Cjfl

[Mocha]

First, thanks to the site admin for making this room.



Happy to see the CJFL awarding an expansion club to Prince George, BC.

With Quinte joining the OFC this year, I believe, and Lethbridge rumoured to join the PFC in a year or two, it's good to see positive growth.

https://ckpgtoday.ca/2021/07/09/prince-george-granted-as-newest-cjfl-expansion-franchise/


(https://ckpgtoday.ca/2021/07/09/prince-george-granted-as-newest-cjfl-expansion-franchise/)

[jerrym]

Logan Ferland, a former member of the Regina Thunder junior football team, is trying to become the next Saskatchewan born player to join the long list of local Rider OL,




Heading into the season, the front line of the offence was expected to be one of the team’s strengths. Brendon LaBatte was expected to anchor a line lead by the likes of Evan Johnson, Dan Clark and Terran Vaughn. Instead, LaBatte has decided to sit out the 2021 season (https://3downnation.com/2021/06/30/saskie-ol-brendon-labatte-sits-out-2021-riders-season-the-ask-has-never-been-bigger-and-the-reward-has-never-been-less/). His reasons are completely logical, there’s no debating that. So, the Riders are at a point where a good portion of their offensive line will now have to be rebuilt since the last time we saw them on the field. How that works out will go a long way in determining how the team will be this season.
One name that has garnered some attention by people much smarter than me, and my fellow Green Cast co-host John Fraser, is Melfort, Saskatchewan born Logan Ferland, a former member of the Regina Thunder junior football team.



Ferland joined the team in 2019 as a regional practice roster player when he was still a member of the Thunder and has been growing ever since. The discussion around Ferland is hard to ignore at this point. He may not be a starter this season, but Ferland may be another Saskatchewan-born offensive lineman to eventually start for the green and white in the not too distant future.
“Logan is a kid that has grown leaps and bounds every year. We liked him a couple of years ago as a junior player,” said head coach Craig Dickenson. “All he did [during the pandemic lost season] is lift, study and it looks like eat protein cause he got big and strong. As long as he can mentally pick it up, he’s got a chance to be a good lineman in this league.”
https://3downnation.com/2021/07/16/riders-ol-logan-ferland-aiming-to-be-next-junior-football-success-story-in-saskatchewan/

[jerrym]

BC Lions have cut RB Andrew Pocrnic, who broke Andrew Harris's record of scoring 20 TDs for the Langley Rams in the CJFL in 2019 by scoring 27 TDs. But Harris didn't make the team when he first was taken by the Lions in 2008.

[OV Argo]

BC Lions have cut RB Andrew Pocrnic, who broke Andrew Harris's record of scoring 20 TDs for the Langley Rams in the CJFL in 2019 by scoring 27 TDs. But Harris didn't make the team when he first was taken by the Lions in 2008.

GOB Campbell would have mostly no use for a Canadian tailback.

[Mocha]

Some CFL teams could use this kicker. He put an end to Saskatoon's amazing win streak.

https://www.ckom.com/2021/09/12/regina-thunder-end-saskatoon-hilltops-32-game-win-streak-with-walk-off-field-goal/

[Mocha]

OFC Standings:

Ontario Conference (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6534559-ofc) - 2021 Regular Season


TeamGPWLTPTSForAgainstStrk

[/URL]St. Clair Fratmen (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057894-st-clair-fratmen?subseason=712522)
2
2
0
0
4
92
23
W2


Hamilton Hurricanes (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057876-hamilton-hurricanes?subseason=712522)
3
2
1
0
4
120
56
W2


London Beefeaters (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057882-london-beefeaters?subseason=712522)
3
2
1
0
4
110
53
L1


Ottawa Sooners (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057885-ottawa-sooners?subseason=712522)
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
-


GTA Grizzlies (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057875-gta-grizzlies?subseason=712522)
2
0
2
0
0
4
104
L2


[URL="https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057886-quinte-skyhawks"]Quinte Skyhawks (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057886-quinte-skyhawks?subseason=712522)
2
0
2
0
0
43
133
L2



Boy the GTA Grizzlies have been pummeled. They play the expansion Quinte Skyhawks today, so hopefully the two bottom dwellers can have a competitive match.

[Mocha]

And even the expansion Quinte team spanks the GTA. Well, 31-20 isn't as terrible as past weeks.

[AngeloV]

And even the expansion Quinte team spanks the GTA. Well, 31-20 isn't as terrible as past weeks.

Most GTA players have no desire to play junior football. I know it's been 32 years since I played, but when I played for the Oshawa Hawkeyes, we would routinely only get 10-12 players out to practice. As QB, luckily for me, it was my centre, RB's and receivers there every practice, so we had some timing on O. It's a miracle we went 2-6 that year. Our talent level was really high, but the continuity wasn't. We also had a great coaching staff, led by former Laurier QB Mike Wilson as HC.

[OV Argo]

Most GTA players have no desire to play junior football. I know it's been 32 years since I played, but when I played for the Oshawa Hawkeyes, we would routinely only get 10-12 players out to practice. As QB, luckily for me, it was my centre, RB's and receivers there every practice, so we had some timing on O. It's a miracle we went 2-6 that year. Our talent level was really high, but the continuity wasn't. We also had a great coaching staff, led by former Laurier QB Mike Wilson as HC.


Hmm; interesting AV - why would that be?

We had more guys out for practice in beer league touch football back in the 80s/90s in Ottawa ;o); still 2 Junior teams (one in the Ontario league and one in the Quebec loop) going strong here in a demographic about 1/5 the size of the GTA to draw from (though i have no idea if they have trouble getting guys out for practices)

[Mocha]

That is a real shame. I haven't really followed the OFC in the past. But just checking the online records dating back to 2014, the Grizzlies always have a losing record. The best they managed in that time was 3-5.

[Mocha]

On another CJFL note, I read that Regina beat Saskatoon for the second week in a row. handing the Hilltops two consecutive losses after their string of 30+ straight victories.

[AngeloV]

Hmm; interesting AV - why would that be?

We had more guys out for practice in beer league touch football back in the 80s/90s in Ottawa ;o); still 2 Junior teams (one in the Ontario league and one in the Quebec loop) going strong here in a demographic about 1/5 the size of the GTA to draw from (though i have no idea if they have trouble getting guys out for practices)

I really think GTA kids are looking at college/University ball. IF they don't go that route, for the most part they aren't interested in continuing to play. Also, junior ball isn't really talked about much in these parts. I'll be honest, I didn't even know of the Oshawa Hawkeyes until they approached me after the 1988 high school all star classic at Varsity stadium (I represented North York and we played Toronto). Playing in the classic was my goal in high school as far as football went. I attended the previous few and really wanted to play in it. 3 great games represented by 6 different leagues. My high school teammate and I took the go train to Oshawa to get fitted for equipment a couple of weeks later. No tryout or anything. I was the only QB on the roster, and my back up was my starting TE. Again, come game day, we had some great talent, even if we didn't really know who these guys were all the time.

[AngeloV]

On another CJFL note, I read that Regina beat Saskatoon for the second week in a row. handing the Hilltops two consecutive losses after their string of 30+ straight victories.

I Saskatchewan, Junior ball is still huge. A lot of Canada west players are older because they complete 4 years of junior before going to University.

[Mocha]

An update on OFC standings:

Ontario Conference (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6534559-ofc) - 2021 Regular Season


TeamGPWLTPTSForAgainstStrk

[/URL]St. Clair Fratmen (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057894-st-clair-fratmen?subseason=712522)
4
4
0
0
8
211
57
W4


Hamilton Hurricanes (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057876-hamilton-hurricanes?subseason=712522)
4
3
1
0
6
141
63
W3


London Beefeaters (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057882-london-beefeaters?subseason=712522)
5
3
2
0
6
166
107
L1


Quinte Skyhawks (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057886-quinte-skyhawks?subseason=712522)
5
1
4
0
2
87
242
L2


Ottawa Sooners (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057885-ottawa-sooners?subseason=712522)
0
0
0
0
0
0
0
-


[URL="https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057875-gta-grizzlies"]GTA Grizzlies (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/6057875-gta-grizzlies?subseason=712522)
4
0
4
0
0
27
163
L4



GTA still wallowing in the basement. It looks like the expansion Quinte are starting to improve, albeit slowly. They beat GTA, got blown out by St Clair, and then lost 21-7 to Hamilton.

[Mocha]

Anyone catch St Clair vs London this evening?

What a comeback by London (or, more realistically, what a breakdown by St Clair) in the last two minutes!

Anyways, the London Beefeaters will play the Langley Rams for the Canadian Bowl.

[jerrym]

Langley Rams defeated Saskatoon Hilltops 17-14 in the National Semi-Final in a close one.

https://www.cjfl.org/news_article/show/1195159

[jerrym]

BC Football Conference's Langley Rams hammered London Beefeaters 37-0 in the first bowl shutout since 2003 to win the Canadian Bowl with a merciless defence that had ten sacks.

https://www.westerlynews.ca/sports/langley-rams-win-canadian-bowl/

[Mocha]

BC Football Conference's Langley Rams hammered London Beefeaters 37-0 in the first bowl shutout since 2003 to win the Canadian Bowl with a merciless defence that had ten sacks.

https://www.westerlynews.ca/sports/langley-rams-win-canadian-bowl/

Daniel Kubongo of the Rams might be a player to keep an eye on. He won CJFL rookie of the year and special teams player of the Canadian Bowl.

[Mocha]

Just saw this on FB, for the new BCFL team in Prince George:


https://fb.watch/b2aY6PthB2/

Nice to see some new teams to the CJFL ranks.

[Mocha]

The 2022 OFC season is upon us. Not a great start by the Grizzlies.

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[Mocha]

BC Football Conference's Langley Rams hammered London Beefeaters 37-0 in the first bowl shutout since 2003 to win the Canadian Bowl with a merciless defence that had ten sacks.

https://www.westerlynews.ca/sports/langley-rams-win-canadian-bowl/

The Rams have been struggling early this season, now at 0-3.

The Beefeaters, on the other hand, hammered Ottawa Sooners in their season opener.

[Mocha]

All conferences are now into their seasons. Ottawa Sooners are back for the first time since 2019, IIRC, and got their first win yesterday. St Clair and London look like the early favourites again.

[Mocha]

GTA Grizzlies are off to a terrible start, as usual.

They play against London today, and it will probably be ugly, but might be worth a peak.





London Beefeaters (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/7352471-london-beefeaters?subseason=832674)
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GTA Grizzlies (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/7352475-gta-grizzlies?subseason=832674)
-
Chinguacousy Park, Bramalea Road, Brampton, ON, Canada
1:00 PM EDT (https://www.cjfl.org/game/show/36060100?subseason=832674&referrer=7352470)


St. Clair Saints (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/7352472-st-clair-saints?subseason=832674)
-
Quinte Skyhawks (https://www.cjfl.org/page/show/7352477-quinte-skyhawks?subseason=832674)
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Loyalist College, Wallbridge Loyalist Road, Belleville, ON, Canada
2:00 PM EDT (https://www.cjfl.org/game/show/36060095?subseason=832674&referrer=7352470)




The game will probably be shown on youtube here:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA8p_K582zkVQWAarnSj-kw/videos

[Mocha]

I couldn't find any stream of the Grizzlies game, but just as well. They lost 43-7 to London.

[AngeloV]

I couldn't find any stream of the Grizzlies game, but just as well. They lost 43-7 to London.

Beefeaters always have a pretty good squad. We used to joke that it was Western's practice roster when I played.

[Mocha]

Beefeaters always have a pretty good squad. We used to joke that it was Western's practice roster when I played.

There seems to be three tiers among the six teams. London and St. Clair will battle again for first. GTA and Quinte will battle for last, or I guess fifth. And Hamilton and Ottawa will battle for third. But who knows. Ottawa is fielding a team for the first time since 2019, so maybe they'll improve a lot to push the top two.

[AngeloV]

There seems to be three tiers among the six teams. London and St. Clair will battle again for first. GTA and Quinte will battle for last, or I guess fifth. And Hamilton and Ottawa will battle for third. But who knows. Ottawa is fielding a team for the first time since 2019, so maybe they'll improve a lot to push the top two.

When I played, it was Ottawa, Oshawa, Burlington, Hamilton, London and Windsor. We were usually at the bottom of the league in Oshawa, but in 1988 we were very competitive and finished 2-6 with 4 of the losses all within 1 score. Windsor was the class of the league and one of our 2 wins were against that team. Best Oshawa team in years, then the coaching staff left before the 1989 season and it all spiraled downwards.

[OV Argo]

When I played, it was Ottawa, Oshawa, Burlington, Hamilton, London and Windsor. We were usually at the bottom of the league in Oshawa, but in 1988 we were very competitive and finished 2-6 with 4 of the losses all within 1 score. Windsor was the class of the league and one of our 2 wins were against that team. Best Oshawa team in years, then the coaching staff left before the 1989 season and it all spiraled downwards.


Looking at Ottawa Sooners history - 1988 - shows a 3 to 1 win over Oshawa in Ottawa? - is that correct? Quite the low scoring affair ;o) Were games played at the Nepean Sportsplex field back then? - rock hard old artificial turf ? (i played in an ONTFL touch league game there in the 90s - game held there for some reason as most were played on real grass HS fields) Maybe I saw you play back then AV - didn't go to many Sooners games, but a few (and their star RB back around mid -late 80s was the little brother of a good friend of mine)

[AngeloV]

Looking at Ottawa Sooners history - 1988 - shows a 3 to 1 win over Oshawa in Ottawa? - is that correct? Quite the low scoring affair ;o) Were games played at the Nepean Sportsplex field back then? - rock hard old artificial turf ? (i played in an ONTFL touch league game there in the 90s - game held there for some reason as most were played on real grass HS fields) Maybe I saw you play back then AV - didn't go to many Sooners games, but a few (and their star RB back around mid -late 80s was the little brother of a good friend of mine)

That is correct. I injured my thumb on the first pass of my first ever game in the league on a follow through against a D-lineman’s helmet, and we had no back up QB. I threw only 2 more passes that game and it was ugly. I missed the next game against Hamilton Hurricanes but played the last 6 games. We lost to Ottawa at home late in the season on a hook and lateral in the last minute, I believe 36-31. My highest passing yards total of 360. The game in Nepean was the first time I had ever played on artificial turf and didn’t tape my ankles. I sprained my right ankle later in the game, but got it taped up and finished. Sooners backfield that year had some guy name Shearon and Darren Joseph

[OV Argo]

That is correct. I injured my thumb on the first pass of my first ever game in the league on a follow through against a D-lineman’s helmet, and we had no back up QB. I threw only 2 more passes that game and it was ugly. I missed the next game against Hamilton Hurricanes but played the last 6 games. We lost to Ottawa at home late in the season on a hook and lateral in the last minute, I believe 36-31. My highest passing yards total of 360. The game in Nepean was the first time I had ever played on artificial turf and didn’t tape my ankles. I sprained my right ankle later in the game, but got it taped up and finished. Sooners backfield that year had some guy name Shearon and Darren Joseph

Tough start - thumb & ankle in your first game. Mike, is that other Sooners' RB's 1st name; set some league records that still might stand; went on to play for Carleton Ravens and then the semi-pro Ottawa Bootleggers (American league)

[AngeloV]

Tough start - thumb & ankle in your first game. Mike, is that other Sooners' RB's 1st name; set some league records that still might stand; went on to play for Carleton Ravens and then the semi-pro Ottawa Bootleggers (American league)

That's the guy. Wore #32. He was good. He was on the back end of the hook and lateral that beat us at home and ended our playoff aspirations, dropping us to 2-5. I talked the coach into letting me call my own plays for the last game at Ivor Wynn and ended up throwing for over 300 yards and 3 TD's, but also threw 6 picks. I had only thrown 8 going into that game LOL. I guess sometimes coaches do know better.

[Mocha]

I enjoy reading these accounts of the past. I noticed today that the GTA Grizzlies twitter account claims they are the "official feeder team to the Toronto Argonauts". Anyone know if any former Grizzlies have actually suited up for the Argos?

And just a general FYI, the Grizzlies are in Hamilton tonight to face the Hurricanes on a rare weekday game.

[AngeloV]

I enjoy reading these accounts of the past. I noticed today that the GTA Grizzlies twitter account claims they are the "official feeder team to the Toronto Argonauts". Anyone know if any former Grizzlies have actually suited up for the Argos?

And just a general FYI, the Grizzlies are in Hamilton tonight to face the Hurricanes on a rare weekday game.

In the 80's, my team the Oshawa Hawkeyes were affiliated with the Argos. I actually was at an Argos evaluation camp in '89. I knew I had no shot of getting an invite to a higher camp, but it was still pretty cool to be looked at by Obie and the coaching staff. Our MLB Marco Arbour was the Argos last selection in the '90 draft. He led the OFC in tackles in 1989, but I don't believe he ever went to camp. His decision.

My 88 and 89 teams had a lot of players go in to play for St Mary's Huskies as our OC Ken Goddard was very close to Larry Uteck. From memory, I will say RB Anthony Oxley (cup of coffee with the Ottawa Rough Riders), Centre Chris Goddard (played TE on my Hawkeyes team), OL Brad Chalmers, safety Trevor Burke, LB Don Joskow, FB Ewan Walker and I'm sure I am missing 2 or 3 more. Acouple of others went on to play at Waterloo in OL Fam Lone and WR Hayden Vialva.

Argos also selected Burlington Tiger Cats receiver Curtis Bell who suited up for a handful of games for them I believe in 1990. He was damn good in junior.

Former Hawkeyes to play in the CFL that I am aware of include Steve Howlett, Nick Benjamin, David Black and my former teammate (prior to going to Indiana University) Andrew Greene.

Like Oshawa, the GTA team really struggles to get good talent from the GTA, as most of the best GTA players go to Usport. Canada West OTOH, has a high number of players that play 2 or 3 years in the Prairie or BCJFL leagues prior to playing Usport. It's why the players from Canada West are often older than the OUA.

[OV Argo]

In the 80's, my team the Oshawa Hawkeyes were affiliated with the Argos. I actually was at an Argos evaluation camp in '89. I knew I had no shot of getting an invite to a higher camp, but it was still pretty cool to be looked at by Obie and the coaching staff. Our MLB Marco Arbour was the Argos last selection in the '90 draft. He led the OFC in tackles in 1989, but I don't believe he ever went to camp. His decision.

My 88 and 89 teams had a lot of players go in to play for St Mary's Huskies as our OC Ken Goddard was very close to Larry Uteck. From memory, I will say RB Anthony Oxley (cup of coffee with the Ottawa Rough Riders), Centre Chris Goddard (played TE on my Hawkeyes team), OL Brad Chalmers, safety Trevor Burke, LB Don Joskow, FB Ewan Walker and I'm sure I am missing 2 or 3 more. Acouple of others went on to play at Waterloo in OL Fam Lone and WR Hayden Vialva.

Argos also selected Burlington Tiger Cats receiver Curtis Bell who suited up for a handful of games for them I believe in 1990. He was damn good in junior.

Former Hawkeyes to play in the CFL that I am aware of include Steve Howlett, Nick Benjamin, David Black and my former teammate (prior to going to Indiana University) Andrew Greene.

Like Oshawa, the GTA team really struggles to get good talent from the GTA, as most of the best GTA players go to Usport. Canada West OTOH, has a high number of players that play 2 or 3 years in the Prairie or BCJFL leagues prior to playing Usport. It's why the players from Canada West are often older than the OUA.


U Sports changed the rules on eligibility so guys could not play a few years of Junior and then go on to play U Sports ball - some sort of age limit thing now ? Not sure I agree with the cry-babying from some that saw that rule changed? - anybody attending (actually going to classes, passing courses, etc.) should be allowed to play for their University sports team IMO - plain & simple; and tough luck if they are a certain age or had lots of Junior ball experience before (and they may have been brought in just to play football, with no real intention of getting schooling, but how do you prove that?) 20 year old athletes can't possibly compete with 25 year olds? - what a crock. Should a 30 year old who returns to get more education at a University, and happens to love football and be a good player be banned from playing - WTF ? Petty, jealous B$ IMO.


And BTW AV - pretty sure that ex-Sooner RB told a story of being invited to some sort of Argo try-out back in the day, which amounted to running some sprints in a park somewhere in the GTA - a joke, I believe he referred to it as. The old Ottawa Sooners placed many very good players on old Ottawa Rough Rider teams, as did a number of Junior teams to various CFL teams (all-time greats like C Jon Bonk or DT Glen Weir) but those were different days/times where a lot of top talent did not go to CIAU teams. Good thing Andrew Harris was not CFL written-off back when he came out of Junior ball; Jevon Cottoy now too.