Argofans

ARGO57 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 6:42 pm

kellynjk wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2024 2:10 pm While I completely agree that the behaviour of the "guest of a league employee" was awful and totally inappropriate, it was a guest, not an employee of the league, so I think a review of who is allowed on the field seems appropriate or what guidelines are in place to bring guests to game and what is expected of them etc. I think likely the best they can do is ban the guest from any future games and talk to the employee about it in the hopes that nothing like it happens again.

The guest of a league employee uttering racial slurs does in fact reflect poorly on the league employee who should be embarrassed.

bluto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:41 pm I have zero faith and confidence in the league's "due process". No transparency and shifting goalposts the entire way through this debacle. But what else would we expect from this current regime? They are making it up as they go.

To me the Kelly matter has felt like a point-and-shriek race to the moral high ground from the start.

Kelly, no saint, has paid a greater price than any other player in league history. A league which has had violent crime and drug offenders. The league Most Outstanding Player (stupidly) crossed some boundaries and hurt some feelings.

End this now, Randy.





And hand in your resignation while you're at it, you joke of a commissioner.

AngeloV wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:31 pm

bluto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:41 pm I have zero faith and confidence in the league's "due process". No transparency and shifting goalposts the entire way through this debacle. But what else would we expect from this current regime? They are making it up as they go.

To me the Kelly matter has felt like a point-and-shriek race to the moral high ground from the start.

Kelly, no saint, has paid a greater price than any other player in league history. A league which has had violent crime and drug offenders. The league Most Outstanding Player (stupidly) crossed some boundaries and hurt some feelings.

End this now, Randy.





And hand in your resignation while you're at it, you joke of a commissioner.

Agreed on all points but 1. Johnny Manziel paid a greater price, and talking about lack of transparency, we still have no idea why Randy kicked him out of the league.

AngeloV wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:31 pm

bluto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:41 pm I have zero faith and confidence in the league's "due process". No transparency and shifting goalposts the entire way through this debacle. But what else would we expect from this current regime? They are making it up as they go.

To me the Kelly matter has felt like a point-and-shriek race to the moral high ground from the start.

Kelly, no saint, has paid a greater price than any other player in league history. A league which has had violent crime and drug offenders. The league Most Outstanding Player (stupidly) crossed some boundaries and hurt some feelings.

End this now, Randy.





And hand in your resignation while you're at it, you joke of a commissioner.

Agreed on all points but 1. Johnny Manziel paid a greater price, and talking about lack of transparency, we still have no idea why Randy kicked him out of the league.

bluto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:33 pmManziel lost a $125k contract iirc.

Kelly is $300k lighter.

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:56 pm

bluto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:33 pmManziel lost a $125k contract iirc.

Kelly is $300k lighter.

The only way that would be true is if Kelly's entire contract was base salary, which it almost certainly is not. He likely received a large signing bonus and it has been reported he's getting (or already got) $100k in marketing money outside of base salary. The amount of money he has lost for missing nine game cheques is likely closer to $150k than $300k, I'd bet.

primetime321 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 8:50 pm

paulwoods13 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:56 pm

bluto wrote: ↑Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:33 pmManziel lost a $125k contract iirc.

Kelly is $300k lighter.

The only way that would be true is if Kelly's entire contract was base salary, which it almost certainly is not. He likely received a large signing bonus and it has been reported he's getting (or already got) $100k in marketing money outside of base salary. The amount of money he has lost for missing nine game cheques is likely closer to $150k than $300k, I'd bet.

I wonder if the team has realized the savings from Kelly's absence for cap purposes. Cos if so, then what were the cap concerns used when Rasheed Bailey was released?