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Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:04 am
by AngeloV
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:30 am
AngeloV wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:30 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 4:57 pm
My question was not about which receiver he would replace -- they will all, including Ungerer, see lots of playing time. It's about which INT would sit to add an extra INT on offence.
They had dressed Herslow the previous couple of games even with both Daniels and Coxie starting. I see no reason why this would change. They are starting 8 Canadians anyway, so no reason why Herslow can’t rotate with any of the other receivers.
Right, but an INT who dressed on Saturday would have to come out of the lineup. Hence my question: which one? The only reason they were able to dress (and start) Hood on Saturday was because Coxie sat. Once he goes back in, are they going to take out Hood and put Edouard back in at CB? (I don't think so.) Or sit either Darkangelo or Casey, both of whom play reasonably significant roles? Surely I'm not the only person fascinated by roster machinations, and these types of difficult decisions.
As much as I like both, it would likely be Casey or Darkangelo (most likely Casey) coming out. With Cassar healthy now, that to me would be the logical move.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 10:07 am
by RB957
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 6:30 am
AngeloV wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:30 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 4:57 pm
My question was not about which receiver he would replace -- they will all, including Ungerer, see lots of playing time. It's about which INT would sit to add an extra INT on offence.
They had dressed Herslow the previous couple of games even with both Daniels and Coxie starting. I see no reason why this would change. They are starting 8 Canadians anyway, so no reason why Herslow can’t rotate with any of the other receivers.
Right, but an INT who dressed on Saturday would have to come out of the lineup. Hence my question: which one? The only reason they were able to dress (and start) Hood on Saturday was because Coxie sat. Once he goes back in, are they going to take out Hood and put Edouard back in at CB? (I don't think so.) Or sit either Darkangelo or Casey, both of whom play reasonably significant roles?
Surely I'm not the only person fascinated by roster machinations, and these types of difficult decisions.
No, but you are way more aware about them then us mere mortals, lol.
Seriously, there is no other professional sports league that I know of that demands this kind of thinking. And I guess because of that, we have had the chance to see great Canadian football players develop and be able to play at the pro level. Somewhat similar to the government imposing Canadian content rules for music radio. "Elbows up" thinking way before its time.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:35 pm
by paulwoods13
AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:04 amAs much as I like both, it would likely be Casey or Darkangelo (most likely Casey) coming out. With Cassar healthy now, that to me would be the logical move.
The fact that Casey played quite a few snaps on defence last week, and I don't think Darkangelo played any, might suggest Casey is safer from being healthy-scratched. On the other hand, the special teams finally had a decent game (for the most part), so taking Darkangelo off might not be the best move at this time. Tough decision either way. Hopefully it's a decision the coaches do have to make make this week, because that would mean Coxie is returning to the lineup.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:50 pm
by AngeloV
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:35 pm
AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:04 amAs much as I like both, it would likely be Casey or Darkangelo (most likely Casey) coming out. With Cassar healthy now, that to me would be the logical move.
The fact that Casey played quite a few snaps on defence last week, and I don't think Darkangelo played any, might suggest Casey is safer from being healthy-scratched. On the other hand, the special teams finally had a decent game (for the most part), so taking Darkangelo off might not be the best move at this time. Tough decision either way. Hopefully it's a decision the coaches do have to make make this week, because that would mean Coxie is returning to the lineup.
I was basing it on Darkangelo's ST play and the fact he has played both in the middle and weak side in the past. I find him to be more valuable.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:54 pm
by ArgoRavi
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:35 pm
AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:04 amAs much as I like both, it would likely be Casey or Darkangelo (most likely Casey) coming out. With Cassar healthy now, that to me would be the logical move.
The fact that Casey played quite a few snaps on defence last week, and I don't think Darkangelo played any, might suggest Casey is safer from being healthy-scratched. On the other hand, the special teams finally had a decent game (for the most part), so taking Darkangelo off might not be the best move at this time. Tough decision either way. Hopefully it's a decision the coaches do have to make make this week, because that would mean Coxie is returning to the lineup.
If Polk soon makes his way back to the Argos (a big "if"), how do the Argos make room for him in the lineup?
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:55 pm
by paulwoods13
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:54 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:35 pm
AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:04 amAs much as I like both, it would likely be Casey or Darkangelo (most likely Casey) coming out. With Cassar healthy now, that to me would be the logical move.
The fact that Casey played quite a few snaps on defence last week, and I don't think Darkangelo played any, might suggest Casey is safer from being healthy-scratched. On the other hand, the special teams finally had a decent game (for the most part), so taking Darkangelo off might not be the best move at this time. Tough decision either way. Hopefully it's a decision the coaches do have to make make this week, because that would mean Coxie is returning to the lineup.
If Polk soon makes his way back to the Argos (a big "if"), how do the Argos make room for him in the lineup?
IMO it would not be possible to dress Daniels, Coxie, Herslow and Polk, unless a NAT who can start at an INT position suddenly appears out of thin air. Maybe Hunter moves back in at LT altho I would like to leave Kemp alone for a while. Or maybe Vilain appears and can instantly start. But there ain't no other way, IMO.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 1:50 pm
by ARGOFanIan
Joseph Barnes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 24, 2025 9:30 am
Great crowd and atmosphere at the stadium yesterday, and most stayed right to the end. Other than opening night in 2016, I don’t recall a bigger crowd for a regular season game. Anyone know the attendance?
Was great atmosphere in the upper east side... and the stadium in general... looks so much better with people up there... Hopefully we can keep building on this really good day. 2 years in a row upper east side was open for regular season game. Nice to see panel at the game. lots of negativity likely to come our way but not on this day.
Arbuckle really played amazing ... I sometimes am amazed how good W. McManis is.... Ungerer seems to fly under the radar but seems to make some good catches IMO.
Go ARRGOS !!!
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:30 pm
by ArgoRavi
AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:50 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:35 pm
AngeloV wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 9:04 amAs much as I like both, it would likely be Casey or Darkangelo (most likely Casey) coming out. With Cassar healthy now, that to me would be the logical move.
The fact that Casey played quite a few snaps on defence last week, and I don't think Darkangelo played any, might suggest Casey is safer from being healthy-scratched. On the other hand, the special teams finally had a decent game (for the most part), so taking Darkangelo off might not be the best move at this time. Tough decision either way. Hopefully it's a decision the coaches do have to make make this week, because that would mean Coxie is returning to the lineup.
I was basing it on Darkangelo's ST play and the fact he has played both in the middle and weak side in the past. I find him to be more valuable.
For what it's worth, Darkangelo was the Argos' special teams player of the week for his performance against BC.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:05 am
by Scooter McCray
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:55 pm
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:54 pm
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 2:35 pm
The fact that Casey played quite a few snaps on defence last week, and I don't think Darkangelo played any, might suggest Casey is safer from being healthy-scratched. On the other hand, the special teams finally had a decent game (for the most part), so taking Darkangelo off might not be the best move at this time. Tough decision either way. Hopefully it's a decision the coaches do have to make make this week, because that would mean Coxie is returning to the lineup.
If Polk soon makes his way back to the Argos (a big "if"), how do the Argos make room for him in the lineup?
IMO it would not be possible to dress Daniels, Coxie, Herslow and Polk, unless a NAT who can start at an INT position suddenly appears out of thin air. Maybe Hunter moves back in at LT altho I would like to leave Kemp alone for a while. Or maybe Vilain appears and can instantly start. But there ain't no other way, IMO.
3DOWNNATION.COM is reporting that Coxie has been put on the 6 game IL. So the team for now does not need to worry about its roster. Too bad. Coxie & Polk on field together opens the passing game right up for Arbuckle or Kelly. They would finally be able to outscore all opposition. Have to wait for playoffs to see it.
Re: Game Thread: BC Lions @ Toronto Argonauts - August 23, 2025
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:06 am
by Will
Scooter McCray wrote: ↑Wed Aug 27, 2025 10:05 am
paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 7:55 pm
ArgoRavi wrote: ↑Mon Aug 25, 2025 4:54 pm
If Polk soon makes his way back to the Argos (a big "if"), how do the Argos make room for him in the lineup?
IMO it would not be possible to dress Daniels, Coxie, Herslow and Polk, unless a NAT who can start at an INT position suddenly appears out of thin air. Maybe Hunter moves back in at LT altho I would like to leave Kemp alone for a while. Or maybe Vilain appears and can instantly start. But there ain't no other way, IMO.
3DOWNNATION.COM is reporting that Coxie has been put on the 6 game IL. So the team for now does not need to worry about its roster. Too bad. Coxie & Polk on field together opens the passing game right up for Arbuckle or Kelly. They would finally be able to outscore all opposition. Have to wait for playoffs to see it.
I noticed that yesterday. Seems like nobody really had prior to Saturday.