Ronnie Pfeffer returns!

[R.J]

http://3downnation.com/2017/06/11/canadian-kicker-ronnie-pfeffer-signs-argos-sources/

With Hajrullahu around, I don't think we really need him, but you never know I suppose, an injury could always occur.

[paulwoods13]

Our backup kickers didn't do great the other night, so this is useful insurance. It also makes things a little more squeezed for the Tiger-Cats who are not really happy with their two kickers and have already lost out on Brett Maher.

[Argo57]

http://3downnation.com/2017/06/11/canadian-kicker-ronnie-pfeffer-signs-argos-sources/

With Hajrullahu around, I don't think we really need him, but you never know I suppose, an injury could always occur.

Great forward thinking by Popp, protect yourself in case of injury and block Hamilton's attempt at solving their kicking woes.
Love it!!

[Wobbler]

Insurance is good. I don't buy Dunk's idea that we should dress them both - Hajrullahu is a better kicker and probably a better punter too.

[OV Argo]

Insurance is good. I don't buy Dunk's idea that we should dress them both - Hajrullahu is a better kicker and probably a better punter too.

Disagree; big-time.

I've gone on here before about how risky/iffy/dumb it is (IMO) to dress only one kicker for any game and have him do all 3 jobs; an injury during a game (especially early) and you can basically kiss that game good-bye (unless you have a huge lead). And besides, there are rarely CFL kickers who have outstanding seasons at handling both the punting & place-kicking jobs - though it has happened some (see S. Waters for the Argos a few seasons back) - more often the dual kicker will struggle, some or lots, at one of the jobs (see S. Waters in all his other Argo time). Let a kicker concentrate on what he does best, and have another kicker for the other job, and they back each other up, in case of injury or even in game struggles. There are ZERO NFL teams - going on decades now - who carry just one kicker and have him do all the jobs. CFL roster size now is (IMO) plenty (way too) big, so you don't need a 5th string DB or linebacker who plays just special teams over carrying a 2nd kicker.

Now, if you had another game roster guy, who plays another position, plus is a pretty decent dual kicker as well (see Dave Stala) then there is not the big risk of having ZERO kicker to play during a game if injury strikes your main kicker. Maybe Graves could be this back-up/emergency guy for the Argos - he does play slotback, plus was a QB and punter in college ball.

Pfeffer has good potential to become a solid punter or place kicker. Should never have let him go in the first place, IMO.

[Wobbler]

Unless Pfeffer can out-punt Hajrullahu I wouldn't dress him. Kickers not named Swayze Waters almost never get injured, and those reserve LBs/ST specialists are useful every game.

But Trestman might be thinking the way you do, OV. We put a surprising amount of effort into evaluating emergency kickers last week.

[R.J]

While I do think we should've kept Pfeffer around a couple of years ago when we had the unreliable and highly overrated Swayze Waters, I'm not overly keen on dressing two kickers unless both are being used throughout the game. IMO Hajrullahu is a much better all round kicker than Pfeffer is at this point, but I have zero issue keeping Pfeffer around as a backup/insurance policy.

[ArgoGabe22]

Greaves was horrible at kicking and punting on Thursday

[Neely2005]

Smart signing by Popp.

[Gill The Thrill]

Greaves was horrible at kicking and punting on Thursday

I love this move and was wondering where Ronnie Pfeffer was as I thought he filled in quite nicely a couple of years ago when Swayze Waters went down. I didn't know if he was still with Ottawa or was an FA coming into the off-season.

As far as Greaves, the former QB/kicker from Acadia and great athlete coming out of high school in Barrie, his kicking wasn't up to pro standard on Thursday to be fair, and I do love to pull for those Canadians as I grew up watching the CFL and view Canadian players as the lifeblood of the league in terms of building local fan relevancy and marketing. Greaves looked nervous and rushed all his kicks...if he's got the strength, that could be worked on in the practice roster, and with a good private kicking coach. He's also listed as a receiver and is a good athlete. Cole Watson, an American from North Carolina had a good game receiving but his kicking wasn't great either.

Pfeffer, a national out of WLU is a capable kicker who has shown upside during game action, so I love this move and felt the need to post without even reading the other posts. The kicking game is a third of the game in Canadian Football, so it's very important you have a capable backup in case of injury or in case a kicker gets a mental block and loses their effectiveness the way Boris Bede did last year in Montreal.

[Gill The Thrill]

Insurance is good. I don't buy Dunk's idea that we should dress them both - Hajrullahu is a better kicker and probably a better punter too.

Hajrullahu hasn't exactly been Mr. Consistent during his CFL career. He was where Boris Bede was last year a couple of years back in Winnipeg, so I don't think his superiority in kicking to Pfeffer is as cut and dry as you make it sound. For those who are old enough, having one kicker has cost the Argos playoff wins and that was with a guy who could punt a ball 70 yds. Accuracy in placekicking is important and Pfeffer had some long FGs that were good out of the 12 that he made 2 seasons ago.

Teams dressed 2 guys with the old 34 man rosters back in the day, so 2 kickers in a 46 man roster should not be a problem. Even Dave Ridgeway shared kicking duties with Ken Clark early in his career with Saskatchewan.

[gilthethrill]

Greaves was horrible at kicking and punting on Thursday

I was hoping Greaves would be the next Chris Hardy, but it does not look like it. Glad to see Ronnie return. He did a good job in relief a couple seasons back.

[Argo57]

Hajrullahu hasn't exactly been Mr. Consistent during his CFL career. He was where Boris Bede was last year a couple of years back in Winnipeg, so I don't think his superiority in kicking to Pfeffer is as cut and dry as you make it sound. For those who are old enough, having one kicker has cost the Argos playoff wins and that was with a guy who could punt a ball 70 yds. Accuracy in placekicking is important and Pfeffer had some long FGs that were good out of the 12 that he made 2 seasons ago.

Teams dressed 2 guys with the old 34 man rosters back in the day, so 2 kickers in a 46 man roster should not be a problem. Even Dave Ridgeway shared kicking duties with Ken Clark early in his career with Saskatchewan.

Look at how the previous regime addressed the kicking game in 2015 (including letting Pfeffer get away the first time), smart proactive move by Popp.

[gilthethrill]

Look at how the previous regime addressed the kicking game in 2015 (including letting Pfeffer get away the first time), smart proactive move by Popp.

Maybe in 2015 Ronnie decided he would rather go to Ottawa and play rather than be stuck on the reserve list watching Watters play?

[ArgoGabe22]

I don't think Pfeffer will last long. I'm thinking they don't want to tire LH and may be trolling the Ticats in the process. I don't expect RP to take up a roster spot for very long unless it's absolutely necessary (injury).

[paulwoods13]

If Pfeffer has no other options, he might very well accept a PR spot. Ticats seem more concerned about place-kicking than punting at this point.

[AngeloV]

I'm not overly excited about this move. He was good on FG's in a tough situation when called upon in 2015, but I said it then, and will repeat it now, he's a terrible punter.

[Antwon]

I thought Hajrullahu did very well last year. Bounce back year for him and one of the few bright spots!
An insurance kicker is always good.

[Argo57]

Maybe in 2015 Ronnie decided he would rather go to Ottawa and play rather than be stuck on the reserve list watching Watters play?

That's a possibility for sure.

[AngeloV]

I don't think Pfeffer will last long. I'm thinking they don't want to tire LH and may be trolling the Ticats in the process. I don't expect RP to take up a roster spot for very long unless it's absolutely necessary (injury).

According to Frank Z's article today, he had a tryout with the Cats before the Argos signed him. His tryout must not have gone well, considering how bad their kickers have reportedly been in camp.

[Neely2005]

According to Frank Z's article today, he had a tryout with the Cats before the Argos signed him. His tryout must not have gone well, considering how bad their kickers have reportedly been in camp.

I was under the impression that he chose Toronto over Hamilton.

[AngeloV]

I was under the impression that he chose Toronto over Hamilton.

I can't believe that. He would have had a legitimate chance to be the guy in Hamilton. Not in Toronto.

[Neely2005]

I can't believe that. He would have had a legitimate chance to be the guy in Hamilton. Not in Toronto.

"Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer has signed a two-year deal with the Toronto Argonauts, per sources.

Pfeffer worked out and had offers from both the Hamilton Tiger-Cats and Toronto."

http://3downnation.com/2017/06/11/canadian-kicker-ronnie-pfeffer-signs-argos-sources/

[AngeloV]

"Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer has signed a two-year deal with the Toronto Argonauts, per sources.

Pfeffer worked out and had offers from both the Hamilton Tiger-Cats and Toronto."

http://3downnation.com/2017/06/11/canadian-kicker-ronnie-pfeffer-signs-argos-sources/

Perhaps, but you'll never get a confirmation on that. The offer from Hamilton may have been the tryout offer, and not an actual contract offer. I just can't believe any player would woulld purposely choose to sign a contract where he has less of an opportunity of winning a starting position. Not everything on 3 down nation is iron clad fact.

[Neely2005]

Perhaps, but you'll never get a confirmation on that. The offer from Hamilton may have been the tryout offer, and not an actual contract offer. I just can't believe any player would woulld purposely choose to sign a contract where he has less of an opportunity of winning a starting position. Not everything on 3 down nation is iron clad fact.

Lol, well if you can't believe it then it must not be true.
:-)

Perhaps Toronto offered him a better contract than Hamilton did.

[jerrym]

I'm not a big Pfeffer fan, but having available as an emergency backup would be useful assuming we are not giving up a spot on the game roster.

[Neely2005]

"Meanwhile, Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer, who was signed this week, will get a chance to play in the second half of Friday’s game. He has a tough assignment trying to unseat the incumbent, Lirim Hajrullahu, and the team won’t carry two kickers during the regular season."

http://startouch.thestar.com/screens/b2110417-92c6-45c1-91fd-8efa683e63c5|_0.html

[doubleblue]

"Meanwhile, Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer, who was signed this week, will get a chance to play in the second half of Friday’s game. He has a tough assignment trying to unseat the incumbent, Lirim Hajrullahu, and the team won’t carry two kickers during the regular season."

http://startouch.thestar.com/screens/b2110417-92c6-45c1-91fd-8efa683e63c5|_0.html

I think I can call this one. Ron will stub his toe late in the game and be placed on the 1 game injured list.

[Gill The Thrill]

He had a rough one today. It looks like he hasn't really improved in the last 2 years, but then again he hasn't had consistent game action...it's the cart before the horse theory in his case. It's true he hasn't played enough in game situations, but he has to play well when he is given the shot and did not exactly do that today. You never know when you might need a kicker though. It's that precarious a position.

[Argo57]

He had a rough one today. It looks like he hasn't really improved in the last 2 years, but then again he hasn't had consistent game action...it's the cart before the horse theory in his case. It's true he hasn't played enough in game situations, but he has to play well when he is given the shot and did not exactly do that today. You never know when you might need a kicker though. It's that precarious a position.

He did an admirable job in 2015 but looked bad tonight, not sure they'll keep him around.

[ArgoGabe22]

I still think he's not a bad punter (I know Angelo, ok lol). I have only really seen him struggle with FGs lately.

[Will]

He was 0/2 on FG's tonight. One miss was from 38 and the other from 48. One attempt was into wind and the other was not. He technically outpunted Lirim, but Lirim still averaged 45 yards which is very good. #70's job is safe.

[paulwoods13]

LH's job was always safe. At this point I think the Argos won't waste a PR spot on Pfeffer (too many other guys who need to be kept around) but will keep him on speed dial in case of emergency.

[AngeloV]

I still think he's not a bad punter (I know Angelo, ok lol). I have only really seen him struggle with FGs lately.

He's been a terrible punter when asked to do it in actual meaningful games. Looks like he totally went in the other direction last night. Booming punts and shoddy FG kicking.

[Argo57]

He's been a terrible punter when asked to do it in actual meaningful games. Looks like he totally went in the other direction last night. Booming punts and shoddy FG kicking.

He was simply showcasing his versatility Angelo.

[R.J]

Pfeffer needs reps, the talent is there IMO, but with Hajrullahu around I doubt he gets any, and that's okay with me.

Good "problem" to have IMO.

[Argocister]

The Stamps have done quite well with both Paredes and Mavers ..... If LH and RP could do the same , I'm okay with that . ... At least special teams will always have a kicker if one of the two go down. ....stamps aren't too bad of a team to emulate.

[timlb01]

So Pfeffer is not cut. What is the plan here, are we going with a place kicker and punter come game day? Back to Ilesic and Chomyc days? I believe that is the last time we had a kicking duo.

[Will]

So Pfeffer is not cut. What is the plan here, are we going with a place kicker and punter come game day? Back to Ilesic and Chomyc days? I believe that is the last time we had a kicking duo.

They may stash Pfeffer on the 6-game.

[ArgoGabe22]

So Pfeffer is not cut. What is the plan here, are we going with a place kicker and punter come game day? Back to Ilesic and Chomyc days? I believe that is the last time we had a kicking duo.

Pfeffer isn't good enough to see the field yet. As an emergency backup, sure but not as a 1-2 combo with LH. LH shouldn't be touched. It's his job to handle all 3 IMO.

[paulwoods13]

So Pfeffer is not cut. What is the plan here, are we going with a place kicker and punter come game day? Back to Ilesic and Chomyc days? I believe that is the last time we had a kicking duo.

Prefontaine-Giancola. Medlock-Johnson for a game or two. And no doubt there have been others since the early '90s. But it won't happen this year IMO.

[R.J]

So Pfeffer is not cut. What is the plan here, are we going with a place kicker and punter come game day? Back to Ilesic and Chomyc days? I believe that is the last time we had a kicking duo.
Hidden on the IR would be my guess.

[OV Argo]

The Stamps have done quite well with both Paredes and Mavers ..... If LH and RP could do the same , I'm okay with that . ... At least special teams will always have a kicker if one of the two go down. ....stamps aren't too bad of a team to emulate.

Paredes & Maver give the Stamps the best all around kicking game in the league now, and their record the past few years in employing 2 kickers is pretty decent, is it not.

Meanwhile, Squinty Wally has to bring back grampa McCallum last season after his good punter showed he was not a good FG kicker as well; or Jimmy P had to totally bench/sit his dual kicker Bede and go with a new guy for both jobs as the Als put in another weak & losing season.

[paulwoods13]

Today in Toronto Star: The Argos, for now, will go with two kickers. Lirim Hajrullahu is the incumbent, but in Friday’s game, Ronnie Pfeffer showed off a booming punting leg.

Four days ago in Toronto Star: Meanwhile, Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer, who was signed this week, will get a chance to play in the second half of Friday’s game. He has a tough assignment trying to unseat the incumbent, Lirim Hajrullahu, and the team won’t carry two kickers during the regular season.

[Neely2005]

Today in Toronto Star: The Argos, for now, will go with two kickers. Lirim Hajrullahu is the incumbent, but in Friday’s game, Ronnie Pfeffer showed off a booming punting leg.

Four days ago in Toronto Star: Meanwhile, Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer, who was signed this week, will get a chance to play in the second half of Friday’s game. He has a tough assignment trying to unseat the incumbent, Lirim Hajrullahu, and the team won’t carry two kickers during the regular season.

Moral of the story, don't trust the Toronto Star.

[paulwoods13]

That's an overly simplistic interp, but to each his own.

[gilthethrill]

Moral of the story, don't trust the Toronto Star.

Coaches probably changed their way of thinking. They could change their plan again prior to Sunday and Ronnie may sit.

[ArgoGabe22]

Today in Toronto Star: The Argos, for now, will go with two kickers. Lirim Hajrullahu is the incumbent, but in Friday’s game, Ronnie Pfeffer showed off a booming punting leg.

Four days ago in Toronto Star: Meanwhile, Canadian kicker Ronnie Pfeffer, who was signed this week, will get a chance to play in the second half of Friday’s game. He has a tough assignment trying to unseat the incumbent, Lirim Hajrullahu, and the team won’t carry two kickers during the regular season.

Still doesn't say whether he is dressing/playing or if that just means they are keeping 2 kickers on the roster. I have a hard time believing that Pfeffer will dress.

[timlb01]

I believe he will dress and will play. It is very hard to find a good dual guy that is the best in both areas. That is why I questioned why they brought Ronnie on. We all know what Lirim did which was good but not good enough last year. It is a good compromise to improve our special team play.

[ArgoGabe22]

I believe he will dress and will play. It is very hard to find a good dual guy that is the best in both areas. That is why I questioned why they brought Ronnie on. We all know what Lirim did which was good but not good enough last year. It is a good compromise to improve our special team play.

Huh??? Not good enough? Argos need to work on coverage to improve special team play.

LH hit 37-of-42 field goal attempts to record a career-high 88.1 FG% while connecting on 32-of-34 one-point convert attempts…Punted 112 times for 4,913 yards (44.9 AVG) and two punt singles…Added 73 kickoffs for 4,657 yards (63.8 AVG) and one kickoff single…Named the Argonauts Most Outstanding Special Teams Player and Most Outstanding Canadian…Received his first nod as a Divisional All-Star… Tied Noel Prefontaine for the Argos third-longest consecutive field goals streak with 15 straight…Connected on 6-of-7 field goal attempts in Week 3 at BC to tie for second in Argos single-game history…

[paulwoods13]

Huh??? Not good enough? Argos need to work on coverage to improve special team play.

LH hit 37-of-42 field goal attempts to record a career-high 88.1 FG% while connecting on 32-of-34 one-point convert attempts…Punted 112 times for 4,913 yards (44.9 AVG) and two punt singles…Added 73 kickoffs for 4,657 yards (63.8 AVG) and one kickoff single…Named the Argonauts Most Outstanding Special Teams Player and Most Outstanding Canadian…Received his first nod as a Divisional All-Star… Tied Noel Prefontaine for the Argos third-longest consecutive field goals streak with 15 straight…Connected on 6-of-7 field goal attempts in Week 3 at BC to tie for second in Argos single-game history…

Have to agree here. It's virtually impossible to find someone who can perform at an all-star level in all three facets (including kickoffs) but Hajrillahu is excellent at all three. IMO Pfeffer should dress only if he is miles better than LH at one of the three facets.

[timlb01]

Have to agree here. It's virtually impossible to find someone who can perform at an all-star level in all three facets (including kickoffs) but Hajrillahu is excellent at all three. IMO Pfeffer should dress only if he is miles better than LH at one of the three facets.

Then why are they doing this and moving in this direction if Hajrillahu is so great. He wasn't so great in 2015 with Winnipeg although he was pretty solid last year for us. There is a reason they are not comfortable and I think the kicking game is always better when you go with 2 kickers. CFL rosters are small and therefore not many teams want to give a roster spot to another kicker but it appears there is a split in how teams in the league are viewing this now. We are not the only team that will have 2 kickers. Lets see if it lasts all season. Popp, Trestman and company did not do this because they like giving up a valuable roster spot for no reason. Maybe Pfeffer will be gone after a game or 2 but I don't think so.

[mchesher03]

Have to agree, I was not expecting much from LH given his performance in Winnipeg in 2015. I think he’s been good and a National to boot. Much as Swayze Waters did have a booming leg, he went through spells of being quite dicey on FG’s and was American (and got the injury bug as well). I’m fine with LH going forward.

Plus I’m pretty sure some of his family sit in front of me at BMO Field so I’ll stick to applauding his performances (like I do Declan Cross for the same reason) ;)

[paulwoods13]

Then why are they doing this and moving in this direction if Hajrillahu is so great. He wasn't so great in 2015 with Winnipeg although he was pretty solid last year for us. There is a reason they are not comfortable and I think the kicking game is always better when you go with 2 kickers. CFL rosters are small and therefore not many teams want to give a roster spot to another kicker but it appears there is a split in how teams in the league are viewing this now. We are not the only team that will have 2 kickers. Lets see if it lasts all season. Popp, Trestman and company did not do this because they like giving up a valuable roster spot for no reason. Maybe Pfeffer will be gone after a game or 2 but I don't think so.

Let's see if it will last all season? We don't even know if Pfeffer is going to dress on Sunday. The two reports have been contradictory, and neither said he will be on the active roster. Unless LH is hurt, I'll be very surprised if Pfeffer dresses this week. CFL rosters are not small, BTW -- 44 men dress. 34 was small.

[AngeloV]

I believe he will dress and will play. It is very hard to find a good dual guy that is the best in both areas. That is why I questioned why they brought Ronnie on. We all know what Lirim did which was good but not good enough last year. It is a good compromise to improve our special team play.

Unless LH has an injury we are not aware of, there is 0.0 chance Pfeffer will play on Sunday.

[gilthethrill]

Unless LH has an injury we are not aware of, there is 0.0 chance Pfeffer will play on Sunday.

Agreed. Which is why Kyle Graves most likely will be dressed in case of an emergency.

[ArgoGabe22]

Agreed. Which is why Kyle Graves most likely will be dressed in case of an emergency.

Does Graves start on specials? Might be a telling sign as well.

[paulwoods13]

Pretty sure the sole reason Graves is on the roster is to play special teams and serve as a backup kicker. He's the one receiver we have who will likely never catch any passes.

[1971GreyCup]

Have to agree, I was not expecting much from LH given his performance in Winnipeg in 2015. I think he’s been good and a National to boot. Much as Swayze Waters did have a booming leg, he went through spells of being quite dicey on FG’s and was American (and got the injury bug as well). I’m fine with LH going forward.

Plus I’m pretty sure some of his family sit in front of me at BMO Field so I’ll stick to applauding his performances (like I do Declan Cross for the same reason) ;)


You can't miss the Hajrillahu family, they usually wear Argos #70 jerseys. Lirim was born in Kosovo and emigrated early to Canada during the conflict in Kosovo that followed the Civil War in Bosnia.

Lirim has a great, & supportive family. If you really want to endear yourselves with them, practice a few Serbs-Croat phrases and you'll have friends for life!

[ArgoGabe22]

Pretty sure the sole reason Graves is on the roster is to play special teams and serve as a backup kicker. He's the one receiver we have who will likely never catch any passes.

Not sure about that. From what I saw in practice, he can catch and is a pretty big target. Now, I don't know if will ever see a down on offence with the plethora of receivers but he is certainly more than capable. But you're right, he may be more valued on specials.

[paulwoods13]

I didn't mean to suggest he's no good. But he's likely ranked behind Coombs, Jones, Noel, Ralph and Williams among the NAT receivers, and if we usually have only one or two NAT receivers on the field at a time, chances are he won't be one of them. And of course there are also the two FBs seeing some PT on offence.

[ArgoRavi]

Then why are they doing this and moving in this direction if Hajrillahu is so great. He wasn't so great in 2015 with Winnipeg although he was pretty solid last year for us. There is a reason they are not comfortable and I think the kicking game is always better when you go with 2 kickers. CFL rosters are small and therefore not many teams want to give a roster spot to another kicker but it appears there is a split in how teams in the league are viewing this now. We are not the only team that will have 2 kickers. Lets see if it lasts all season. Popp, Trestman and company did not do this because they like giving up a valuable roster spot for no reason. Maybe Pfeffer will be gone after a game or 2 but I don't think so.

Trestman and Popp have never gone with two kickers before so I doubt that they will now. During Popp's time in Montreal, he had Terry Baker, Matt Kellett, Damon Duval, Sean Whyte and Boris Bede and they each did all of the kicking.

[argolio]

Unless LH has an injury we are not aware of, there is 0.0 chance Pfeffer will play on Sunday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V3CfD8TPac

[OV Argo]

Have to agree here. It's virtually impossible to find someone who can perform at an all-star level in all three facets (including kickoffs) but Hajrillahu is excellent at all three. IMO Pfeffer should dress only if he is miles better than LH at one of the three facets.


Pretty well excellent at all 3 last season = ONE CFL season; we shall see; the Bombers didn't get rid of this guy because he was a superstar all-around kicker - OR maybe they made a huge mistake; like they did last season in letting Medlock - a mediocre punter - hold that job all season.

[timlb01]

Let's see if it will last all season? We don't even know if Pfeffer is going to dress on Sunday. The two reports have been contradictory, and neither said he will be on the active roster. Unless LH is hurt, I'll be very surprised if Pfeffer dresses this week. CFL rosters are not small, BTW -- 44 men dress. 34 was small.

20% smaller than an NFL roster.

[paulwoods13]

20% smaller than an NFL roster.

NFL dresses.46 men per team.

[gilthethrill]

NFL dresses.46 men per team.

I thought it was 53 in the NFL?

[argolio]

I thought it was 53 in the NFL?7 inactive.

[mchesher03]

You can't miss the Hajrillahu family, they usually wear Argos #70 jerseys. Lirim was born in Kosovo and emigrated early to Canada during the conflict in Kosovo that followed the Civil War in Bosnia.

Lirim has a great, & supportive family. If you really want to endear yourselves with them, practice a few Serbs-Croat phrases and you'll have friends for life!

Oh if they’re in front of me this year then good for them. I’ll have less to yell about with a winning team, whether Milonovich heard my “feedback” or not last year hah. should be all good!

[1971GreyCup]

Oh if they’re in front of me this year then good for them. I’ll have less to yell about with a winning team, whether Milonovich heard my “feedback” or not last year hah. should be all good!



Phrases, I remember from from Yugoslavia

Kaki Si? - How are you?
Dobra - Great!
Dobra Dan - Great Day!
Molim - Thanks!

Of course, they speak perfect English and very nice to boot!

[REAL]

Have to agree, I was not expecting much from LH given his performance in Winnipeg in 2015. I think he’s been good and a National to boot.Much as Swayze Waters did have a booming leg, he went through spells of being quite dicey on FG’s and was American (and got the injury bug as well).I’m fine with LH going forward.

Plus I’m pretty sure some of his family sit in front of me at BMO Field so I’ll stick to applauding his performances (like I do Declan Cross for the same reason) ;)


no need