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Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 6:07 pm
by Don_from_Dryden
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 12:40 pm I can't see BLM wanting to end his playing career being carted off the field.
Unfortunately, that is the way a lot of great players go.

It could make for a good video montage of all the players ever having to do so if someone had the skills to put it together.

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 7:46 pm
by AngeloV
OV Argo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 5:22 pm
AngeloV wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 4:47 pm
OV Argo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 1:22 pm

I wonder WTF Nathan Rourke was thinking last game in carrying the ball 5 times for 77 yards and a TD, in leading his Lions to a win over the team with the best record in the league? Somebody in the know should tell him you can get hurt playing football. :roll: :lol:
Nathan Rourke hasn't been injured every year of his career on runs.
Vernon Adams was also injured on a play in which he ran. As was Chad Kelly. But hey, you know better than the "clueless" ones.

Watch any NFL? Ever heard of Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts or Drake Maye or Justin Herbert or Caleb Williams? How bout young Giants QB Jaxson Dart who the other night had 11 runs for 54 yards to lead his team to an opening game win over the Cowboys ?

Have you sent all NFL HCs and GMs a memo to stop this foolishness of having mobile QBs affect games with their scrambling and key runs to win games ? I'm sure they would pay heed to a QB expert like yourself. :roll:

And BTW a whole slew of CFL QBs in the past number of years have been injured by getting smacked or crushed sitting in the pocket in a same old CFL look offence while trying to pass; but who cares about that evidence eh?
How many games did Lamar Jackson miss last year? And Allen was really banged up all year. You are making my argument for me. And Dart already has had 2 concussions in less than a full year. Maybe you don’t care if a WB’s career is cut short by concussion. Good for you.

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2026 9:43 pm
by OV Argo
So, in conclusion, i guess: a mobile, big run threat QB has no place in pro football; more a liability than a nice thing for an offence to have in it's tool-box ???

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:59 am
by AngeloV
OV Argo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 9:43 pm So, in conclusion, i guess: a mobile, big run threat QB has no place in pro football; more a liability than a nice thing for an offence to have in it's tool-box ???
No. In conclusion, a QB should be a pass first position. What you seem to be wanting is lots of designed QB runs. Again, Ford has been injured every year in his career thus far on plays in which he was running with the ball. What good is a QB that misses a lot of games every year due to injury?

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 11:28 am
by OV Argo
AngeloV wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:59 am
OV Argo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 9:43 pm So, in conclusion, i guess: a mobile, big run threat QB has no place in pro football; more a liability than a nice thing for an offence to have in it's tool-box ???
No. In conclusion, a QB should be a pass first position. What you seem to be wanting is lots of designed QB runs. Again, Ford has been injured every year in his career thus far on plays in which he was running with the ball. What good is a QB that misses a lot of games every year due to injury?
ALL of the all-time great mobile / run threat QBs - Russ Jackson, Doug Flutie, Damon Allen, Tracy Ham - passed way more than they ran; so what is your point? - that QBs who run might get injured? So might immobile QBs who can only be sitting ducks in the pocket.

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 1:33 pm
by AngeloV
OV Argo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 11:28 am
AngeloV wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 10:59 am
OV Argo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 15, 2026 9:43 pm So, in conclusion, i guess: a mobile, big run threat QB has no place in pro football; more a liability than a nice thing for an offence to have in it's tool-box ???
No. In conclusion, a QB should be a pass first position. What you seem to be wanting is lots of designed QB runs. Again, Ford has been injured every year in his career thus far on plays in which he was running with the ball. What good is a QB that misses a lot of games every year due to injury?
ALL of the all-time great mobile / run threat QBs - Russ Jackson, Doug Flutie, Damon Allen, Tracy Ham - passed way more than they ran; so what is your point? - that QBs who run might get injured? So might immobile QBs who can only be sitting ducks in the pocket.
Stop living in the past. Your are bringing up players that played 30-60 years ago. The game has changed, and so has how concussions are perceived. Again, I was specifically talking about Ford, who has been injured running the ball every season he has been in the league. If you can't comprehend of acknowledge that, there is no use carrying on.

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 3:47 pm
by OV Argo
Zach Collaros - another run threat/ mobile QB (oops, he is not that) who has suffered way worse (likely) concussion issues vs. Ford; never mind; you can't grasp the point of how a run threat/ mobile QB can add so much to a football offence - some ultra modern CFL GOB told you so likely. :roll:

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 4:41 pm
by Don_from_Dryden
OV Argo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 3:47 pm Zach Collaros - another run threat/ mobile QB (oops, he is not that) who has suffered way worse (likely) concussion issues vs. Ford; never mind; you can't grasp the point of how a run threat/ mobile QB can add so much to a football offence - some ultra modern CFL GOB told you so likely. :roll:
Zach gets more blame than he deserves. He's playing behind a shaky Oline with a ragtag group of receivers. Stanley Bryant is 40. Tui Eli is a 6 year vet that still can't start. Rookie American center. 37 year old Neufeld is their best lineman. Still can't figure out how they beat Montreal.

Bombers never do say how serious the issue is which could be it right there, but my feeling was when they 6 gamed him earlier they were hoping to give him a rest and have Dru Brown step in. That kinda worked but not really because the rest of the team is not that solid of a unit. Demski is going to be 34. Gavin Cobb is the starting wideout. I picked them to miss the playoffs but it looks like Calgary will save them from that.

I think Collaros could still be a nice addition in free agency be it in a depth role / transition to coaching scenario. Might even see some good football from him this year yet as well. While there is still lots to be determined Wpg crossing over to face the Argos could well be the way it plays out. Alternatively the Riders if not Wpg.

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 8:03 pm
by AngeloV
OV Argo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 3:47 pm Zach Collaros - another run threat/ mobile QB (oops, he is not that) who has suffered way worse (likely) concussion issues vs. Ford; never mind; you can't grasp the point of how a run threat/ mobile QB can add so much to a football offence - some ultra modern CFL GOB told you so likely. :roll:
And how did his biggest injury in which he missed the most time happen? A cheap shot yes, but he was running. You really have no clue sometimes.

Re: Hamilton Tiger-Cats

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2026 8:05 pm
by AngeloV
Don_from_Dryden wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2026 4:41 pm

Zach gets more blame than he deserves. He's playing behind a shaky Oline with a ragtag group of receivers. Stanley Bryant is 40. Tui Eli is a 6 year vet that still can't start. Rookie American center. 37 year old Neufeld is their best lineman. Still can't figure out how they beat Montreal.

Bombers never do say how serious the issue is which could be it right there, but my feeling was when they 6 gamed him earlier they were hoping to give him a rest and have Dru Brown step in. That kinda worked but not really because the rest of the team is not that solid of a unit. Demski is going to be 34. Gavin Cobb is the starting wideout. I picked them to miss the playoffs but it looks like Calgary will save them from that.

I think Collaros could still be a nice addition in free agency be it in a depth role / transition to coaching scenario. Might even see some good football from him this year yet as well. While there is still lots to be determined Wpg crossing over to face the Argos could well be the way it plays out. Alternatively the Riders if not Wpg.
Agree with all of this.