Game Thread: Edmonton Elks @ Toronto Argonauts - September 13, 2025

[ARGO57]

Refs were not kind to the Argos for the most part today, much like the road game in Edmonton. Huge shout out to Eiben and Shivers. Yes, the D gave up 30 points, but the turnovers didn't help. Rankin was basically invisible today. Dozier appears to be a great acquisition at SAM.
Pretty sure Arbuckle was hurt in the short yardage play where Metchie left the game. I thought it was a foot issue. This should finally be enough to get Kelly back in the lineup.
Good to see Dinwiddie get the last laugh after putting up with Maxie yipping all game. He has done nothing with his high priced D Line this year.

Bring on Montreal!

Dinwiddie is not only the best head coach in the league but also the most entertaining: https://3downnation.com/2025/09/13/thos ... -building/

By the way, did Robbie Smith play today?

I respect the fact Dinwiddie doesn’t put up with a lot of bullshit from anyone.
The Elks thought raiding the Argonauts roster was their ticket to the Grey Cup, glad to see them sucking wind again this season.

[gilthethrill]

Refs were not kind to the Argos for the most part today, much like the road game in Edmonton. Huge shout out to Eiben and Shivers. Yes, the D gave up 30 points, but the turnovers didn't help. Rankin was basically invisible today. Dozier appears to be a great acquisition at SAM.
Pretty sure Arbuckle was hurt in the short yardage play where Metchie left the game. I thought it was a foot issue. This should finally be enough to get Kelly back in the lineup.
Good to see Dinwiddie get the last laugh after putting up with Maxie yipping all game. He has done nothing with his high priced D Line this year.

Bring on Montreal!

Dinwiddie is not only the best head coach in the league but also the most entertaining: https://3downnation.com/2025/09/13/thos ... -building/

By the way, did Robbie Smith play today?

Smith is on the 6 game injured list.

[OV Argo]

IF Kelly is even close to back to previous form, he should be able to do serious damage with this very deep & talented Argo receiving corps.

D needs to step-up a bit better so that all games are not shoot-outs; nice job limiting Rankin today though.

[paulwoods13]

At one point it appeared Arbuckle was talking to a therapist about his calf, not his foot. They didn't put any tape on the ankle. Hopefully it's not serious, but it will be shocking if Kelly doesn't start on Friday.

[IssuesMcgee]

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[AngeloV]

Wow.
Arbuckle looked like he couldn’t handle the pressure of Kelly’s possible return and tried to force a lot of throws that weren’t there today. Not sure when the last time a team threw 4 picks won a game. Probably in the 70’s when QB’s threw more INT’s than TD’s.
I thought the defence was great today. 20 of the 30 points came off picks and short fields.
I love what Slywka has done in this his rookie year, but I think Braxton needs to stay at safety.
Fantastic job stopping Rankin today. Take away his 15 yard run, and he was 11 for 12. It doesn’t get any better than that.


Kelly has to start next week regardless of Arbucke’s health. But an injury make it a convenient choice.

[ArgoRavi]

Wow.
Arbuckle looked like he couldn’t handle the pressure of Kelly’s possible return and tried to force a lot of throws that weren’t there today. Not sure when the last time a team threw 4 picks won a game. Probably in the 70’s when QB’s threw more INT’s than TD’s.
I thought the defence was great today. 20 of the 30 points came off picks and short fields.
I love what Slywka has done in this his rookie year, but I think Braxton needs to stay at safety.
Fantastic job stopping Rankin today. Take away his 15 yard run, and he was 11 for 12. It doesn’t get any better than that.


Kelly has to start next week regardless of Arbucke’s health. But an injury make it a convenient choice.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tom Clements threw 4 INTs in a game and still won in the 1980s.

Kelly has to be healthier than Arbuckle at this point which should make the decision an easy one.

With Montreal on the verge of beating the Riders tonight, that's another must-win for the Argos on Friday.

[TICATS SUCK !]

Talk about drama! Obviously, the Argos had no business winning this game. The playoffs are a definite possibility at this point. I want to talk about RD. After four years of winning football, I've resisted the temptation to question his in game decision making. Let's start with the turnovers on downs. Two times we were in scoring territory with a yard to go. The first time, the handoff was roughly five yards behind the line of scrimmage. The second time, we again handed the ball off well behind the line of scrimmage (almost as far back as the first attempt). I don't understand the need, with a yard off the ball, to start the run so deep in your backfield on short yardage. Something needs to be done to improve our efficiency in these situations. Now to the challenge. This particular challenge, on the spot of the ball, which was surrounded by a mass of humanity, is a long shot at best. You might even say it was a waste of a challenge. Later in the game, there were two instances where we were unable to challenge a possible PI call, especially the Herslow one. As for his conduct at the game's conclusion, I'm not giving him a free pass. According to 3DN, he had an issue with Maxie and possibly Jordan Williams. Fine, take up with them if you want. Instead, he decided to make dramatic gestures right by the Edmonton bench, with the predictable scuffle ensuing. To me, he once again allowed his emotions to to get the best of him, embarrassing himself and the Argonauts organization. Also in the 3DN article, RD called the Elks a pretender (maybe this is one of his favourite words), who "like to talk a big game and don't show up on game day." He added "those guys can enjoy the off season." If the Elks, at 5-8 are a pretender, what does that make the Argos with the same record? As for the offseason, he shouldn't be thumbing his nose down at the Elks when his own team is in a similar situation as far a playoff berth goes. I don't think running your mouth off after being so fortunate to come up victorious goes over very well.

[ArgoRavi]

Talk about drama! Obviously, the Argos had no business winning this game. The playoffs are a definite possibility at this point. I want to talk about RD. After four years of winning football, I've resisted the temptation to question his in game decision making. Let's start with the turnovers on downs. Two times we were in scoring territory with a yard to go. The first time, the handoff was roughly five yards behind the line of scrimmage. The second time, we again handed the ball off well behind the line of scrimmage (almost as far back as the first attempt). I don't understand the need, with a yard off the ball, to start the run so deep in your backfield on short yardage. Something needs to be done to improve our efficiency in these situations. Now to the challenge. This particular challenge, on the spot of the ball, which was surrounded by a mass of humanity, is a long shot at best. You might even say it was a waste of a challenge. Later in the game, there were two instances where we were unable to challenge a possible PI call, especially the Herslow one. As for his conduct at the game's conclusion, I'm not giving him a free pass. According to 3DN, he had an issue with Maxie and possibly Jordan Williams. Fine, take up with them if you want. Instead, he decided to make dramatic gestures right by the Edmonton bench, with the predictable scuffle ensuing. To me, he once again allowed his emotions to to get the best of him, embarrassing himself and the Argonauts organization. Also in the 3DN article, RD called the Elks a pretender (maybe this is one of his favourite words), who "like to talk a big game and don't show up on game day." He added "those guys can enjoy the off season." If the Elks, at 5-8 are a pretender, what does that make the Argos with the same record? As for the offseason, he shouldn't be thumbing his nose down at the Elks when his own team is in a similar situation as far a playoff berth goes. I don't think running your mouth off after being so fortunate to come up victorious goes over very well.

Dinwiddie's career record speaks for itself. On the two gambles, the issue was the blocking and execution rather than the playcalling IMO. You could blame him on the challenge but I understand why he did challenge there. He wasn't calling the Elks as a team a "pretender"; he was saying that in reference to Jordan Williams.

Football is an emotional game. There was apparently a lot of chirping going on, especially by the Elks. I don't have a problem with Dinwiddie and Doege giving it right back to them at game's end.

[TICATS SUCK !]

Talk about drama! Obviously, the Argos had no business winning this game. The playoffs are a definite possibility at this point. I want to talk about RD. After four years of winning football, I've resisted the temptation to question his in game decision making. Let's start with the turnovers on downs. Two times we were in scoring territory with a yard to go. The first time, the handoff was roughly five yards behind the line of scrimmage. The second time, we again handed the ball off well behind the line of scrimmage (almost as far back as the first attempt). I don't understand the need, with a yard off the ball, to start the run so deep in your backfield on short yardage. Something needs to be done to improve our efficiency in these situations. Now to the challenge. This particular challenge, on the spot of the ball, which was surrounded by a mass of humanity, is a long shot at best. You might even say it was a waste of a challenge. Later in the game, there were two instances where we were unable to challenge a possible PI call, especially the Herslow one. As for his conduct at the game's conclusion, I'm not giving him a free pass. According to 3DN, he had an issue with Maxie and possibly Jordan Williams. Fine, take up with them if you want. Instead, he decided to make dramatic gestures right by the Edmonton bench, with the predictable scuffle ensuing. To me, he once again allowed his emotions to to get the best of him, embarrassing himself and the Argonauts organization. Also in the 3DN article, RD called the Elks a pretender (maybe this is one of his favourite words), who "like to talk a big game and don't show up on game day." He added "those guys can enjoy the off season." If the Elks, at 5-8 are a pretender, what does that make the Argos with the same record? As for the offseason, he shouldn't be thumbing his nose down at the Elks when his own team is in a similar situation as far a playoff berth goes. I don't think running your mouth off after being so fortunate to come up victorious goes over very well.

Dinwiddie's career record speaks for itself. On the two gambles, the issue was the blocking and execution rather than the playcalling IMO. You could blame him on the challenge but I understand why he did challenge there. He wasn't calling the Elks as a team a "pretender"; he was saying that in reference to Jordan Williams.

Football is an emotional game. There was apparently a lot of chirping going on, especially by the Elks. I don't have a problem with Dinwiddie and Doege giving it right back to them at game's end.

You're right about the pretender quote Ravi. I obviously misinterpreted.it. Thanks.