Argofans

ArgoGabe22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:31 pm

Will wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:49 am

ArgoZ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 9:44 am

According to Dinwiddie, Kelly is doing all that is required. All the counselling, etc is all window dressing to appease the detractor's. All Kelly has to do is say the right things which isn't too hard. “Yeah, I acted inappropriately”. 9 games is a huge suspension and he served it. I can’t fathom any other reason he’s not reinstated despite the upcoming outcry’s.

And there will be an outcry. It's already started.

Seeing few fans who I have no idea if even Argos fans (does that matter? No but…) demand Kelly be 1) banned forever 2) cut. The outcry makes Kelly seem like he’s done some things such as Ben Rothlesburger or Ray Lewis, which I won’t mention specifically but you get the gist. No one still knows the actual full story to this and we will never know. I read it actually involved another player not AJO. Can these rumours be trusted? I doubt it.

ArgoZ wrote: I’ve heard all sorts of things. A RB being a major collaborator in the report and also coincidentally separating from his wife. Another QB having a sexual relationship with the trainer and hence the player Kelly was jealous about. While I have no proof and I guess then it’s all speculation, yet I’ve heard from multiple people. People love to tell secrets. I’ve even been DM’d. The trainer didn't deserve everything, however it’s seems she’s not completely innocent. Fraternizing with players will always be trouble and I’d imagine the main reason for the Argos wanting to part ways. With every piece of info that does come out, I’m actually impressed the Argos were so quiet. Pinball took all sorts of criticism for not saying anything, however not only was he protecting his players, but also the trainer too. There’s a reason the 87 page report is locked away tighter than the JFK files.

ArgoZ wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 7:43 pm

ArgoGabe22 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 1:31 pm

Will wrote: ↑Fri Jul 26, 2024 10:49 am

And there will be an outcry. It's already started.

Seeing few fans who I have no idea if even Argos fans (does that matter? No but…) demand Kelly be 1) banned forever 2) cut. The outcry makes Kelly seem like he’s done some things such as Ben Rothlesburger or Ray Lewis, which I won’t mention specifically but you get the gist. No one still knows the actual full story to this and we will never know. I read it actually involved another player not AJO. Can these rumours be trusted? I doubt it.

I’ve heard all sorts of things. A RB being a major collaborator in the report and also coincidentally separating from his wife. Another QB having a sexual relationship with the trainer and hence the player Kelly was jealous about. While I have no proof and I guess then it’s all speculation, yet I’ve heard from multiple people. People love to tell secrets. I’ve even been DM’d. The trainer didn't deserve everything, however it’s seems she’s not completely innocent. Fraternizing with players will always be trouble and I’d imagine the main reason for the Argos wanting to part ways. With every piece of info that does come out, I’m actually impressed the Argos were so quiet. Pinball took all sorts of criticism for not saying anything, however not only was he protecting his players, but also the trainer too. There’s a reason the 87 page report is locked away tighter than the JFK files.

IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:15 pm I know I'm late to this party but Angelo brings up a good point about Kelly's past.

Many people were quick to point out Kelly's past and suggest it is all the proof we need in determining he was a straight up predator to this woman. I can't emphasize enough how dangerous that attitude can be. With no proof whatsoever made public, that is exactly the kind of mob mentality that ruins lives for no reason.

Even though the media was doing him dirty in that scrum, I found it interesting Pinball said, almost in of defiance towards his interviewers, that the situation was "a dispute between two people."

It seems to me that the complexity and secrecy of this whole situation has to mean it is not a one-sided or cut and dry situation of good vs evil.

If Kelly did something terrible, we would know about it by now. There would be no reason to hide details of the report. Based on Chad's reputation, the league and the media made their decision before the report was finished.

AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:35 pm

IssuesMcgee wrote: ↑Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:15 pm I know I'm late to this party but Angelo brings up a good point about Kelly's past.

Many people were quick to point out Kelly's past and suggest it is all the proof we need in determining he was a straight up predator to this woman. I can't emphasize enough how dangerous that attitude can be. With no proof whatsoever made public, that is exactly the kind of mob mentality that ruins lives for no reason.

Even though the media was doing him dirty in that scrum, I found it interesting Pinball said, almost in of defiance towards his interviewers, that the situation was "a dispute between two people."

It seems to me that the complexity and secrecy of this whole situation has to mean it is not a one-sided or cut and dry situation of good vs evil.

If Kelly did something terrible, we would know about it by now. There would be no reason to hide details of the report. Based on Chad's reputation, the league and the media made their decision before the report was finished.

I will add that his past issues that may have taken away his NFL career, had nothing to do with any type of abuse or harassment towards women. Still, people are treating him as if he is a violent abuser of women, because it’s 2024. What a crock.

ArgoGabe22 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:00 am
And how many careers/lives potentially ruined over taking a woman’s side? Matt Araiza the punter, Shawn Oakman, Brian Banks. Not saying Kelly is 100% innocent but something doesn’t seem right with the trainer’s side at all. It’s 2024, not sure we can even question the women’s side of the story. But does sound like some cover up and Kelly was chosen as the fall guy.

Not a cover up from the organization but maybe more like a collaborated attack to get back at the team for wanting to not renew a trainer. I’ll sue you and bring up your star QB in the case and we have two players willing to speak about it. Whatever way you look at it, it doesn’t smell right.

AngeloV wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 8:17 am

ArgoGabe22 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 6:00 am
And how many careers/lives potentially ruined over taking a woman’s side? Matt Araiza the punter, Shawn Oakman, Brian Banks. Not saying Kelly is 100% innocent but something doesn’t seem right with the trainer’s side at all. It’s 2024, not sure we can even question the women’s side of the story. But does sound like some cover up and Kelly was chosen as the fall guy.

Not a cover up from the organization but maybe more like a collaborated attack to get back at the team for wanting to not renew a trainer. I’ll sue you and bring up your star QB in the case and we have two players willing to speak about it. Whatever way you look at it, it doesn’t smell right.

To be clear, I am not saying every accusation like this is phoney. I would hope every one is taken seriously.

ArgoGabe22 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 30, 2024 9:37 am
I am not saying that either but isn’t uncommon for a wrong verdict. If this was the medieval ages, fans would be calling for Kelly’s head with just the initial error from Rick Westhead being enough evidence. Now, if this was 100% false would the organization be willing to take it as far as they could without reaching a settlement?