparation-different-cfl-team-says-gms/

[jerrym]

Here's a review of the Argo's 2013 draft.



Toronto Argonauts

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Round
Pick
Position
Player Name
College
Grade


1
8
OL
Matt Sewell
McMaster
2


2
17
DB
Jermaine Gabriel
Bishop’s
4


3
22
WR
Natey Adjei
Buffalo
2


6
52
OL
Michael Di Domenico
Tarleton State
0


7
60
LB
Paul Spencer
Concordia
0

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Sewell served as a reserve offensive lineman for the Argos for two seasons (2014-2015) after returning to McMaster for his final year of CIS eligibility in 2013. Traded to Saskatchewan prior to the 2016 season, Sewell announced his retirement after refusing to report to the green and white.
Gabriel has developed into a starting-caliber safety in Toronto, recording 135 tackles, five sacks, three forced fumbles, and one interception in 60 career games. His 34 career starts lead all defensive backs of the 2013 CFL draft class.
Adjei recorded eleven receptions and one touchdown over 35 games with Toronto during his two seasons with the club. The Buffalo product recorded six receptions and five special teams tackles this past year with Edmonton. He will be back with the Esks in 2017.
Both Di Domenico and Spencer were released by the Argos in June of 2013.


http://3downnation.com/2017/05/07/grading-analyzing-re-drafting-2013-cfl-draft/

[jerrym]

Below is a review of the 2011 Argo draft - one of the better ones for the Argos yielding starter Tyler Holmes, along with several backups.



Toronto Argonauts

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Round
Pick
Position
Player Name
College
Grade


1
7
OL
Tyler Holmes
Tulsa
5


3
18
WR
Djems Kouame
Montreal
1


3
22
DL
Alexander Robinson
Western
2


4
28
WR
Jedd Gardner
Guelph
1


5
35
DL
Gregory Alexandre
Montreal
0


5
38
WR
Julian Feoli-Gudino
Laval
0


6
43
OL
Michael Knill
Wilfred Laurier
0

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The Argonauts were forced to wait on Holmes for two seasons while he played out his senior season at Tulsa before spending the 2013 season with the Minnesota Vikings. Despite the wait, Holmes has developed into a dominant CFL left guard. Holmes is the best offensive lineman to come out of the 2011 draft and, as a pending free agent, is going to get a boatload of cash this February. Look for him to sign with his hometown RedBlacks.
Converting to fullback in his first training camp, Robinson has registered 18 receptions for 195 yards and 3 touchdowns to go along with 25 special teams tackles in his four seasons with the Argonauts. He won’t make headlines, but Robinson the type of solid national contributor every CFL teams needs.
Gardner (2011) and Kouame (2011-2012) spent one and two seasons with the Argonauts, respectively, though neither receiver registered a statistic.
Alexandre (2011) and Feoli-Gudino (2012-2013) were in and out of the line-up in their time with Toronto. Modest contributors with the club, Alexandre and Feoli-Gudino went on to have success with other CFL clubs in 2014. Alexandre had five sacks in Chris Jones’ defensive scheme with the Eskimos, while Feoli-Gudino made 24 receptions for 210 yards and 2 touchdowns in Winnipeg. Drafting two players who can contribute in the fifth round of the CFL draft is great – just not when the contributions are made while wearing enemy colors.
Knill, who smashed the CFL combine record with an unbelievable 47 bench press reps, was cut in the Argos’ 2011 training camp. He has not signed a CFL contract since.


http://3downnation.com/2014/12/14/re-draft-grading-analyzing-the-2011-cfl-draft/

[jerrym]

Saskatchewan Huskies draft prospect Evan Johnson discusses how he feels as draft time approaches.

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Evan Johnson with <a href="https://twitter.com/HuskieAthletics">@HuskieAthletics</a> speaking about <a href="https://twitter.com/CFL">@CFL</a> draft tonight <a href="https://twitter.com/JDunk12">@JDunk12</a> has him going 9th to <a href="https://twitter.com/REDBLACKS">@REDBLACKS</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/yxe?src=hash">#yxe</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/CKOMNews">@CKOMNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/njmLZbY5Ku">pic.twitter.com/njmLZbY5Ku</a></p>&mdash; JT Marshall (@jtmarshallCKOM) <a href="https://twitter.com/jtmarshallCKOM/status/861298001263771648">May 7, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jerrym]

Talk is that both Montreal and Toronto are discussing moving up in the draft by trading with the teams with two draft picks - BC and Winnipeg.

[gilthethrill]

So that's how you pronounce his last name.

[jerrym]

Bomber's Ekakitie could have been a good building block on the rebuilding Argos.

[jerrym]

Cameron Judge was the player I most hoped the Argos would take based on test numbers and his college play but I knew the odds of getting him were very slim. I suspect that Popp might not have drafted him anyway, given Popp's proclivities.

[jerrym]

Only one OL (#1 Faith Ekakitie) taken in the first five choices, meaning there is a good chance the Argos may have some top OL to pick from.

[jerrym]

After Lions take DL Junior Luke seventh, there is still only one OL taken, reflecting the depth at other positions, but leaving Popp with the possibility of going for his stereotypical OL more likely.

[jerrym]

Two top ten ranked OL, Geoff Gray and Evan Johnson, go to Bombers and Ottawa just before Argos pick, possibly changing their orientation on the tenth pick.

[jerrym]

Argos get the biggest OL in the draft, Mason Woods. I did not expect him to be available tenth. I'm happy.

[jerrym]

Marshall Ferguson's draft analysis of Mason Wood who he ranked fifth overall.




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MASON WOODS
OL | IDAHO


I’ve been tough in evaluating Mason Woods during and since the CFL combine in Regina. Woods has the frame to be a tackle but didn’t show the natural movement to own that chance quickly. When kicked inside to guard, where he spent much of his time at Idaho, Woods played tall and relied on his reach more than lower body fundamentals and it showed while being uprooted like the tallest tree in your yard during a vicious rain storm.
When Matt O’Donnell came out of Queen’s I would have likely said the same things. When Justin Sorenson became a centre many questioned having height like that inside. Edmonton seems like a natural fit for another tall, skilled offensive lineman in search of a home.
I wouldn’t be shocked to see Woods fall outside of the first round after his combine adventure but game tape is more important than anything else and Woods only needs one team to love his tape. I wonder if that team is Edmonton.


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http://www.cfl.ca/2017/04/03/mock-2-0-ankou-senior-jump-charts/

[dmont]

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Weird selection in the third round. Evan Foster, DL/LB. Marshall Ferguson had him as a 7th rounder. Yikes!

Evan Foster
DL | ManitobaThe 2017 CFL draft’s mighty mouse finds a fit on the same field he starred for the Manitoba Bisons with. Foster took defensive line and linebacker reps at the combine and could influence special teams quickly.
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[jerrym]

Argos take DL Evan Foster withe their third round draft choice. Marshall Ferguson ranked him 50th overall.



Evan Foster is a tornado. I have no clue what he could become as a positional player but he is a day one special teams starter and locker room hero.


http://www.cfl.ca/2017/04/03/mock-2-0-ankou-senior-jump-charts/

[OV Argo]

Ferguson was out to lunch with a lot of his draft thinking.

I had Foster rated as about the best DE this draft - under-sized a bit but super strong & athletic - D play-maker and CanWest all-star.

Him, Onyeka and Woodson are IMO 3 very good picks for the Argo D that has need of new talent.

[dmont]

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Hoping that we can snag Johnny Augustine in the 7th round. Some similarities to Coombs, who needs a backup now that Durie has retired.

[dmont]

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Hoping that we can snag Johnny Augustine in the 7th round. Some similarities to Coombs, who needs a backup now that Durie has retired.

Rats! Took a LB instead. Maybe Augustine in the 8th round.....?

[jerrym]

I'm disappointed the Argos didn't go for Justin Senior and/or Kwaku Boateng in the fourth and/or fifth round before they were taken in the fifth round by Edmonton. Although both are going to NFL camps the risk would have been worth it for a fourth/fifth round pick.

[dmont]

Rats! Took a LB instead. Maybe Augustine in the 8th round.....?

Nope. No Augustine. Maybe they sign him undrafted...... ? ;) ok enough of that.

I don't know much about these guys and I'm mostly going by Ferguson's analysis. I'm happy about Woods and Woodson. The others are all LB or LB/DL hybrid types. I don't know if they have much of a chance to play downs, but maybe they're thinking specials.

[jerrym]

Argos comment on their first draft choice, University of Idaho Mason Woods, #10 overall.



Woods, a 6-8, 324-pound native of Port Coquitlam, BC, played in 37 games, starting 34 consecutive, in four seasons at Idaho. He played an integral part on an offensive line that allowed the Vandals to become one of the Sun Belt Conference’s most productive units.
Woods was ranked eighth in the final CFL Scouting Bureau released on May 5 following his performance at the CFL Combine in March.
“Getting Mason at the size that he is, he is still going to mature into a fine football player,” said Argonauts General Manager Jim Popp. “He has played three years of major college football and has played against a lot of great talent which will make it an easier transition to come in as a pro athlete.”


http://www.argonauts.ca/2017/05/07/argos-select-mason-woods-10th-overall-pick-cfl-draft/

[doubleblue]

Who would have thought Justin Herdman would be drafted ahead of his brother Jordan. Funny draft picks by Popp IMO. If the Argos already didn't have to good Canadian talent these picks would be a disappointment as far as potential starters.

[jerrym]

Argos post on their third round pick, DL Evan Foster from the University of Manitoba:



Foster, a 6-1, 245-pound native of Chilliwack, British Columbia, played three seasons at the University of Manitoba after spending one season with the CJFL’s Langley Rams.
The three-time Canada West All-Star notched 121 tackles (72 solo, 49 assisted), 14 sacks, three fumble recoveries, one forced fumble and two pass breakups with the Bisons.



http://www.argonauts.ca/2017/05/07/argos-select-evan-foster-third-round-cfl-draft/

[jerrym]

Below is the Argo's post on 27th overall pick, University of Calgary's DB Robert Woodson.



Woodson, a 5-10, 191-pound defensive back, played four seasons at the University of Calgary where he registered 63 tackles (45 solo, 18 assisted), eight interceptions, two forced fumbles, two blocked kicks, and seven pass breakups with the Dinos.


http://www.argonauts.ca/2017/05/07/argos-add-robert-woodson-fourth-round-2017-cfl-draft/

[jerrym]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Congrats to <a href="https://twitter.com/Nakas_">@Nakas_</a> who goes in the 5th round, 36th overall to the <a href="https://twitter.com/TorontoArgos">@TorontoArgos</a>! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeAreHAWKS?src=hash">#WeAreHAWKS</a> 🏈🇨🇦 <a href="https://t.co/YEWIqS0qHB">pic.twitter.com/YEWIqS0qHB</a></p>&mdash; Laurier Golden Hawks (@WLUAthletics) <a href="https://twitter.com/WLUAthletics/status/861393472821104641">May 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[jerrym]

I guess the Argos will not find out how good Jordan Herdman is. They surprisingly drafted his twin brother Justin in front of Jordan who went to BC. Perhaps the fact that Jordan is going to a NFL camp played a role.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the 54th overall selection of the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFLDraft?src=hash">#CFLDraft</a> the <a href="https://twitter.com/TorontoArgos">@TorontoArgos</a> select <a href="https://twitter.com/JherdJustin">@JherdJustin</a>. <a href="https://t.co/yhLTUQRDjW">pic.twitter.com/yhLTUQRDjW</a></p>&mdash; SFU Football (@SFUFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SFUFootball/status/861401848653135872">May 8, 2017</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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[Jon Gonzo]

I think I was better at predicting the direction of one Jim Barker; Jim Popp did surprise in spots.

Let's face it, Mason Woods at 10th overall when some had him rated at #1,2 or 3 is a pick that looks like good value. Woods looks like a project however.

If Woods went later than expected, the 2nd pick went earlier than expected. Evan Foster was penned anywhere from the 2nd to 5th round in mock drafts.

And if Foster went early then they got Woodson in a good spot in the 4th Round. He was 1st/2nd Round material to most. However, some have said that Woodson and Foster are special teamers max.

As expected a couple of Linebackers in Onyeka and JUSTIN Herman and a couple of O.Lineman......

I would have come out with these selections (K. Okafor, C. Malumba, R. Woodson, J. Senior, JORDON Herdman, and J.Augustine) but these guys know better than me.

[jerrym]

Argos 8th round draft choice University of Calgary DL Matt Carson Combine test results.



Bench 16
40 5.36
Vertical (In.) 25.5
Broad 8'6.5"
3-Cone 7.47
Shuttle 4.51



http://www.cfl.ca/2017-cfl-western-regional-combine/

[Wobbler]

I'm curious to see what the Woods selection means. Before today we only had one NAT guy who projected as a tackle (Campbell), and I don't think anyone is expecting him to play on the left side. Do we think Woods could play LT? Have we little faith in Campbell to become a starter? Was the highly-projected Woods just too good to pass up at #10? I dunno, but I'm glad we have him.

I worry about the super-tall guys, though. It seems as though scouts sometimes fall in love with their height and are willing to overlook technique and quickness problems. Call it the Matt Sewell effect. I guess Matt O'Donnell has done OK...

[OV Argo]

Argos 8th round draft choice University of Calgary DL Matt Carson Combine test results.



http://www.cfl.ca/2017-cfl-western-regional-combine/


Up till this pick - the Argos had selected all proven starter or all-star type players.

Very ordinary to weak testing results for this guy, but he comes from a good Dinos program; meanwhile - former 1st team CIS all-star DT with super strong bench press # in Sam Narkaj goes totally undrafted ??? Wouldn't be the CFL draft without some surprise picks and also some seeming good prospects totally over-looked (Johnny Augustine as well).

[OV Argo]

I guess the Argos will not find out how good Jordan Herdman is. They surprisingly drafted his twin brother Justin in front of Jordan who went to BC. Perhaps the fact that Jordan is going to a NFL camp played a role.

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Justin sort of played in the shadow of his twin LB brother who smashed tackle records and was a 2 time Conference D player of the year (!); but he put up some very good D play making numbers as well; Jordan getting an NFL shot had to have some influence there - otherwise - pretty well zero sense for Justin to get picked earlier. It is the CFL draft though.<iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe"></iframe>

[Argo57]

Justin sort of played in the shadow of his twin LB brother who smashed tackle records and was a 2 time Conference D player of the year (!); but he put up some very good D play making numbers as well; Jordan getting an NFL shot had to have some influence there - otherwise - pretty well zero sense for Justin to get picked earlier. It is the CFL draft though.<iframe id="rufous-sandbox" scrolling="no" frameborder="0" allowtransparency="true" allowfullscreen="true" style="position: absolute; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: 0px; height: 0px; padding: 0px; border: none;" title="Twitter analytics iframe"></iframe>

Maybe Popp got the Herdman brothers mixed up?

[Shatto]

Popp and Trestman seem to like playing 5 Nationals on the O L, so it wouldn't be a surprise, if Woods and/or Campbell are in the long range plans for the future Left Tackle position. Woods has the size at 6' 8"" and 324 and the experience of playing successfully against top U.S. college competition. Campbell also has the size at 6' 7" and 300 and is extremely athletic as his 4.984, 40 time indicates. He also had the best Broad Jump and 3-cone results of any OL in this year's and last year's combines.

Perhaps the competition between the two of them will bring out their best.

[Wobbler]

Woods has the size at 6' 8"" and 324 and the experience of playing successfully against top U.S. college competition.
...almost entirely as a guard, I believe. That's where he played in his senior year, at least. I'm sure we'll try him at tackle, but it would be a pleasant surprise if he turns into a starter at LT. RT would be a good outcome, but maybe Woods will be best suited to be a giant guard like Matt O'Donnell.

I guess we'll see.

[jerrym]

Argo fourth round draft pick DB Robert Woodson, along with all other Canadian invites to the Giants mini-camp have not been signed by the Giants.



The New York Giants rookie mini-camp is over and the early indications are that none of the Canadian players in attendance will be offered a contract.
Regina offensive lineman Jeremy Zver, UBC receiver Alex Morrison, Calgary defensive end/linebacker Connor McGough and defensive back Robert Woodson, University of Montreal DL Junior Luke, Montreal Carabins kicker Felix Menard-Briere, linebackers Christophe Mulumba and Frederic Chagnon as well as Carleton receiver Nate Behar and defensive backs Tunde Adeleke and Nate Hamlin were all in attendance.


http://3downnation.com/2017/04/30/montreal-kicker-felix-menard-briere-accepts-invite-giants-mini-camp/

[jerrym]

Jim Popp talks about Argos first pick, Mason Wood in the video below.

http://www.cfl.ca/2017/05/08/argos-pleased-that-big-man-woods-fell-to-them/

[jerrym]

Here's the Argos' summary of all of their picks.



ROUND 2, PICK 10: Mason Woods (OL, Idaho)
Woods, a 6-8, 324-pound native of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia, played 37 games, starting in 34 consecutive, in four seasons at the University of Idaho. He helped the Vandals have one of the most productive offences in the Sun Belt Conference and finish in the top 20-percent of the FBS. He was ranked eighth in the final CFL Scouting Bureau released on May 5 following his performance at the CFL Combine in March.
ROUND 3, PICK 19: Evan Foster (DE, Manitoba)
Foster, a 6-1, 245-pound native of Chilliwack, British Columbia, played three seasons at the University of Manitoba after spending a season with the CJFL’s Langley Rams. The three-time Canada West All-Star notched 121 tackles (72 solo, 49 assisted), 14 sacks, three fumble recoveries, one forced fumble and two pass breaks up with the Bisons.
ROUND 4, PICK 27: Robert Woodson (DB, Calgary)
Woodson, a 5-10, 191-pound native of Calgary, Alberta, played four seasons at the University of Calgary where he registered 63 tackles (45 solo, 18 assisted), eight interceptions, two forced fumbles, two blocked kicks, and seven pass breakups with the Dinos. The two-time Canada West All-Star and USports All-Canadian was crowned the Canada West’s Defensive Player of the Year after recording a career-high and topping the conference with five interceptions in 2015.
ROUND 5, PICK 36: Nakas Onyeka (LB, Laurier)
Onyeka, a6-0, 210-pound, native of Brampton, Ontario led the OUA and ranked second in USports with 51 solo stops while notching 17 assisted tackles, 15 tackles for a loss, 5.5 sacks, one forced fumble, one fumble recovery and two pass breakup en route to being named a first-team OUA All-Star and USports All-Canadian in 2016. The 2016 OUA Defensive Player of the Year played an integral role in the Golden Hawks 2016 Yates Cup run.
ROUND 7, PICK 54: Justin Herdman (LB, SFU)
Herdman, a 6-1, 235-pound, native of Winnipeg, Manitoba, was selected in the seventh round (54th overall). He finished his collegiate career with 220 tackles (125 solo, 95 assisted), 33 tackles for a loss, six sacks, three quarterback hurries, two interceptions, five forced fumbles, six fumble recoveries, one of which was returned for a touchdown, and 12 pass breakups at Simon Fraser. The three-time GNAC Football All-Academic Team selection had 73 tackles (43 solo, 30 assisted), nine tackles for a loss, two fumble recoveries, one interception, one forced fumble, two fumble recoveries and three pass breakups as a senior with the Clan in 2016.
ROUND 8, PICK 63: Matthew Carson (DL, Calgary)
Carson, a 6-2, 262-pound native of Calgary, Alberta, played four seasons at the University of Calgary. In 30 games with the Dinos, he registered 29 tackles and two sacks.


http://www.argonauts.ca/2017/05/08/argos-2017-cfl-draft-recap/

[jerrym]

Below is a video interview with fourth round Argo pick DB Robert Woodson.

http://www.argonauts.ca/2017/05/05/prospect-profile-robert-woodson/