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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    You seem to prefer Owusu Ansah.
    Are you new here ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Are you new here ?
    I was simply debating your point about Jim Popp in regards to the Heath signing;

    "I've lost a lot of respect for Jim Popp today. Popp signing Waters makes me wonder if Jim knows the difference between a sneeze and a wet fart.

    Not sure what to make of the Heath signing either. Heath makes a lot of plays, but gets beat a lot as well. Reminds me of Ansah actually, just a bit better."

    I'm not sure losing respect for a GM signing, arguably, the best Boundary Half in the game is fitting. And as you made the comparison to AK I illustrated my thoughts with some differences in their outputs in the CFL.

    There is an obvious difference in the two players.

    If I have misrepresented your thoughts in any way, I do humbly apologize. Just talkin football here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    I was simply debating your point about Jim Popp in regards to the Heath signing;

    "I've lost a lot of respect for Jim Popp today. Popp signing Waters makes me wonder if Jim knows the difference between a sneeze and a wet fart.

    Not sure what to make of the Heath signing either. Heath makes a lot of plays, but gets beat a lot as well. Reminds me of Ansah actually, just a bit better."

    I'm not sure losing respect for a GM signing, arguably, the best Boundary Half in the game is fitting. And as you made the comparison to AK I illustrated my thoughts with some differences in their outputs in the CFL.

    There is an obvious difference in the two players.

    If I have misrepresented your thoughts in any way, I do humbly apologize. Just talkin football here.
    You did misrepresented quite a bit, and somehow you combined what I said about Waters with what I said about Heath. I lost respect for Popp for the Waters signing, not the Heath signing. I'll leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    You did misrepresented quite a bit, and somehow you combined what I said about Waters with what I said about Heath. I lost respect for Popp for the Waters signing, not the Heath signing. I'll leave it at that.
    My error then. Maybe it was not you pushing the Heath is over-rated narrative after all. I've been kinda amazed by that angle on this board. I attribute it to the Drew Willy trade and considered it a rather biased theory. I still certainly believe that if you think that he's around the same level of player (or just a little better) than AK, then both you and I will be pretty happy with Heath and our Secondary in 2018.

    And I am not disparaging Akwasi Ansah; although it sounds like you may beg to differ, I still wouldn't mind seeing him and Darby go at it in TC for the spot on the corner opposite Ronnie Yell.

    My only lingering concern, including MLB and DE, is who will coach this Defense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon Gonzo View Post
    My error then. Maybe it was not you pushing the Heath is over-rated narrative after all. I've been kinda amazed by that angle on this board. I attribute it to the Drew Willy trade and considered it a rather biased theory. I still certainly believe that if you think that he's around the same level of player (or just a little better) than AK, then both you and I will be pretty happy with Heath and our Secondary in 2018.

    And I am not disparaging Akwasi Ansah; although it sounds like you may beg to differ, I still wouldn't mind seeing him and Darby go at it in TC for the spot on the corner opposite Ronnie Yell.

    My only lingering concern, including MLB and DE, is who will coach this Defense.
    I'll admit it. I think Heath is overrated. I hope he proves me wrong. His overall level of play is skewed by the number of picks he gets. I believe he had 4 picks in the fist 5 games last year, and only 1 the rest of the season. He was also part of a secondary that routinely gave up 400 passing yards last season. Never said he's terrible, but IMO, not nearly as good as many think he is. Obviously the Bombers felt the same way as it looks like he was not a priority re-signing on their part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'll admit it. I think Heath is overrated. I hope he proves me wrong. His overall level of play is skewed by the number of picks he gets. I believe he had 4 picks in the fist 5 games last year, and only 1 the rest of the season. He was also part of a secondary that routinely gave up 400 passing yards last season. Never said he's terrible, but IMO, not nearly as good as many think he is. Obviously the Bombers felt the same way as it looks like he was not a priority re-signing on their part.
    I agree that his interceptions skew perceptions of Heath. Bombers had one of the most porous pass defences in the league, although many contributed to that problem. He reminds of Byron Parker who set a record for most interceptions returned for TDs, but was not a great cover guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    I'll admit it. I think Heath is overrated. I hope he proves me wrong. His overall level of play is skewed by the number of picks he gets. I believe he had 4 picks in the fist 5 games last year, and only 1 the rest of the season. He was also part of a secondary that routinely gave up 400 passing yards last season. Never said he's terrible, but IMO, not nearly as good as many think he is. Obviously the Bombers felt the same way as it looks like he was not a priority re-signing on their part.
    Agreed on all points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.J View Post
    Agreed on all points.
    This has to stop.

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