Toronto's BMO Field undergoes transformation into a hybrid playing surface

[Neely2005]

Toronto's BMO Field undergoes transformation into a hybrid playing surface:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/torontos-bmo-field-undergoes-transformation-into-a-hybrid-playing-surface/ar-BBVR0ev?ocid=st

[doubleblue]

Toronto's BMO Field undergoes transformation into a hybrid playing surface:

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/torontos-bmo-field-undergoes-transformation-into-a-hybrid-playing-surface/ar-BBVR0ev?ocid=st

I thought maybe this was something about the end zone problem. But it sounds like an improvement for the playing surface.

[ArgoZ]

The endzones will get a Fieldturf redo to better match the grass. Not perfect, but will be much better than the rug that was there.

[jojoheath]

Has this happened yet? The fieldturf endzones that is.

[Foxhound]

The bottom line for me is the size of the endzones. They need to be made to conform to the CFL twenty yard standard.

[CFLfan]

The bottom line for me is the size of the endzones. They need to be made to conform to the CFL twenty yard standard.

Get over it, been discussed to death.
It’s impossible, to get 20 yards

[Neely2005]

Get over it, been discussed to death.
It’s impossible, to get 20 yards

They actually had 20 yard endzones as a test for the first exhibition Argonauts game at BMO Field. The issue was that they didn't leave any buffer after the endzone.

[Ron]

The bottom line for me is the size of the endzones. They need to be made to conform to the CFL twenty yard standard.

Since BMO hasn't had CFL ball for long ... how about you get the end zones changed in Edmonton before you take on Toronto. Go for the older violation first.

[jojoheath]

edmontons end zones have been fixed for a few years now

[bannedforlife]

Rectangular end zones on Edmonton Eskimos’ home turf safer for receivers, defensive backs (http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Rectangular+zones+Edmonton+Eskimos+home+turf+safer +receivers+defensive+backs/9900967/story.html)
CFLPA asked for Commonwealth Stadium field to be modified after Eskimos star Fred Stamps was hurt last year
Norm Cowley, Edmonton Journal June 2, 2014

EDMONTON - The changes to the end zones at Commonwealth Stadium look cosmetic, but were instigated by concern over player safety.

After star receiver Fred Stamps suffered a season-ending hip injury when he fell awkwardly on the concrete track that skirts the field while trying to catch a touchdown pass deep in the end zone in October, the Canadian Football League Players’ Association approached the Edmonton Eskimos.

“They asked if we could do something to modify the field to mitigate the concerns they had with the lack of the corners,” Eskimos president and CEO Len Rhodes said Monday on Day 2 of the CFL team’s training camp at Commonwealth Stadium. “As most people know, those corners haven’t changed since 1978.”

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Rhodes approached the City of Edmonton, which owns the facility, and city council provided almost $400,000 worth of funding to make the end zones rectangular, instead of rounded on the corners, with another six feet of FieldTurf outside the boundary lines. The worn-out track was also resurfaced with a new paint colour.

“It’s a significant difference versus what we had up to last year,” Rhodes said. “For the players who are accustomed to having square end zones, they know what to expect, and we feel that’s really going to make a difference for them.

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“Functionally, which is the most important one, it’s much more safe for the players.”

Stamps, who led the CFL with 1,259 receiving yards despite missing three games, has skidded on the track several times over the years because he’s always running the deep corner routes, but last season marked only the second time that he fell.

“I fell on the track over there (in the northeast corner) in 2012,” he said. “One of the signs caught my fall.

“I’m glad to see they added more turf. It gives me more room to catch the ball.”

Shamawd Chambers, a third-year receiver out of Wilfrid Laurier University, hurt himself in his first practice as a rookie at Commonwealth Stadium.

“I was attempting to catch a ball,” he recalled. “Literally, because of where the end zones were in my first year, like two steps out of bounds, you were sliding on the track.

“Immediately, I was just running and I slid on the track and I slit open my leg, my side, everything. It was bad.”

“Those cleats slip on that (track) pretty quick,” said veteran slotback Adarius Bowman. “I’m pretty sure it’ll probably prevent not bad injuries, but the little nicks and bruises you get from falling on that stuff.”

Both Chambers and Bowman also like the new end zones, which Chambers called “amazing,” because there’s another five or more yards for receivers to make plays.

“I’m very excited we’ve got that there,” said Bowman. “We can catch that corner ball instead of being on the track when you get your corner ball.”

Bowman said he used to adjust his pass routes so he didn’t risk running out of room in the corner of the end zone.

“The addition will help me a bit more,” he said. “I feel like I will have a lot more time, I probably can burst out of my route a little bit further, but it definitely will make the game a lot safer.”

It’s not just the receivers who like the new end zones. Fourth-year CFL veteran Chris Rwabukamba, who is competing for a job at the safety position, is also excited.

“I definitely feel it’s going to be better for us. Player safety is No. 1,” he said. “We already play a very violent game, so any rule that helps the players and keeps them safe and keeps them playing a longer time, I’m all for it.

“I definitely feel like it’ll help the players, help receivers and DBs, to make plays,” he added.

While the receivers see more room to get open, Rwabukamba takes a different viewpoint.

“I look at it like the longer the ball hangs in the air, it’s my ball, so it gives me a little more time to go get it as well,” he said. “I feel it’ll give DBs more chances to make plays.”

Rwabukamba hasn’t had any bad experiences deep in the end zone at Commonwealth Stadium, but he felt the rounded end zones at Montreal’s Percival Molson Stadium cost him an interception last year “because I was worried with the way the end was.”

[CFLfan]

Since BMO hasn't had CFL ball for long ... how about you get the end zones changed in Edmonton before you take on Toronto. Go for the older violation first.

I think the first stadium to have the reduced end zones was Vancouver, the CFL authorized the shorter end zones back then. Then after that it was the Rogers Centre, the CFL has compromised over the years.
I couldn't care less if end zones are 20 or 18 or 15, it's the play that's between the goal lines that's important.
Even if they went to 10 yards it wouldn't bother me, at least the end zone seats would be closer to the goal line.
Many stadiums are doing away with the end zone seats because they are at lest 25 yards behind the goal line and tough to sell those seats.
I like the idea of the end zone party zones like they have have in other CFL cities.

[bannedforlife]

Shortening the endzone limits the amount of plays you can run the closer you get to the (and into) the redzone. Playbook gets smaller, less options.

[CFLfan]

Shortening the endzone limits the amount of plays you can run the closer you get to the (and into) the redzone. Playbook gets smaller, less options.

No, your run plays, your short passes/screen plays are the same. The passing plays into the end zone are the same, the receivers just run shorter routes.

[bannedforlife]

No, your run plays, your short passes/screen plays are the same. The passing plays into the end zone are the same, the receivers just run shorter routes.I don't think so, Tim.

[AngeloV]

Shortening the endzone limits the amount of plays you can run the closer you get to the (and into) the redzone. Playbook gets smaller, less options.

We're talking a 2 yard difference. I don't think it's a big deal. It certainly hasn't been brought up by anyone (coaches or players) in the 3 years the team has been at BMO. As long as both teams know what they are dealing with, there is no competitive advantage. But if you want to really go further into it, it would be a good to see the successful 2 point conversion rate in BMO as compared to other stadiums.

[bannedforlife]

I wasn't talking about BMO specifically but if you read the example from Edmonton you can see the difference a few yards makes. Actually, I got the information about shortening the endzone and playbook directly from a CFL coach IIRC. Don't ask me to prove it because I can't remember where I posted it and it was a few years ago. Generally I can back up with proof what I post :)

[CFLfan]

I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.

[argofan81]

I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.

Why is it bad for the Argos to have 50% capacity but I have seen nothing about the fact that Edmonton had just that (25,263 attendance according to the game tracker in a stadium that holds over 56,000) at their home opener last week? I realize that we need a few more weeks to see if this is consistent for the Eskimos but it irks me that the focus is always on the Argos not being at capacity.

[Argo57]

Why is it bad for the Argos to have 50% capacity but I have seen nothing about the fact that Edmonton had just that (25,263 attendance according to the game tracker in a stadium that holds over 56,000) at their home opener last week? I realize that we need a few more weeks to see if this is consistent for the Eskimos but it irks me that the focus is always on the Argos not being at capacity.

Relocating from a recently renovated BMO Field with great sightlines and covered seating to an outdated dump sounds like a reasonable plan to increase attendance👍

[bannedforlife]

Why is it bad for the Argos to have 50% capacity but I have seen nothing about the fact that Edmonton had just that (25,263 attendance according to the game tracker in a stadium that holds over 56,000) at their home opener last week? I realize that we need a few more weeks to see if this is consistent for the Eskimos but it irks me that the focus is always on the Argos not being at capacity.It's bad if a person is not really a fan of the CFL and they like to plant FUD and fake news, not that anyone here would do that.

[bannedforlife]

Is the word that the home opener will be a sellout minus the upperdeck? I went to ticketmaster and if I'm reading it correctly it didn't look there were a whole lotta seats available.

[Neely2005]

I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.

Well this is the stupidest idea that I've heard today.

[gilthethrill]

I doubt Lamport Stadium is up to CFL standards....actually I highly doubt it. Let's focus on increasing attendance in BMO, which is a nice facility IMO.

[paulwoods13]

The Lamport discussion was exhausted years ago. It is not even close to good enough, does not have the footprint for needed expansion, no proper facilities for broadcast and team uses, terrible for fans (benches, concessions, no parking), etc. Argos are not moving there, and there isn't one good reason why this should even be discussed. The fact that the team is not selling out BMO at this time is not sufficient reason.

[AngeloV]

I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.

Time for this dude’s (slim Jim) 4th or 5th ban. Another of his famous troll jobs.

[Argo57]

I doubt Lamport Stadium is up to CFL standards....actually I highly doubt it. Let's focus on increasing attendance in BMO, which is a nice facility IMO.

The place was a dive in the early 1980’s when my brother played a high school All-Star game there, I can only imagine what it’s like now.
Brilliant suggestion from the get go👎

[bannedforlife]

Time for this dude’s (slim Jim) 4th or 5th ban. Another of his famous troll jobs.Naaah, this guy is so entrenched getting away with the T-Word at other CFL sites, I think he has incriminating photos :)

[Joe Barnes]

The new hybrid field looked good, in person, on Saturday. Watching the replays at home later, I noticed that the players were not really creating any divots, that I could see. That is a huge difference from the terrible field we had last year, and certainly what MLSE was looking for, out of it's big investment in the field. I wonder how the players found it, since it apparently doesn't 'give' like a regular grass field?

[Neely2005]

Has anyone heard any comments from the players about how they like the new playing surface?

[ArgoGabe22]

Has anyone heard any comments from the players about how they like the new playing surface?

We’re not in the end zone enough to gather an opinion

[CFLfan]

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I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.


Well this is the stupidest idea that I've heard today.

The Wolfpack played at Lamport on Saturday afternoon, 7k in attendance. Looked to be around the same attendance at BMO for the Argo game.
The East stand might have had 1,00 people in attendance, the West stand maybe 7k ??
We need a smaller stadium.

[bannedforlife]

We need a smaller stadium.We need less T'words who are smart enough to google articles and pretend they are fans.

[argolio]

Someone is quickly wearing out their welcome here.

[AngeloV]

Someone is quickly wearing out their welcome here.

Sorry. I’ll try and be better.

[bannedforlife]

Sorry. I’ll try and be better.I thought it was me.

[AngeloV]

I thought it was me.

Historically, yes. LOL!!!

[bannedforlife]

Historically, yes. LOL!!!Well you know how I feel about those Twords :) BTW I changed my handle because I forgot my old password, just to be transparent.

[Neely2005]

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I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.



The Wolfpack played at Lamport on Saturday afternoon, 7k in attendance. Looked to be around the same attendance at BMO for the Argo game.
The East stand might have had 1,00 people in attendance, the West stand maybe 7k ??
We need a smaller stadium.

Lol 7k?!? The first picture in this Thread says otherwise:

http://www.argofans.com/showthread.php?6053-Why-doesn-t-TSN-show-the-side-of-BMO-Field-that-is-actually-full-with-fans


How has this Troll not been banned yet?

[bannedforlife]

How has this Troll not been banned yet?It's a mystery to me
The game commences
For the usual fee
Plus expenses

Dire Straits - Private Investigations

[Bosco]

Lol 7k?!? The first picture in this Thread says otherwise:

http://www.argofans.com/showthread.php?6053-Why-doesn-t-TSN-show-the-side-of-BMO-Field-that-is-actually-full-with-fans


How has this Troll not been banned yet?

looks like a picture from a different game... the other team here is wearing red pants in that picture and the Lions were wearing black pants at the game this weekend

[Will]

Whenever we ban someone -- people start screaming about their free speech.

[Neely2005]

looks like a picture from a different game... the other team here is wearing red pants in that picture and the Lions were wearing black pants at the game this weekend

Were you at the game?

[Neely2005]

Whenever we ban someone -- people start screaming about their free speech.

There's no free speech on a private site, there's a TOS Agreement.

Go try to talk about the Argonauts on the TFC site and see how long it is before you're banned.

[Bosco]

Were you at the game?

I don't need to be at the game to see that the pictures are from 2 totally different games.

the twitter pics show how many are in the stands on both sides during gameplay while the lions are dressed in black pants. the other picture that people are using as "proof" that there were actually more people in the stands on the one side is from a pre-game ceremony where the opposing team is wearing red pants. are you claiming the pictures are from the same game?

[mchesher03]

back to the playing surface - which looked great and appeared to have held up well. The north endzone looks infinitely better than the previous iteration too.

[Will]

We’re not in the end zone enough to gather an opinion

A hard, cold truth.

[Neely2005]

I don't need to be at the game to see that the pictures are from 2 totally different games.

the twitter pics show how many are in the stands on both sides during gameplay while the lions are dressed in black pants. the other picture that people are using as "proof" that there were actually more people in the stands on the one side is from a pre-game ceremony where the opposing team is wearing red pants. are you claiming the pictures are from the same game?

So you weren't at the game then. So don't try to misrepresent the attendance to people who were actually there,

[Foxhound]

I believe that Chris Rainey is now in full agreement with our widely held sentiment that the end zones at BMO Field just aren't deep enough.

:sick:

[Bosco]

So you weren't at the game then. So don't try to misrepresent the attendance to people who were actually there,

don't try to misrepresent the attendance without actual proof. how do I know you're not lying - especially when there's proof that conflicts with your claims?
were you even at the game? Show some pictures to counter the proof that was provided by the photographs I linked to.

[AngeloV]

don't try to misrepresent the attendance without actual proof. how do I know you're not lying - especially when there's proof that conflicts with your claims?
were you even at the game? Show some pictures to counter the proof that was provided by the photographs I linked to.

I don't know how this argument has escalated to where it is, but I was at the game. IMO, there were no less than 12,000 butts in the seats. Not a great number, but I think Neely's point is about the constant misinformation spread by Slim Jim/CFLfan/whatever the hell he will call himself after his next banning.

[Neely2005]

don't try to misrepresent the attendance without actual proof. how do I know you're not lying - especially when there's proof that conflicts with your claims?
were you even at the game? Show some pictures to counter the proof that was provided by the photographs I linked to.

Yes I was at the game, we have Season Tickets. If you were at the game you'd know that the pictures that you posted are completely misleading. As usual the West Grandstands were near capacity and the East Grandstands were nearly empty.

[Neely2005]

I don't know how this argument has escalated to where it is, but I was at the game. IMO, there were no less than 12,000 butts in the seats. Not a great number, but I think Neely's point is about the constant misinformation spread by Slim Jim/CFLfan/whatever the hell he will call himself after his next banning.

12,000 sounds about right to me. Yup, it's ridiculous that people that claim to be Argonauts fans keep coming to an Argonauts Forum to misrepresent and troll.

[bannedforlife]

12,000 sounds about right to me. Yup, it's ridiculous that people that claim to be Argonauts fans keep coming to an Argonauts Forum to misrepresent and troll.I just wonder why CFL sites allow it and soccer sites don't. Are CFL people so old and naive they don't realize it's happening, I can spot a tword after one post, they give themselves away. I won't give away all my secrets on how to tell, lest they learn something, but all you have to do is right click on the guys name and view all forum posts, you might be surprised. Why would you constantly raise negative points and make insidious jabs at something you are a fan of, doesn't pass the ol common sense test.

[Shatto]

Having attended all but one of the Argo games at BMO, I'd estimate somewhere between 12,000 and 13,000. Not great but considering how poorly the team played the first two game of the season, not unexpected.

What it difficult to understand is why anyone comes on this site to almost gleefully (reading between the lines) to denigrate the team and its attendance.

A couple of years ago, I went on the TFC forum site and made what I thought was a diplomatic comment about the fans of TFC and Argos needing to get along and support each other. Admittedly, I did point out the stadium was city owned and not the sole preserve of any one team. That was enough to have me banned for all eternity! Perhaps we need to cull some of these naysayers, who seem to have little to contribute in a positive manner.

[bannedforlife]

What it difficult to understand is why anyone comes on this site to almost gleefully (reading between the lines) to denigrate the team and its attendance. Because they want to kill the team and the league in the delusion that their pet sport, MLS or NFL will take over. You never saw this before the Argos went to BMO, back then soccer fans were content to insult what they called fat baseball players.

Mods, my suggestion, so we don't hijack threads like this, is to have a dedicated T'WORD thread. Everybody can grind their axe there without other threads getting off track. Obviously, I have a lot to say on this subject and my big issue is if new fans come to our CFL sites and see these lies they can be influenced and go away with wrong impressions, which doesn't help grow our game.

I'd start a TWord thread but I'm afraid, because of past history, it will get closed, but it would be the best place to contain and discuss this type of thing.

[doubleblue]

12,000 sounds about right to me. Yup, it's ridiculous that people that claim to be Argonauts fans keep coming to an Argonauts Forum to misrepresent and troll.

Does anyone know what the capacity is of the lower East side stands are. I was guessing there may have been around 14,000 total there Saturday night, but that may not have been the paid attendance because of the free children's tickets. For some reason the Argos haven't given a total yet that I have seen for Saturday night.

[Mightygoose]

The Argos have not announced the attendance 2 out of the 3 past home games dating back to last season.

For some reason, they announce scanned which makes the numbers worse than what they are compared to other teams/sports. Perhaps they don't need the added negativity with small numbers being announced as it does do anything to sell the game. If they announce sold and distributed then they're open to similar critism. Just my thoughts.

If the crowd was between 12-13K, then it's in line with our second game last year and higher by about 1000-1500 than last year's family day game. Even with child free tickets, considering adult prices have increased a bit and the team coming off a 4-14 season and 2 blowout losses to start the season, it could have been allot worse.

[Ron]

I doubt Lamport Stadium is up to CFL standards....actually I highly doubt it. Let's focus on increasing attendance in BMO, which is a nice facility IMO.

I never get this part. Why do WE have to focus on increasing attendance? The team does and is doing that. They said last year it'll take at least 10 years. We're 1.3 years into that plan and all freakouts are occurring. (ok, my bad. The freakouts have occurred every week since they said 10 years)

rant: It's gotta be disheartening for team "brass" constantly read all this negative BS about attendance. It'll get handled eventually. They're working on it.

[bannedforlife]

It's gotta be disheartening for team "brass" constantly read all this negative BS about attendance. It'll get handled eventually. They're working on it.It would be nice if they shared some of their short term and long term plans and ideas so people like me who want to promote them and carry the message will have some ammo to go against those who want to see them dead.

[gilthethrill]

I never get this part. Why do WE have to focus on increasing attendance? The team does and is doing that. They said last year it'll take at least 10 years. We're 1.3 years into that plan and all freakouts are occurring. (ok, my bad. The freakouts have occurred every week since they said 10 years)

rant: It's gotta be disheartening for team "brass" constantly read all this negative BS about attendance. It'll get handled eventually. They're working on it.

Gee Ron all I was saying is the Argos don't need to move into a smaller, unsuitable venue and that I enjoy BMO. Not sure where I was freaking out about the attendance.

[AngeloV]

I never get this part. Why do WE have to focus on increasing attendance? The team does and is doing that. They said last year it'll take at least 10 years. We're 1.3 years into that plan and all freakouts are occurring. (ok, my bad. The freakouts have occurred every week since they said 10 years)

rant: It's gotta be disheartening for team "brass" constantly read all this negative BS about attendance. It'll get handled eventually. They're working on it.

Lighten up Ron. It's the team the majority of us on this site cheer for. Many people refer to their favourite team as We.

[Argo57]

I never get this part. Why do WE have to focus on increasing attendance? The team does and is doing that. They said last year it'll take at least 10 years. We're 1.3 years into that plan and all freakouts are occurring. (ok, my bad. The freakouts have occurred every week since they said 10 years)

rant: It's gotta be disheartening for team "brass" constantly read all this negative BS about attendance. It'll get handled eventually. They're working on it.

I suspect the vast majority of fans who post here are season ticket holders or at the very least regularly attend Argo games.
Commenting and expressing concern actually tells the organization that there are still fans who are emotionally invested in this franchise and give a shit about this team which beats apathy and indifference which is the worst thing that could happen.
Respectful and constructive rants are welcome IMO.

[Joe Barnes]

So, about that new hybrid grass...it seemed to hold up very well in that rain on Saturday. In the Argos two games, and the brief looks I've taken of TFC's recent matches, it seems MLSE's investment was a good one. The field looks great, is holding up with few apparent divots, and the new prescription turf end zones blend almost seamlessly, IMO (the players are also not slipping as soon as they enter the North end zone - a huge improvement. So a win for all parties, it would seem.

[gee]

I was at the Wolfpack game on Saturday at Lamport, my first Rugby game. Nice compact stadium that seats 10k but with temp seats in the east end zone they could get probably get seating up to 15k. Might be a good home for the Argos, except for the "all-bench" seating. The Argos have been averaging less than 15k for the last 3 season and probably the same this season. Crowds of 12k to 15k in a 26k stadium is not good.

I cannot comment on the appropriateness of Lamport (I see comments that the place is a dump) and I know that ship has sailed many years ago. but I don't dislike the idea of a compact stadium. just for discussion, would alternatives to conventional stadium expansion be feasible on the site? something like the Wrigleyville Rooftops could give the argos a cool niche atmosphere and provide an opportunity for MLSE to expand their commercial portfolio with bars and restaurants that add to the neighbourhood.

947

[ArgoZ]

There is condos that look into Lamport! Seriously though, one walk around the stadium will answer all questions and show how silly any of this discussion is.

[Mike Hogan]

Hang on, the Argos have a spectacular stadium, the sight lines are the best in the league, the amenities are fabulous, the locker room first rate, and they play on a $2,000,000 playing field (which the players are raving about to get back to the initial theme of the post)...and Lamport is a thing? Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall for a couple of hours.

[Will]

Hang on, the Argos have a spectacular stadium, the sight lines are the best in the league, the amenities are fabulous, the locker room first rate, and they play on a $2,000,000 playing field (which the players are raving about to get back to the initial theme of the post)...and Lamport is a thing? Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall for a couple of hours.

Well said!

[Neely2005]

Hang on, the Argos have a spectacular stadium, the sight lines are the best in the league, the amenities are fabulous, the locker room first rate, and they play on a $2,000,000 playing field (which the players are raving about to get back to the initial theme of the post)...and Lamport is a thing? Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall for a couple of hours.

Lamport is only a thing for the TFC Trolls that are upset about having to share the City Owned BMO Field. The bench seating at Lamport can only accommodate about 9500 fans. The Argonauts average attendance last season was Over 14,000. Anyone with half a brain knows that Lamport isn't an option.

[Joe Barnes]

Hang on, the Argos have a spectacular stadium, the sight lines are the best in the league, the amenities are fabulous, the locker room first rate, and they play on a $2,000,000 playing field (which the players are raving about to get back to the initial theme of the post)...and Lamport is a thing? Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall for a couple of hours.

Thanks, Mike - you are right BMO is excellent and Lamport is...not. As I said, the new field looks great and I'm glad to hear the players like it. That is the most important thing.

[gilthethrill]

Lamport is only a thing for the TFC Trolls that are upset about having to share the City Owned BMO Field. The bench seating at Lamport can only accommodate about 9500 fans. The Argonauts average attendance last season was Over 14,000. Anyone with half a brain knows that Lamport isn't an option.

But Neeley don't forget about putting temporary stands in the End Zone at Lamport!!! Lol.

[Argo57]

Hang on, the Argos have a spectacular stadium, the sight lines are the best in the league, the amenities are fabulous, the locker room first rate, and they play on a $2,000,000 playing field (which the players are raving about to get back to the initial theme of the post)...and Lamport is a thing? Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall for a couple of hours.

Lamport is “a thing” for one 🤡

[Neely2005]

But Neeley don't forget about putting temporary stands in the End Zone at Lamport!!! Lol.

Lol, so in the middle of King Street?
:-)

[bannedforlife]

Hang on, the Argos have a spectacular stadium, the sight lines are the best in the league, the amenities are fabulous, the locker room first rate, and they play on a $2,000,000 playing field (which the players are raving about to get back to the initial theme of the post)...and Lamport is a thing? Excuse me while I go and bang my head against a brick wall for a couple of hours.Lest anyone forget, this whole Lamport non issue was begun by a Tword, nuf ced.

[Will]

Lest anyone forget, this whole Lamport non issue was begun by a Tword, nuf ced.

Who has now been punted from the site. The thread should now go back to discussions regarding the new playing surface at BMO Field.

[doubleblue]

So, about that new hybrid grass...it seemed to hold up very well in that rain on Saturday. In the Argos two games, and the brief looks I've taken of TFC's recent matches, it seems MLSE's investment was a good one. The field looks great, is holding up with few apparent divots, and the new prescription turf end zones blend almost seamlessly, IMO (the players are also not slipping as soon as they enter the North end zone - a huge improvement. So a win for all parties, it would seem.

Getting back to the original topic, I was impressed with the new turf and end zone after seeing it up close the first two games.

[GregR]

BMO is a great place to watch the Argos. Everyone I take there has a great time. Lamport would be gross in its current state. It works for the Wolf Pack for now, but would need a ton of work.

[bannedforlife]

I don't know, so I'll ask, is the new artificial end zone a FieldTurf TM like surface but the old was kind of like first generation artificial turf? Was that true and if so why was that crappy surface used in the first place because there would be a huge difference between that and turf. There would bound to be slips and falls.

[Neely2005]

I don't know, so I'll ask, is the new artificial end zone a FieldTurf TM like surface but the old was kind of like first generation artificial turf? Was that true and if so why was that crappy surface used in the first place because there would be a huge difference between that and turf. There would bound to be slips and falls.

There's some details in the Link in the OP of this Thread.