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    Quote Originally Posted by paulwoods13 View Post
    This won't be popular with some forum members, but has anyone considered the possibility Ricky Ray might continue to play at a high level for three or four more years, a la Calvillo? I personally think that is possible if not probable.

    Hope he surprises us, but I do not see this at all.
    Especially with the two serious injuries the past two seasons including the shoulder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argotom View Post
    Hope he surprises us, but I do not see this at all.
    Especially with the two serious injuries the past two seasons including the shoulder.
    That is the same number of serious injuries that Collaros has had over the past two seasons, interestingly enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    That is the same number of serious injuries that Collaros has had over the past two seasons, interestingly enough.
    Collaros suffered a serious concussion, which he missed numerous games in 2014 and also had season ending knee surgery last year. Realistically, one more unlucky hit to the head or knee could end his career.

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    Collaros is clearly injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    Collaros suffered a serious concussion, which he missed numerous games in 2014 and also had season ending knee surgery last year. Realistically, one more unlucky hit to the head or knee could end his career.
    Same could be said for many other CFL QB's (Durant, Ray, Reilly, Lulay, Collaros, Willy, Nichols) etc, football is a tough business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Argo57 View Post
    Same could be said for many other CFL QB's (Durant, Ray, Reilly, Lulay, Collaros, Willy, Nichols) etc, football is a tough business.
    It sure is. True, at any given moment a QB can go down for the worse. What is concerning about Collaros, is that at age 27, both his injuries (concussion and ACL), have very high recurrence rates and are the most common career ending injuries. I believe one study found that athletes were nearly twice as likely to suffer a serious knee, ankle or lower limb injury, up to a year after a concussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoZ View Post
    It sure is. True, at any given moment a QB can go down for the worse. What is concerning about Collaros, is that at age 27, both his injuries (concussion and ACL), have very high recurrence rates and are the most common career ending injuries. I believe one study found that athletes were nearly twice as likely to suffer a serious knee, ankle or lower limb injury, up to a year after a concussion.
    Well if Collaros has another bad season he'll be available at a bargain price to back up Cody Fajardo in 2017.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Well if Collaros has another bad season he'll be available at a bargain price to back up Cody Fajardo in 2017.

    This guy Fajardo is sure a superstar in waiting; can\t wait to see him rip up the CFL when he finally gets a chance to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    This guy Fajardo is sure a superstar in waiting; can\t wait to see him rip up the CFL when he finally gets a chance to play.
    Well, he's no Blake Sims, that's for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Well if Collaros has another bad season he'll be available at a bargain price to back up Cody Fajardo in 2017.
    Collaros hasn't had a bad season as of yet, unless of course you mean injuries = bad.
    Am I missing something ? When did Fajardo become the second coming of Adonis....... I mean Trevor Harris ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowRogue View Post
    Collaros hasn't had a bad season as of yet, unless of course you mean injuries = bad.
    Am I missing something ? When did Fajardo become the second coming of Adonis....... I mean Trevor Harris ?
    Did I say Fajardo? I meant Kilgore. :-)


    Point is, if Milanovich does anything well, it is developing young QB's quickly, and I fully expect that to continue this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Well, he's no Blake Sims, that's for sure.
    Too bad there is basically ever zero enthusiasm for a young, college ball star Canadian QB who might be able to make an impact in the CFL. All sorts of fans would be pulling for a Kilgore or Fajardo type (and I hope they can become great Argo QBs too - or at least near as good as a couple of recent ones in Collaros & Harris) - citing their college ball resumes and QB attributes; yet most probably couldn't even name a top young Canadian QB? - either that or I guess they just write them off ? - you know, just like a *** would do. ;o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rich View Post
    Did I say Fajardo? I meant Kilgore. :-)


    Point is, if Milanovich does anything well, it is developing young QB's quickly, and I fully expect that to continue this season.
    While I don't know if either of them will pan out; I'm just hoping one of them does. Wouldn't mind seeing Baker Mayfield in double blue either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    This guy Fajardo is sure a superstar in waiting; can\t wait to see him rip up the CFL when he finally gets a chance to play.
    LOL! I don't know anything about this Fajardo character either but am now expecting huge things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    Too bad there is basically ever zero enthusiasm for a young, college ball star Canadian QB who might be able to make an impact in the CFL. All sorts of fans would be pulling for a Kilgore or Fajardo type (and I hope they can become great Argo QBs too - or at least near as good as a couple of recent ones in Collaros & Harris) - citing their college ball resumes and QB attributes; yet most probably couldn't even name a top young Canadian QB? - either that or I guess they just write them off ? - you know, just like a *** would do. ;o)
    Didn't help that arguably the best Canadian QB prospect of the last decade decided to quit on the eve of training camp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoGabe22 View Post
    ZC tweeted he loves Hamilton this past week or something similar. So if he signs with Toronto, he can still hang out on King Street.

    IMO the only way Zach walks if he and his agent think he's worth so much more (highest paid QB) than Hamilton can afford and he tests the market. Hamilton shouldn't have much cap space left with the signing of Laurent. They will need to make room for his salary after this season so it'll be interesting to see what moves they make. I'm skeptical they'll re-sign ZC during the season as he may want another shot at the NFL.
    Funny thing... last season after one of the Argos home games, my son and I were walking back to Union Station, and who do we see walking down Front Street, but Zach Collaros and a buddy with a couple of female friends. So he may say he loves Hamilton, but he parties in Toronto!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    Didn't help that arguably the best Canadian QB prospect of the last decade decided to quit on the eve of training camp.

    ??? - who was this guy that had all sorts of CFL fans lauding his college ball skills and anticipating him getting to play in the CFL ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OV Argo View Post
    ??? - who was this guy that had all sorts of CFL fans lauding his college ball skills and anticipating him getting to play in the CFL ?
    I can only speak for me, but I liked his chances of making an impact at the pro level. Guess you didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by argolio View Post
    I can only speak for me, but I liked his chances of making an impact at the pro level. Guess you didn't.
    Who ???

    You referring to Quinlan maybe? - he "quit" the Als.

    Have to agree he is one of the most talented CIS QBs in some time.

    But as far as expectations for the CFL - the guy wasn't drafted AT ALL by any CFL team - and after winning a national title in putting up outstanding QB stats. Then he went to the Als TC (part of that CFL little achievers or whatever they call if for Canadian QBs?) where he reported he was "segregated" from the other QBs in camp - i.e. not competing for a spot like the other QBs in camp; then, the next season he thinks he is in their QB plans (Poop says so in the media) but they convieniently forget to invite him to their mini camp for young players at the start of the year ??? So, maybe he can read some writing on the wall there and he quits ?

    Anyways, maybe you were blowing his horn as a very good CFL QB prospect - like some fans will do - some here hoping Kilgore or Fajardo become good Argo QBs and cite their college ball play and mention their name often. I don't recall hardly anybody doing so for Quinlan with the Als though, but maybe there was some of that. I could name one CFL discussion site where you'd probably get mocked or laughed-off the board in ridicule if you had repeatedly said that guy was an excellent CFL QB prospect that you anticipated seeing play in the CFL soon. ;o)

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