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Argo57
03-16-2023, 05:22 PM
A very well deserved honour for the late Chris Schultz.
I still miss seeing him on the TSN panel and also listening on Argo radio broadcasts with Mike Hogan.
Sadly gone too soon.

https://3downnation.com/2023/03/16/long-time-cfl-on-tsn-panellist-chris-schultz-posthumously-inducted-into-media-wing-of-canadian-football-hall-of-fame/

Will
03-16-2023, 05:24 PM
He definitely deserves to be inducted for his broadcasting work, but I feel he is also worthy to have been inducted for his playing career as well.

Will
03-16-2023, 05:24 PM
DB Larry Crawford and OL Josh Bourke are former Argos who were also announced as inductees, however they are more associated with the Lions and Alouettes respectively.

ArgoRavi
03-16-2023, 07:28 PM
He definitely deserves to be inducted for his broadcasting work, but I feel he is also worthy to have been inducted for his playing career as well.

How often was Schultz a divisional/league all-star? I don't know the answer to that question but I imagine that is a factor. Also, I don't believe he was ever nominated from the East for top offensive lineman. I can't recall that happening anyway.

Rocco Romano made it into the CFHOF years ago and his accomplishments, while respectable, may not necessarily have been HOF worthy. I would consider Schultz to have been a superior lineman although Romano, I believe, played guard while Schultz played the very visible left tackle position. Lloyd Fairbanks is only getting in this year and probably should have been inducted long ago. DB Larry Crawford is way overdue for induction IMO and it is nice to see it finally happen for him.

EDIT: I just checked Wikipedia and this is what they have:

In 1986 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_CFL_season), Schultz returned to Canada to play for the Toronto Argonauts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Argonauts) of the Canadian Football League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Football_League) (CFL), who owned his rights after drafting him in the first round of the 1982 CFL Draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_CFL_Draft). He played in 124 games for the Argos over his nine-year career.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Schultz#cite_note-Pick_of_the_Argos_crop-4) Schultz was named a CFL All-Star twice (1987 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_CFL_season#1987_CFL_All-Stars), 1988 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_CFL_season#1988_CFL_All-Stars)), appeared in the Grey Cup in 1987 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/75th_Grey_Cup) and was a member of the 1991 Grey Cup championship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/79th_Grey_Cup) team.
In 2007, he was named to the Argonauts All-time team.

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I am not sure that those are HOF numbers for Schultz which is why I can see him being inducted for his media work as opposed to his playing career, which was not a bad one by any measure.

OV Argo
03-16-2023, 08:59 PM
How often was Schultz a divisional/league all-star? I don't know the answer to that question but I imagine that is a factor. Also, I don't believe he was ever nominated from the East for top offensive lineman. I can't recall that happening anyway.

Rocco Romano made it into the CFHOF years ago and his accomplishments, while respectable, may not necessarily have been HOF worthy. I would consider Schultz to have been a superior lineman although Romano, I believe, played guard while Schultz played the very visible left tackle position. Lloyd Fairbanks is only getting in this year and probably should have been inducted long ago. DB Larry Crawford is way overdue for induction IMO and it is nice to see it finally happen for him.

EDIT: I just checked Wikipedia and this is what they have:

In 1986 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_CFL_season), Schultz returned to Canada to play for the Toronto Argonauts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Argonauts) of the Canadian Football League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Football_League) (CFL), who owned his rights after drafting him in the first round of the 1982 CFL Draft (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_CFL_Draft). He played in 124 games for the Argos over his nine-year career.[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Schultz#cite_note-Pick_of_the_Argos_crop-4) Schultz was named a CFL All-Star twice (1987 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_CFL_season#1987_CFL_All-Stars), 1988 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988_CFL_season#1988_CFL_All-Stars)), appeared in the Grey Cup in 1987 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/75th_Grey_Cup) and was a member of the 1991 Grey Cup championship (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/79th_Grey_Cup) team.
In 2007, he was named to the Argonauts All-time team.

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I am not sure that those are HOF numbers for Schultz which is why I can see him being inducted for his media work as opposed to his playing career, which was not a bad one by any measure.

Chris was also an East all-star in 91 Ravi; and IMO he deserves to be in the HOF based on his playing career - nine seasons where he was a top OT and helped his team to 2 GC appearances. And not sure if the Canadian Football HOF weighs NFL experience at all, but they should IMO; just like they started to recognize all-time Canadian University ball players = so the total of the guy's career. Schultz's NFL time adds to his lengthy CFL resume; just like an Eric Lapointe's all-time great Canadian college ball resume gets topped up by a fine CFL career as well, so the total of football playing experience counts.

paulwoods13
03-16-2023, 10:22 PM
Every year I get disappointed by errors and omissions. Schultz is definitely worthy of induction as a broadcaster, not sure he would be as a player altho Rocco Romano's induction means almost anything is possible. But why is DK Smith overlooked time after time? His career numbers are almost identical to David Williams', and IMO he was as or more feared than Williams. Also Reggie Pleasant and Carl Brazley. Both compare favourably to Crawford IMO.

paulwoods13
03-16-2023, 10:23 PM
Chris was also an East all-star in 91 Ravi; and IMO he deserves to be in the HOF based on his playing career - nine seasons where he was a top OT and helped his team to 2 GC appearances. And not sure if the Canadian Football HOF weighs NFL experience at all, but they should IMO; just like they started to recognize all-time Canadian University ball players = so the total of the guy's career. Schultz's NFL time adds to his lengthy CFL resume; just like an Eric Lapointe's all-time great Canadian college ball resume gets topped up by a fine CFL career as well, so the total of football playing experience counts.

I'm pretty sure Lapointe was inducted solely for his college accomplishments.

OV Argo
03-16-2023, 10:58 PM
I'm pretty sure Lapointe was inducted solely for his college accomplishments.


Yes; so was Chris Flynn; but I'm saying they should look at total college ball and all pro accomplishments; add Lapointe's all-time great CIS RB resume(including 2 time Hec winner) to his years of very under-rated CFL play (2 time GC Champ and led a GC game in rushing; twice the longest run from scrimmage in a CFL season; career 6+ yards/carry CFL average (quite rare)) = Canadian Football (not CFL) HOF worthy easily, IMO.

Agreed Brazley & Pleasant should be there.

Will
03-17-2023, 12:36 PM
Every year I get disappointed by errors and omissions. Schultz is definitely worthy of induction as a broadcaster, not sure he would be as a player altho Rocco Romano's induction means almost anything is possible. But why is DK Smith overlooked time after time? His career numbers are almost identical to David Williams', and IMO he was as or more feared than Williams. Also Reggie Pleasant and Carl Brazley. Both compare favourably to Crawford IMO.

While I acknowledge that this isn't the be all and end all, Crawford did have more career interceptions than either Pleasant or Brazley and was featured more on punt/kick returns than the others. He also got more nods as an all-CFL player.

Argo57
03-19-2023, 02:37 PM
Schultz should be in the HOF as a player, high level of play over an extended period of time (multiple All-Star and Grey Cup Champion).

paulwoods13
03-19-2023, 04:22 PM
Schultz should be in the HOF as a player, high level of play over an extended period of time (multiple All-Star and Grey Cup Champion).

I don't disagree, but the number of superb players who are not in the Hall -- and the handful of marginal guys who are in it -- have left me feeling it will never accurately reflect the best of the best.

Argo57
03-19-2023, 05:43 PM
I don't disagree, but the number of superb players who are not in the Hall -- and the handful of marginal guys who are in it -- have left me feeling it will never accurately reflect the best of the best.

Sadly a common problem with most sports.

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