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R.J
11-30-2017, 02:21 PM
https://www.tsn.ca/lions-name-hervey-as-gm-buono-to-coach-1.930658

I'm a bit surprised. Wally is Ed's Boss, but Ed is also Wally's "Boss", I recall this situation occurring in Saskatchewan with Ken Miller and Taman - what could go wrong ?

2018 will be Wally's Final Season.

R.J
11-30-2017, 02:53 PM
I think McGreen over on Riderfans pretty much nailed it here.
http://www.riderfans.com/forum/forum/main-forum/194680-bc-lions-to-make-major-football-operations-announcement-at-11am-pt-today?p=194921#post194921

Wally wants to coach and no longer believes one man can do both HC and GM jobs effectively. 2018 will be his final year with the Lions. It appears that Braley wanted Wally to retain the VP job because he is not comfortable with anyone else at this point. Braley is the one who is making the transition tough and Wally is trying to make chicken salad...

doubleblue
11-30-2017, 02:57 PM
Well that's different. I would have thought that they would maybe bring Ed in as an assistant GM for 2018. Let Ed do all the GM duties but with Wally still keeping his finger in everything.

R.J
11-30-2017, 03:04 PM
Well that's different. I would have thought that they would maybe bring Ed in as an assistant GM for 2018. Let Ed do all the GM duties but with Wally still keeping his finger in everything.
Wally brought up during the press conference that the plan was for Hervey to come in as Asst. GM a few years ago, but Edmonton naming him GM screwed it all up.

Antwon
12-01-2017, 12:31 PM
I actually don't think it's a bad move.
Wally is right I think GM/Coach is too much for one person in todays league. And at his age probably wanted nothing to do with it anymore.
Hervey knows how to find players. And by the sounds of it fell on his sword sticking up for Maas(who with each year come across as more of an a$$)


The bigger problem is Braley and his cheap operating budget.
I bet this time next year Wally retires as coach and Braley still owns the team with no deal in sight.

OV Argo
12-01-2017, 04:26 PM
WOW ! - just shocking news - the CFL GOBs recycle again - who knew ? ;o)

Mr. Ed - the talking jack-@$$ - gets another CFL chance; such a proven football mind.

Feel sorry for them out on the Left Coast - with cheap-o/clown act Braley still owning the team and now another clown added to the circus. NO CFL teams deserve this IMO - the Als being saddled with Mavis & the Wet-and-alls is bad enough.

AngeloV
12-01-2017, 09:48 PM
WOW ! - just shocking news - the CFL GOBs recycle again - who knew ? ;o)

Mr. Ed - the talking jack-@$$ - gets another CFL chance; such a proven football mind.

Feel sorry for them out on the Left Coast - with cheap-o/clown act Braley still owning the team and now another clown added to the circus. NO CFL teams deserve this IMO - the Als being saddled with Mavis & the Wet-and-alls is bad enough.

You'd save a whole lot of time and typing if you just listed the 1 GM in the league that you like.

ArgoGabe22
12-01-2017, 10:04 PM
WOW ! - just shocking news - the CFL GOBs recycle again - who knew ? ;o)

Mr. Ed - the talking jack-@$$ - gets another CFL chance; such a proven football mind.

Feel sorry for them out on the Left Coast - with cheap-o/clown act Braley still owning the team and now another clown added to the circus. NO CFL teams deserve this IMO - the Als being saddled with Mavis & the Wet-and-alls is bad enough.

Didn't Hervey turn around the Eskimos in a short time frame?

ArgoRavi
12-02-2017, 01:17 AM
Didn't Hervey turn around the Eskimos in a short time frame?

Like him or not, Hervey's record as a GM is not too shabby. IIRC, he inherited Kavis Reed in this first year when they went 4-14 but things improved considerably after that.

jerrym
12-02-2017, 09:39 AM
Lots of questions being generated by this leadership combination.



Hervey’s appointment, in fact, seemed to raise as many questions as it answered and given everything the Lions endured in 2017, that isn’t the best situation for this franchise. But both Hervey and Buono believe they can make this arrangement work because they’re both committed to the same goal.
Everything else, you ask? Details, bothersome details; not really worth discussing even if they are to everyone else.
“It’s going to work because, one, Ed and I want it to work and, two, Ed’s not an ego guy,” Buono said. “I’m not trying to build a career here. All I’m trying to do is assemble a good football team with Ed.”
And maybe it’s that simple. It’s just that recent history has taught us it’s anything but.
The Lions, who were under enormous pressure to signal a new direction for their beleaguered franchise, charted that new course on Thursday with Hervey as the new GM. Never mind that this was the only significant change announced on Thursday and many more questions remain to be answered about the Lions. But Buono believes the reset in the football department had to start with a new GM and he left little doubt that Hervey, the former Eskimos GM, was his man.
Hervey, as it happens, brings credentials to the job. In four years with the Eskimos, he delivered one Grey Cup, made a franchise-changing trade with, ahem, Buono for quarterback Mike Reilly and amassed a cumulative 40-32 record.
He also had a reputation for being difficult to work with and formed combative relationships with, among others, former Esks GM Eric Tillman, former head coaches Kavis Reed and Chris Jones and former CFL commissioner Jeffrey Orridge. He now comes to the Lions, who are still very much a Buono construct, after spending 18 years with the Esks as a player, ambassador, scout and executive.


http://vancouversun.com/sports/football/willes-questions-remain-for-the-b-c-lions-but-hervey-is-the-answer-for-now/wcm/642f829b-3312-4054-a5a7-197744e06302

OV Argo
12-02-2017, 11:52 AM
You'd save a whole lot of time and typing if you just listed the 1 GM in the league that you like.


LOL - and you would be hard pressed to name just one veteran football mind - long-time successful coach, personnel guy or executive - who was not on the CFL GOB recycled list. Hey, you love CFL GOBs and same old/same old in the league = good for you pal.

argolio
12-02-2017, 03:22 PM
Everyone sucks, but yet you still watch. Amazing.

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