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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Yeah but MLSE doesn't own the stadium. They only manage it. If the city of Toronto were to tell them they had no choice but to let the Argos in, I don't think there is anything they can do to stop it. Who knows, if MLSE balked, maybe their agreement can be voided and maybe the Argos can take over managing the place.
    I know MLSE does not own BMO field, but they have invested a lot of $$ in the venue. MLSE boss Tim Liewecki (sp) hqs hinted they will improve the TFC fan experience, which indicates to me more cash will be invested. They will have a huge say in who can play in BMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilthethrill View Post
    I know MLSE does not own BMO field, but they have invested a lot of $$ in the venue. MLSE boss Tim Liewecki (sp) hqs hinted they will improve the TFC fan experience, which indicates to me more cash will be invested. They will have a huge say in who can play in BMO.
    Yeah I know...but it would be interesting to see what would happen if the city told them they want the Argos in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Yeah I know...but it would be interesting to see what would happen if the city told them they want the Argos in there.
    Agreed, I would love to have the opportunity to observe those meetings if and when they take place.

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    Unfortunately, it's been MLSE calling all the shots with the city bending over backwards for them...very akin to the tail wagging the dog. If the city had the balls to tell MLSE how the stadium got built...then that oversight of the concrete wall being built and the field of play being not being large enough for Canadian Football would have been addressed.

    The Argos need a stadium to generate other forms of revenue from parking and concession sales...if they don't get that at BMO, then is their really a difference between that and skydome. For the amount of renovation that they may be expected to pay for, maybe they should partner with Football Canada, Football Ontario and the CIS, or with other football and sport organizations and build their own stadium that they can control.

    I can't see BMO being any more advantageous, for other than better dates, than the Dome, unless they are made EQUAL partners in running the stadium. I don't know if MLSE would want that...what do you think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Yeah but MLSE doesn't own the stadium. They only manage it. If the city of Toronto were to tell them they had no choice but to let the Argos in, I don't think there is anything they can do to stop it. Who knows, if MLSE balked, maybe their agreement can be voided and maybe the Argos can take over managing the place.
    Thanks for the laugh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron View Post
    Thanks for the laugh!

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    Never been to the stadium but it looks cheap as hell sort of like the Temp Grey Cup endzone seats. Not sure I'd want to go if the Argos played there.

    Screw all the BS, The Toronto Argonauts need their own stadium!!!

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    I want a roof.

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    I find it interesting that when Some Argo fans on here comment about the bias of the T.O media towards the team, we are told that we are to sensitive. Now you have a media member incouraging TFC fans to let MLSE know their feelings about not have the Argos play at the city owned stadium. What happen to neutral bias as a member of the member. One thing to write a story saying the Argos will hurt soccer playing at BMO, it quite another to solicit and start a protest by TFC fans on Twitter by a media member

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    Never been to the stadium but it looks cheap as hell sort of like the Temp Grey Cup endzone seats. Not sure I'd want to go if the Argos played there.

    Screw all the BS, The Toronto Argonauts need their own stadium!!!
    You're lucky enough to have not had to live with out a football team, TFC fans are not. Most of us were happy to just have a team and that cheap as hell Meccano set stadium was a bonus. The early off field success of the team was credited in part to BMO Field. There's a reason TFC fans are protective of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    Never been to the stadium but it looks cheap as hell sort of like the Temp Grey Cup endzone seats. Not sure I'd want to go if the Argos played there.

    Screw all the BS, The Toronto Argonauts need their own stadium!!!
    I was there once. You describe it perfectly! it literally seems like one of those temp stadiums.

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    I remember when The Argos, Toronto Blizzard and Jays all shared CNE stadium. No BS drummed up by media back then. TO media just likes to stir the shite and a certain fraction jump all over and into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1argoholic View Post
    I remember when The Argos, Toronto Blizzard and Jays all shared CNE stadium. No BS drummed up by media back then. TO media just likes to stir the shite and a certain fraction jump all over and into it.
    As I recall, all three teams drew fairly well sharing that stadium too, 1argoholic. Unfortunately, times changed in Toronto.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LLB997 View Post
    I was there once. You describe it perfectly! it literally seems like one of those temp stadiums.
    60 mil for a 21K stadium ... what else do you expect.

    Argos will still be better off building their own 25K stadium with boxes and control the revenue.

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    Oh, the excitement when SkyDome first opened: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...81/1/index.htm

    Reading this article, it seems as though this stadium was built with baseball in mind first and foremost.
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    I kinda like the new place they have in Winnipeg, they have a roof above all the stands but not the field. I could live with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Oh, the excitement when SkyDome first opened: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...81/1/index.htm

    Reading this article, it seems as though this stadium was built with baseball in mind first and foremost.
    Or an American source that is more likely to focus on MLB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArgoRavi View Post
    Oh, the excitement when SkyDome first opened: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...81/1/index.htm

    Reading this article, it seems as though this stadium was built with baseball in mind first and foremost.
    You do not have to do that, just going to the Argo games as I have for many years at the dome and it is crystal clear how the place was never built with football in mind. A poor design in fact to watch any sporting event, but especially the CFL variety.

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    Heck, the place isn't even great for baseball. It's the last of the multi-purpose cookie cutters that got built. Camden Yards made it obsolete as a baseball stadium three years later even if attendance was still through the roof for a few years after that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeloV View Post
    Yeah I know...but it would be interesting to see what would happen if the city told them they want the Argos in there.
    It's an iron clad contract, I forget for how many years involving management and with first rights for usage by MLSE. What makes you think now all of a sudden and especially since MLSE, City of Toronto and Soccer Canada are sleeping in the same bed, that this would change?

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