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Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:34 pm
by gilthethrill
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:27 am In his last five quarters of action, Dru Brown has thrown for about 700 yards. The defence better be ready.
Brown is mediocre at best. Toss out the 4th quarter vs the Argos and Brown lights it up vs a 7 win Hamilton team. Yawn.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:58 pm
by OV Argo
gilthethrill wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 3:34 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:27 am In his last five quarters of action, Dru Brown has thrown for about 700 yards. The defence better be ready.
Brown is mediocre at best. Toss out the 4th quarter vs the Argos and Brown lights it up vs a 7 win Hamilton team. Yawn.
I basically agree; but Brown has been a good game manager in Condell's simpleton 5 pack predictable offence - making mostly accurate throws to some good receiver talent, but almost all short stuff. I wonder how he would do if he was let loose to air-out deep balls like Kelly does? Another thing - Brown has limited mobility to escape pass rush pressure and is next to no run threat.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:33 pm
by paulwoods13
Sorry, guys, but while he's no all-star (yet), IMO Brown is a pretty formidable QB. Dismissing him as mediocre could come back to haunt. Sure, he piled up big yards in garbage time against Argos and over a full game against Hamilton -- but he still hit on most of his throws, including a number of deep shots, and he made the right reads most of the time. I'm expecting this game to be close, and Brown to be a tough out.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:46 pm
by ArgoRavi
For the most part, Brown hasn't blown me away this year but he has had a few very good games and I have come to realize that a nagging ankle injury - which he is finally recovered from - hampered his play for a while. He has looked much better since returning to the lineup two weeks ago. I am sure that the Argos aren't underestimating him.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm
by ArgoRavi
The Argos and Ottawa football teams have only played 3 times in the playoffs since 1970. How can that be? Those three occasions were 1977 in Ottawa and 1982 and 1990 in Toronto. Over the past 20 years that Ottawa has had a football team, the Argos haven't met them in the postseason until now. Conversely, the Argos have played the Bombers in the playoffs no fewer than 7 times since 1987. I am looking forward to this rare event on Saturday.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:29 pm
by OV Argo
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm The Argos and Ottawa football teams have only played 3 times in the playoffs since 1970. How can that be? Those three occasions were 1977 in Ottawa and 1982 and 1990 in Toronto. Over the past 20 years that Ottawa has had a football team, the Argos haven't met them in the postseason until now. Conversely, the Argos have played the Bombers in the playoffs no fewer than 7 times since 1987. I am looking forward to this rare event on Saturday.
I'm gonna have to check my old CFL ticket stub collection to see if I went to that 77 game at Lansdowne (memory just very foggy on some things)

Rough Riders were coming off a GC win season and were led by Tom Clements at QB; and they had a big powerful rookie fullback - Mike Murphy - who had over 800 rushing yards + 400 receiving yards for a 1300 + yards from scrimmage season - by a fullback ! And their leading receiver was all-time great Tony Gabriel.

The Argos had Chuck Ealey at QB most of that season; and curiously as well, their leaders in yardage were big fullback Neil Lumsden and tight end Peter Muller in receiving.

The GOB mind boggles: imagine, Canadians at fullback and tight end being the leaders on a CFL offence. How the times have changed.

:roll: ;) :idea:

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:35 pm
by ArgoRavi
OV Argo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:29 pm
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm The Argos and Ottawa football teams have only played 3 times in the playoffs since 1970. How can that be? Those three occasions were 1977 in Ottawa and 1982 and 1990 in Toronto. Over the past 20 years that Ottawa has had a football team, the Argos haven't met them in the postseason until now. Conversely, the Argos have played the Bombers in the playoffs no fewer than 7 times since 1987. I am looking forward to this rare event on Saturday.
I'm gonna have to check my old CFL ticket stub collection to see if I went to that 77 game at Lansdowne (memory just very foggy on some things)

Rough Riders were coming off a GC win season and were led by Tom Clements at QB; and they had a big powerful rookie fullback - Mike Murphy - who had over 800 rushing yards + 400 receiving yards for a 1300 + yards from scrimmage season - by a fullback ! And their leading receiver was all-time great Tony Gabriel.

The Argos had Chuck Ealey at QB most of that season; and curiously as well, their leaders in yardage were big fullback Neil Lumsden and tight end Peter Muller in receiving.

The GOB mind boggles: imagine, Canadians at fullback and tight end being the leaders on a CFL offence. How the times have changed.

:roll: ;) :idea:
I remember watching that game, as a soon-to-be 8 year-old. I believe that Chuck Ealey and Clint Longley rotated at QB - something that Leo Cahill was partial to. I recall that the Argos were down by quite a bit but then staged a late 4th quarter comeback and had the chance to win the game in the final minute, scrimmaging inside the Ottawa 5 yard line. Then in typical Argos fashion for that era, Chuck Ealey dropped back to pass, was hit by Mike Fanucci, and fumbled the ball. It was heartbreaking.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 7:11 pm
by TrueBlueGuy
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:33 pm Sorry, guys, but while he's no all-star (yet), IMO Brown is a pretty formidable QB. Dismissing him as mediocre could come back to haunt. Sure, he piled up big yards in garbage time against Argos and over a full game against Hamilton -- but he still hit on most of his throws, including a number of deep shots, and he made the right reads most of the time. I'm expecting this game to be close, and Brown to be a tough out.
Also watch out if Brown struggles, and Crum goes in, Crum has superior scrambling ability IMO and his style is a major change from Brown's.
Serious defensive adjustment would be required by the Argos. Can they respond (Kevin E?) Will they be ready?
And for sure our Special Teams better show us a significant improvement!
This is going to be a good one I think, teams were separated by just 1 point on the season.
no walk-over here, like the 2023 East Final.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:04 pm
by Scooter McCray
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:35 pm
OV Argo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 6:29 pm
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 5:48 pm The Argos and Ottawa football teams have only played 3 times in the playoffs since 1970. How can that be? Those three occasions were 1977 in Ottawa and 1982 and 1990 in Toronto. Over the past 20 years that Ottawa has had a football team, the Argos haven't met them in the postseason until now. Conversely, the Argos have played the Bombers in the playoffs no fewer than 7 times since 1987. I am looking forward to this rare event on Saturday.
I'm gonna have to check my old CFL ticket stub collection to see if I went to that 77 game at Lansdowne (memory just very foggy on some things)

Rough Riders were coming off a GC win season and were led by Tom Clements at QB; and they had a big powerful rookie fullback - Mike Murphy - who had over 800 rushing yards + 400 receiving yards for a 1300 + yards from scrimmage season - by a fullback ! And their leading receiver was all-time great Tony Gabriel.

The Argos had Chuck Ealey at QB most of that season; and curiously as well, their leaders in yardage were big fullback Neil Lumsden and tight end Peter Muller in receiving.

The GOB mind boggles: imagine, Canadians at fullback and tight end being the leaders on a CFL offence. How the times have changed.

:roll: ;) :idea:
I remember watching that game, as a soon-to-be 8 year-old. I believe that Chuck Ealey and Clint Longley rotated at QB - something that Leo Cahill was partial to. I recall that the Argos were down by quite a bit but then staged a late 4th quarter comeback and had the chance to win the game in the final minute, scrimmaging inside the Ottawa 5 yard line. Then in typical Argos fashion for that era, Chuck Ealey dropped back to pass, was hit by Mike Fanucci, and fumbled the ball. It was heartbreaking.
I was at that game, 10 years old with my father. Leo was furious with the Ottawa crowd who sang him off the field chanting Good Night Leo. I was a Rough Rider fan to the core back then.

Re: East Semi Final Thread: Ottawa Redblacks @ Toronto Argonauts

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 8:16 pm
by AngeloV
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2024 4:33 pm Sorry, guys, but while he's no all-star (yet), IMO Brown is a pretty formidable QB. Dismissing him as mediocre could come back to haunt.
Though I agree with you that Brown is much better than mediocre, I fail to see how a fan on a message board’s comment can come back to haunt anyone. If Brown is reading this message board, he is in big trouble.