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Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:12 am
by Scooter McCray
AngeloV wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:08 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:59 pm
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:38 pm
I have wondered the same. How many Canadians outside Toronto even know who Gradey Dick is, but yet he got national endorsement deals once he was drafted by the Raptors?
One major factor of course being that the Raptors have the entire Cdn market to themselves. Plus they appeal to a young, desirable demographic. Several Raptors have been in national ad campaigns in recent years.
They are also endorsing products of American companies. Not sure how much the marketing departments, even if situated in Canada, know about the CFL.
In the case of the Bell commercial that's not true though and Bell is making more money selling ad space for CFL games than Raptors games. And it's always been that way except for their championship run maybe. I am sure the ad execs in Toronto probably don't know who the Argos are, or what the CFL are, but somebody sure the hell does at Bell because they are about to broadcast one of the top 1, 2 or 3 largest TV events of the year in 6 days. This is just another example of people being really bad at their jobs.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:38 am
by Will
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:55 am
I largely agree with the ideas and sentiments throughout the thread so I'll just add one extra impression that I came away with: Jason Maas is good.
He had us completely Scoobied in the first half. Here's hoping that Coach Mace passes Coach Din his notes this week and Mass doesn't do the same favor for Osh.
There's a sense of fate here for me and it is just weird, man. 2007 Bombers won the East final against the Argos but lost starting QB Kevin Glenn after he was tackled by LB Kevin Eiben who is now the Argos Co-DC. Glenn was not available for the Grey Cup to play against their hated rivals the Riders. They had to start their inexperienced backup QB Ryan Dinwiddie, who now coaches the Argos against the Bombers who will be coached by the guy who was the 07 Argos team captain for that game, Mike O'Shea.
Hoping for a different result with the #2 QB having to start than in 2007, though.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:58 am
by bluto
Will wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:38 am
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:55 am
I largely agree with the ideas and sentiments throughout the thread so I'll just add one extra impression that I came away with: Jason Maas is good.
He had us completely Scoobied in the first half. Here's hoping that Coach Mace passes Coach Din his notes this week and Mass doesn't do the same favor for Osh.
There's a sense of fate here for me and it is just weird, man. 2007 Bombers won the East final against the Argos but lost starting QB Kevin Glenn after he was tackled by LB Kevin Eiben who is now the Argos Co-DC. Glenn was not available for the Grey Cup to play against their hated rivals the Riders. They had to start their inexperienced backup QB Ryan Dinwiddie, who now coaches the Argos against the Bombers who will be coached by the guy who was the 07 Argos team captain for that game, Mike O'Shea.
Hoping for a different result with the #2 QB having to start than in 2007, though.
You couldn't convince me that we neither have a more talented, deeper team than Winnipeg nor that Dinwiddie isn't a better coach than O'Shea.
We're in with a chance. Defence and STs need to show up big for us. #3 has a glorious opportunity to stick it to them too.
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Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:16 am
by ArgoGabe22
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:55 am
I largely agree with the ideas and sentiments throughout the thread so I'll just add one extra impression that I came away with: Jason Maas is good.
He had us completely Scoobied in the first half. Here's hoping that Coach Mace passes Coach Din his notes this week and Mass doesn't do the same favor for Osh.
There's a sense of fate here for me and it is just weird, man. 2007 Bombers won the East final against the Argos but lost starting QB Kevin Glenn after he was tackled by LB Kevin Eiben who is now the Argos Co-DC. Glenn was not available for the Grey Cup to play against their hated rivals the Riders. They had to start their inexperienced backup QB Ryan Dinwiddie, who now coaches the Argos against the Bombers who will be coached by the guy who was the 07 Argos team captain for that game, Mike O'Shea.
Not sure if fate or just a bunch of GOBS getting jobs.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am
by ArgoRavi
Will wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:38 am
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:55 am
I largely agree with the ideas and sentiments throughout the thread so I'll just add one extra impression that I came away with: Jason Maas is good.
He had us completely Scoobied in the first half. Here's hoping that Coach Mace passes Coach Din his notes this week and Mass doesn't do the same favor for Osh.
There's a sense of fate here for me and it is just weird, man. 2007 Bombers won the East final against the Argos but lost starting QB Kevin Glenn after he was tackled by LB Kevin Eiben who is now the Argos Co-DC. Glenn was not available for the Grey Cup to play against their hated rivals the Riders. They had to start their inexperienced backup QB Ryan Dinwiddie, who now coaches the Argos against the Bombers who will be coached by the guy who was the 07 Argos team captain for that game, Mike O'Shea.
Hoping for a different result with the #2 QB having to start than in 2007, though.
Ryan Dinwiddie was a raw rookie in 2007 who only threw 25 passes that year. The Grey Cup was his first start as a pro. Arbuckle has substantially more experience and even took some snaps in the 2018 Grey Cup.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:30 pm
by Will
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:55 am
Will wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:38 am
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:55 am
I largely agree with the ideas and sentiments throughout the thread so I'll just add one extra impression that I came away with: Jason Maas is good.
He had us completely Scoobied in the first half. Here's hoping that Coach Mace passes Coach Din his notes this week and Mass doesn't do the same favor for Osh.
There's a sense of fate here for me and it is just weird, man. 2007 Bombers won the East final against the Argos but lost starting QB Kevin Glenn after he was tackled by LB Kevin Eiben who is now the Argos Co-DC. Glenn was not available for the Grey Cup to play against their hated rivals the Riders. They had to start their inexperienced backup QB Ryan Dinwiddie, who now coaches the Argos against the Bombers who will be coached by the guy who was the 07 Argos team captain for that game, Mike O'Shea.
Hoping for a different result with the #2 QB having to start than in 2007, though.
Ryan Dinwiddie was a raw rookie in 2007 who only threw 25 passes that year. The Grey Cup was his first start as a pro. Arbuckle has substantially more experience and even took some snaps in the 2018 Grey Cup.
Which makes the comparison not quite apples to oranges.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
by bluto
Apropos:
Who has the best Thread-Starting-Karma for the GC thread yet to be made.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:47 pm
by Will
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
Apropos:
Who has the best Thread-Starting-Karma for the GC thread yet to be made.
Scooter McCray started both playoff threads so it is him.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:47 pm
by bluto
Will wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:47 pm
bluto wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 1:24 pm
Apropos:
Who has the best Thread-Starting-Karma for the GC thread yet to be made.
Scooter McCray started both playoff threads so it is him.
You heard the man, Scooter. Get to it.
Re: East Final Thread - Toronto Argonauts @ Montreal Alouettes
Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:32 pm
by Scooter McCray
Scooter McCray wrote: ↑Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:12 am
AngeloV wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:08 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 10, 2024 7:59 pm
One major factor of course being that the Raptors have the entire Cdn market to themselves. Plus they appeal to a young, desirable demographic. Several Raptors have been in national ad campaigns in recent years.
They are also endorsing products of American companies. Not sure how much the marketing departments, even if situated in Canada, know about the CFL.
In the case of the Bell commercial that's not true though and Bell is making more money selling ad space for CFL games than Raptors games. And it's always been that way except for their championship run maybe. I am sure the ad execs in Toronto probably don't know who the Argos are, or what the CFL are, but somebody sure the hell does at Bell because they are about to broadcast one of the top 1, 2 or 3 largest TV events of the year in 6 days. This is just another example of people being really bad at their jobs.
1.71 Million watched East Final up from 1.35 Million last year. The Leafs Habs game was 1.4 Million. Raptors average 156,000. WHY ARE THEIR PLAYERS ON NATIONAL ADS? AND NOT CFL PLAYERS? SOMEBODY SHOULD LOSE THEIR JOB OVER THIS.