Argos sign Linden Gaydosh [Archive]

ArgoGabe22

08-07-2017, 10:12 AM

Neely2005

08-07-2017, 11:16 AM

Low risk, potential high reward move.

paulwoods13

08-07-2017, 12:39 PM

I disagree with Hogie's description of our d-line as deep. We have lots of tackles (if only they could all stay healthy) but just three INT ends. Walker and/or Foster might eventually develop into regulars but I don't think either is ready to play a lot of snaps at DE yet. I would really like us to bring in another DE, and have been saying that since week 1.

doubleblue

08-07-2017, 12:47 PM

I disagree with Hogie's description of our d-line as deep. We have lots of tackles (if only they could all stay healthy) but just three INT ends. Walker and/or Foster might eventually develop into regulars but I don't think either is ready to play a lot of snaps at DE yet. I would really like us to bring in another DE, and have been saying that since week 1.

Eric Martin played fairly well late last year. They didn't cut him and he didn't retire apparently as he is on the suspended list. Maybe he will be back a some time if he has a non football injury or some other issue.

argonaut11xx

08-07-2017, 01:22 PM

Gaydosh is a BIG boy, thinking out of the box maybe make him a project, and pull a "Chris Shultz", switch his position from Def and train him as an O-lineman?

argolio

08-07-2017, 05:01 PM

Gaydosh is a BIG boy, thinking out of the box maybe make him a project, and pull a "Chris Shultz", switch his position from Def and train him as an O-lineman?Interesting thought, and not that out of the box. Worked for Van Zeyl and Federkeil, who were both all-star DTs in CIS ball.

OV Argo

08-07-2017, 05:20 PM

Eric Martin played fairly well late last year. They didn't cut him and he didn't retire apparently as he is on the suspended list. Maybe he will be back a some time if he has a non football injury or some other issue.

Have you seen late round draft pick DE Kwaku Boateng play for the Esks this year? - playing more reps every game it seems - on the field almost as much as vet import starters Willis & Howard lately, and Boateng is looking quite strong - fast & explosive with a couple of sacks already. The Argos could have drafted him several times over, but chose to pass; but they did use a much higher pick than where Boateng went to take DE Evan Foster - who i guess just hasn't panned out for any playing time (inspite of a strong ex. game performance); funny how some young guys work out when they are given a shot at playing time. Another later round draft pick - DT Justin Vaughn - is playing some on the Ticats D-line rotation.

Wobbler

08-07-2017, 05:21 PM

In an interview earlier this year Chris Jones mentioned that Gaydosh might be "serviceable" on the OL (http://3downnation.com/2017/06/03/riders-linden-gaydosh-forced-battle-back-yet/). That's not a strong endorsement, but it's at least a possibility.

OV Argo

08-07-2017, 05:24 PM

In an interview earlier this year Chris Jones mentioned that Gaydosh might be "serviceable" on the OL (http://3downnation.com/2017/06/03/riders-linden-gaydosh-forced-battle-back-yet/). That's not a strong endorsement, but it's at least a possibility.

I'd like to see Bishop be given a shot at OG when/if he comes back from injury; not really near athletic enough to play D-line in the CFL, but he is 300 pound range and has played in the NFL before where he might have learned some good guard play ?

gilthethrill

08-07-2017, 05:33 PM

I'd like to see Bishop be given a shot at OG when/if he comes back from injury; not really near athletic enough to play D-line in the CFL, but he is 300 pound range and has played in the NFL before where he might have learned some good guard play ?

Bishop was playing quite well as a DT before his injury. As for the Gaydosh signing, why not leave hime at DT? Unfortunately Waud is not able to remain healthy.

argolio

08-07-2017, 05:33 PM

I'd like to see Bishop be given a shot at OG when/if he comes back from injury; not really near athletic enough to play D-line in the CFL, but he is 300 pound range and has played in the NFL before where he might have learned some good guard play ?Sarcasm aside, no way I'd position-switch an established starter from DL to OL in the middle of a season.

R.J

08-07-2017, 05:44 PM

Gaydosh was a very good player during his University days. Injuries have done him in, but if he can ever stay healthy, I think he needs to stick with DL - could be a force (again if healthy).

AngeloV

08-07-2017, 07:13 PM

Have you seen late round draft pick DE Kwaku Boateng play for the Esks this year? - playing more reps every game it seems - on the field almost as much as vet import starters Willis & Howard lately, and Boateng is looking quite strong - fast & explosive with a couple of sacks already. The Argos could have drafted him several times over, but chose to pass; but they did use a much higher pick than where Boateng went to take DE Evan Foster - who i guess just hasn't panned out for any playing time (inspite of a strong ex. game performance); funny how some young guys work out when they are given a shot at playing time. Another later round draft pick - DT Justin Vaughn - is playing some on the Ticats D-line rotation.

So I guess that means EVERY team passed on him several times over.

doubleblue

08-07-2017, 08:46 PM

Have you seen late round draft pick DE Kwaku Boateng play for the Esks this year? - playing more reps every game it seems - on the field almost as much as vet import starters Willis & Howard lately, and Boateng is looking quite strong - fast & explosive with a couple of sacks already. The Argos could have drafted him several times over, but chose to pass; but they did use a much higher pick than where Boateng went to take DE Evan Foster - who i guess just hasn't panned out for any playing time (inspite of a strong ex. game performance); funny how some young guys work out when they are given a shot at playing time. Another later round draft pick - DT Justin Vaughn - is playing some on the Ticats D-line rotation.

I'm with you on that one. I can't see Foster, who is really a short 5'11 225 instead of his listed 6'1 245, ever being a force at DE. Maybe they can eventually make a back up MLB out of him and hope he is a special teams star. Boateng is turning out to be what I thought he would be on what I saw of him on the field. However we don't see off field issues that the teams do. Not saying Boateng had any but something seems to have had teams passing on him.

OV Argo

08-07-2017, 09:36 PM

So I guess that means EVERY team passed on him several times over.

YES - including Ottawa - who drafted a back-up fullback and a long-snapper instead - and who could really use some help at DE

OV Argo

08-07-2017, 09:43 PM

I'm with you on that one. I can't see Foster, who is really a short 5'11 225 instead of his listed 6'1 245, ever being a force at DE. Maybe they can eventually make a back up MLB out of him and hope he is a special teams star. Boateng is turning out to be what I thought he would be on what I saw of him on the field. However we don't see off field issues that the teams do. Not saying Boateng had any but something seems to have had teams passing on him.

I doubt Foster is 5-11; but whatever (Boateng is listed at 6-0 BTW) - Foster is super athletic/strong and was a real play-maker at DE in college ball. Don't see why he could not be given some reps at DE to see what he can do - especially with Butler out. He did make some impact in playing time in an exhibition game.

CFL teams yearly/routinely pass on proven, all-star, top notch position players in the draft to instead take special teamers/guys seen as back-ups only or "projects" = dumb /laughable - just IMO of course.

paulwoods13

08-08-2017, 08:52 AM

I doubt Foster is 5-11; but whatever (Boateng is listed at 6-0 BTW) - Foster is super athletic/strong and was a real play-maker at DE in college ball. Don't see why he could not be given some reps at DE to see what he can do - especially with Butler out. He did make some impact in playing time in an exhibition game.

Foster's preseason play was almost certainly against guys who eventually got cut. Did he ever face guys in college as big and strong and athletic as most CFL OTs are? I suspect not. He might well develop into a player, but IMO he would probably be overmatched at DE at this point in his career.

OV Argo

08-08-2017, 02:21 PM

Foster's preseason play was almost certainly against guys who eventually got cut. Did he ever face guys in college as big and strong and athletic as most CFL OTs are? I suspect not. He might well develop into a player, but IMO he would probably be overmatched at DE at this point in his career.

You're entitled to your opinion there of course and can base it on whatever predictable stuff.

Have you seen Boateng play DE for the Esks this season? Has he been over-matched playing against pro O-linemen? Maybe the Esks coaching staff missed the memo about ALL Canadian players needing years to "develop" before they should get any CFL playing time opportunity? You should let them in on this info.

paulwoods13

08-08-2017, 02:35 PM

Boateng has played six games in his career and looked pretty good. Good for him. It doesn't translate to how other guys would perform in similar or different circumstances.

Predictability about the basis of opinions is in the eye of the beholder.

PullTogether73

08-08-2017, 02:55 PM

You're entitled to your opinion there of course and can base it on whatever predictable stuff.

Have you seen Boateng play DE for the Esks this season? Has he been over-matched playing against pro O-linemen? Maybe the Esks coaching staff missed the memo about ALL Canadian players needing years to "develop" before they should get any CFL playing time opportunity? You should let them in on this info.

Are you SURE he is entitled to his opinion?
Your usual mocking tone indicates he is not.

FFS, some things never change on this forum.
I wonder why I have tried to participate again.
:(

AngeloV

08-08-2017, 03:34 PM

Are you SURE he is entitled to his opinion?
Your usual mocking tone indicates he is not.

FFS, some things never change on this forum.
I wonder why I have tried to participate again.
:(

Well, I for one am glad to see you back. We need more GOB thinkers to combat some on here.

:D

PullTogether73

08-08-2017, 03:56 PM

Well, I for one am glad to see you back. We need more GOB thinkers to combat some on here.

:D

Spoken like a true non-import Angelo!!
:hi:

doubleblue

08-08-2017, 07:42 PM

In an interview earlier this year Chris Jones mentioned that Gaydosh might be "serviceable" on the OL (http://3downnation.com/2017/06/03/riders-linden-gaydosh-forced-battle-back-yet/). That's not a strong endorsement, but it's at least a possibility.

Getting back to Gaydosh. A move to the OLine might be just what he needs to get his career going. Plunk him in at OG and work on his pass blocking. I don't believe too many DLinemen in the League could bull rush him. He would have to get on board with such a move and maybe was why Jones let him go. He may think without question he's a DT.

Will

08-10-2017, 09:01 AM

Why is it that so many promising Canadian players that the Argos acquire (Waud, Gabriel, Greenwood, etc.) are always injury prone?

ArgoGabe22

08-10-2017, 09:16 AM

Why is it that so many promising Canadian players that the Argos acquire (Waud, Gabriel, Greenwood, etc.) are always injury prone?

Good question. Less football experience, less knowledge on how to care for their bodies? I'm not actually too serious but CIS players do have less experience than an NCAA vet who bounced around the NFL.

OV Argo

08-10-2017, 10:15 AM

Good question. Less football experience, less knowledge on how to care for their bodies? I'm not actually too serious but CIS players do have less experience than an NCAA vet who bounced around the NFL.

D-linemen Butler & Bishop - formerly of the super-hero laden NFL - are currently out with injury from the Argo line-up.

argolio

08-10-2017, 05:17 PM

Good question. Less football experience, less knowledge on how to care for their bodies? I'm not actually too serious but CIS players do have less experience than an NCAA vet who bounced around the NFL.I can't see there being a difference based on nationality. Maybe it's just more noticeable because of how valuable Canadian starters are, and how they're usually harder to replace with our smaller talent pool.

Wobbler

08-10-2017, 07:38 PM

In addition to Waud, until recently we had the perpetually injured Tracey Robertson. I was wondering if DTs were especially injury prone - maybe because they need to be both huge AND athletic - but this analysis (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2015/nfl-injuries-part-iv-variation-position) doesn't back that up.

OV Argo

08-11-2017, 09:12 PM

Seen Gaydosh a couple of times, but didn;t notice much ; more of him please, the Argo D-front gets blown out too much to allow a good back like Sutton room to move; Woods making some stops, but well down the field; a big body DT like Gaydosh could maybe help some there.

paulwoods13

08-11-2017, 10:44 PM

Gaydosh played a few snaps but didn't seem to do anything to warrant playing more than Finlay or Wynn. The latter had his best game by far. This is the first game since Bishop went out that I felt our interior d-line was strong.

Wobbler

08-11-2017, 10:59 PM

Wynn did look good.

OV Argo

08-11-2017, 11:01 PM

Wynn did look good.

Wynn did look strong indeed; Finley had some push too - lost a sack on a penalty; I actually saw Gaydosh get some push on one play.

KCargosfan

08-17-2017, 04:40 PM

Are you SURE he is entitled to his opinion?
Your usual mocking tone indicates he is not.

FFS, some things never change on this forum.
I wonder why I have tried to participate again.
:(

Ditto

jerrym

08-17-2017, 10:00 PM

Are you SURE he is entitled to his opinion?
Your usual mocking tone indicates he is not.

FFS, some things never change on this forum.
I wonder why I have tried to participate again.
:(

When it comes to mocking, believe me there are a lot worse forums than this one, both on sports and other topics.